Mini Electric ordered

[gangzoom]

ZesPak said:

1. from that comment I gather you've never configured an Asian car vs a German one
2. the hyundai has similar performance but TWICE the range
3. the hyundai is actually an entire class bigger, much closer to the Clubman than the MINI
4. the kona has been generally well received, the mini hasn't gotten any reviews out

I've owned 6 Nissan's, two Honda's in my time, so I know Asian cars well .

The Kona is expensive because of the battery, which most people simply don't need.

[SWoll]

gangzoom said:

ZesPak said:

1. from that comment I gather you've never configured an Asian car vs a German one
2. the hyundai has similar performance but TWICE the range
3. the hyundai is actually an entire class bigger, much closer to the Clubman than the MINI
4. the kona has been generally well received, the mini hasn't gotten any reviews out

I've owned 6 Nissan's, two Honda's in my time, so I know Asian cars well .

The Kona is expensive because of the battery, which most people simply don't need.

Especially if you look at the ownership demographic I'm sure. I wonder what % of sales go to over 60's who rarely go further than 20 miles from home?

I'm surprised at the cost TBH, having had a look at one it makes the Model 3 SR+ seem an absolute bargain.

[granada203028]

gangzoom said:

Nothing stopping you buying a Hyundai Kona EV for £35k, paying £10k more for a Hyundai compared to a Mini, not sure I would.

We actually bought a 60kWh Model X, there was a 100kWh version but based on our usage it was an extra £16k for range we would rarely use, 40k miles later I still wouldn't pay £16k for the bigger battery version, there are better ways to waste £16k.

Every one wants more range, and you can have it if you want to pay for it, but for most people your paying for something your rarely use.

Again, £35k Hyundai Kona EV versus £24k Mini EV, there is only one overpriced car in that pair and for once its not the Mini!

Edited by gangzoom on Sunday 13th October 21:53

Yes not the Kona but the eNiro certainly top of my potential shopping list. Still want 60kWh odd then.

Mixed comments on here about BMW reliability experience, presumably Mini expected to be similar. Like the sound of Kia's 7 year warrantee. Would have covered the AC pump failure the Leaf has had £1100. The £15 ball joint was cheap but bd to change.

Yes hands up I have already wasted money on Lithium ion batteries, 7.5kWh pack for by electric motorcycle conversion, 4kWh for my man carrying multi rotor.... Just because we can doesn't mean we should....

[MrOrange]

I’ve just cancelled my order due to the pricing. Stuck £500 down on a pre-order a few months back as it seemed a sweet spot; priced from £25k and added MINI coolness.

But £4k deposit and £400 a month for 47 months comes out at close to £23k to rent a 100-130 mile EV (it kinda needs a sunroof to brighten up the funeral interior). Way over priced - 75% of RRP and works out at £475 a month. I suspect MINI have little faith in the residuals and are happy to gouge early adopters.

Sorry to bring the mood down, but an EV Golf is close half that and has another 40-60 miles range. Sorry, folks, but an EV with a winter range of 100 miles and close to £500 a month is out of kilter IMHO, despite the cheap per-mile cost.

[SWoll]

MrOrange said:

I’ve just cancelled my order due to the pricing. Stuck £500 down on a pre-order a few months back as it seemed a sweet spot; priced from £25k and added MINI coolness.

But £4k deposit and £400 a month for 47 months comes out at close to £23k to rent a 100-130 mile EV (it kinda needs a sunroof to brighten up the funeral interior). Way over priced - 75% of RRP and works out at £475 a month. I suspect MINI have little faith in the residuals and are happy to gouge early adopters.

Sorry to bring the mood down, but an EV Golf is close half that and has another 40-60 miles range. Sorry, folks, but an EV with a winter range of 100 miles and close to £500 a month is out of kilter IMHO, despite the cheap per-mile cost.

£475 a month?

A fully loaded Cooper S II can be had for half that over the same term. https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/zenauto-li...

It's also more expensive than a Model 3 SR+

[cc3]

MrOrange said:

I’ve just cancelled my order due to the pricing. Stuck £500 down on a pre-order a few months back as it seemed a sweet spot; priced from £25k and added MINI coolness.

But £4k deposit and £400 a month for 47 months comes out at close to £23k to rent a 100-130 mile EV (it kinda needs a sunroof to brighten up the funeral interior). Way over priced - 75% of RRP and works out at £475 a month. I suspect MINI have little faith in the residuals and are happy to gouge early adopters.

Sorry to bring the mood down, but an EV Golf is close half that and has another 40-60 miles range. Sorry, folks, but an EV with a winter range of 100 miles and close to £500 a month is out of kilter IMHO, despite the cheap per-mile cost.

Base car is £299 pm. Electric residuals are coming out better than predicted. I’m paying cash will be a second car. Does everything I need it to do. Can’t think the last time I did 100 miles in a second vehicle so range no issue

[MrOrange]

cc3 said:

Base car is £299 pm.

Base car is very basic.

And at £299 per month plus a £4k deposit on a 48 month contract hire package the real cost is £375 per month, for a basic car with no parking sensors.

Thats £18k in hire fees, or 75% of the purchase cost. So that knocks the 4 year contract purchase deal (really? who wants a 4 year CH anyway). So onwards to look at a PCP deal, this time over 3 years so should be easy to compare against other contemporary deals and here are those numbers

MINI III

Deposit: £7,500
Monthlies: £345 x 35
Total Payable; £19,575

So that’s now £544 per month. For a MINI.

The GFV is £14k. APR is 5.9%. 10k miles pa. No finance or dealer contribution.

Edited by MrOrange on Monday 14th October 12:09

[ZesPak]

gangzoom said:

I've owned 6 Nissan's, two Honda's in my time, so I know Asian cars well .

The Kona is expensive because of the battery, which most people simply don't need.

The fact that the MINI has 4 starting trim levels should tell you all you need to know about why it's that cheap.

I know people don't need rear parking sensors, anything but cloth seats or a screen bigger than a smartphone, but they're nice to have.
I'm pretty sure that like for like, even ignoring the Kona is much bigger, it's not that much more expensive.

[cc3]

ZesPak said:

The fact that the MINI has 4 starting trim levels should tell you all you need to know about why it's that cheap.

I know people don't need rear parking sensors, anything but cloth seats or a screen bigger than a smartphone, but they're nice to have.
I'm pretty sure that like for like, even ignoring the Kona is much bigger, it's not that much more expensive.

Looked at the Kona but didn’t need such a large vehicle. Mini meets our needs understand from our dealer plenty of orders firming up into actual sales. Would be a boring world if everyone liked the same vehicle. I also like buying British