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SWoll said:
REALIST123 said:
9-12 months.
Not really a problem for us, I don’t get particularly excited about new cars these days and our SLK has only done 27K. It’ll be about 6 if it takes 12 months for the Niro, so a reasonable age at which to change it.
It's a Korean crossover SUV costing best part of £35k. Your lack of excitement does you credit sir. Not really a problem for us, I don’t get particularly excited about new cars these days and our SLK has only done 27K. It’ll be about 6 if it takes 12 months for the Niro, so a reasonable age at which to change it.
Edited to add:
It’s for my wife anyway.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 6th November 11:04
Well, having put down a deposit last week we went for another, all too short, test drive.
For me the car’s OK. Quick enough, handles OK, though some odd messages through the wheel in eco and with ‘lane assist’ on. Much nicer with that off and in normal mode.
Sound system seems very good, satnav and other tech works fast and accurately. ( should be upgraded next year too)
Only issue is my wife felt the ride was a bit ‘bouncy’ and she felt a little nauseous as a passenger, though could be because she was adjusting the SatNav/media/phone etc. I think she feels it’s a step down from her Merc too.
So jury’s out really. For me it’s an OK second car but she’s not convinced. Could go either way.
Dealer’s trying to arrange a 24 hour test which could help us decide. Time will tell.
For me the car’s OK. Quick enough, handles OK, though some odd messages through the wheel in eco and with ‘lane assist’ on. Much nicer with that off and in normal mode.
Sound system seems very good, satnav and other tech works fast and accurately. ( should be upgraded next year too)
Only issue is my wife felt the ride was a bit ‘bouncy’ and she felt a little nauseous as a passenger, though could be because she was adjusting the SatNav/media/phone etc. I think she feels it’s a step down from her Merc too.
So jury’s out really. For me it’s an OK second car but she’s not convinced. Could go either way.
Dealer’s trying to arrange a 24 hour test which could help us decide. Time will tell.
REALIST123 said:
I think she feels it’s a step down from her Merc too.
Your trying to convince your other half to swap a Merc for a Kia, brave man!!When I half joked about swapping the Lexus for a Kona the response was simple - She would take the keys to the Tesla......Needless to say I'm not going that route, even if the Kona did 500 miles on a single charge I'm not interested.
We have a merc and the E-Niro. My wife now flatly refuses to drive the merc, and I also take the E-Niro where I can.The radar cruise/lane following are incredibly effective at reducing effort on long journeys, the car is quiet and smooth, and some of the more minor things like CarPlay have turned out to be much more useful than I expected.
We spent a lot of time looking at all three models of Tesla, but for the CarPlay alone I’m really glad I didn’t go that route.
We spent a lot of time looking at all three models of Tesla, but for the CarPlay alone I’m really glad I didn’t go that route.
I was pleasantly surprised by the e-Niro, the GF and I test drove the Leaf and the Kia over the weekend and by far preferred the Niro, so much so that we are going to place a deposit down soon and join that que... I love Tesla but cannot justify the extra cost for a Model X when the Niro does it so well for less than half the money! I also have to say I really like the look of it in that metallic Ocean Blue colour.
I am incredibly impressed by the refinement that a BEV provides, ease of driving in traffic, cabin pre heating, low running costs, reliability, throttle response etc... I have literally never been this excited about getting a car
I am incredibly impressed by the refinement that a BEV provides, ease of driving in traffic, cabin pre heating, low running costs, reliability, throttle response etc... I have literally never been this excited about getting a car
Mudgey said:
I was pleasantly surprised by the e-Niro, the GF and I test drove the Leaf and the Kia over the weekend and by far preferred the Niro, so much so that we are going to place a deposit down soon and join that que... I love Tesla but cannot justify the extra cost for a Model X when the Niro does it so well for less than half the money! I also have to say I really like the look of it in that metallic Ocean Blue colour.
I am incredibly impressed by the refinement that a BEV provides, ease of driving in traffic, cabin pre heating, low running costs, reliability, throttle response etc... I have literally never been this excited about getting a car
Is it available in Ocean Blue? We were told Black, Grey, White, Silver. Or Gravity Blue.I am incredibly impressed by the refinement that a BEV provides, ease of driving in traffic, cabin pre heating, low running costs, reliability, throttle response etc... I have literally never been this excited about getting a car
We’ve gone for the Gravity Blue with our reservation. Would have preferred a lighter blue or red but they’re not available.
Mudgey said:
Ah damn, I read blue was available but didn’t realise there were 2 different blues!
I think that’s the case. The e-Niro comes in a smaller range of colours than other Niros and from what I can tell only gets black leather interior, where the others have a choice. Not sure why, maybe built at a separate facility?
We had the car all day today. It’s still with us, going back tomorrow.
We did about 100 miles, rural and city ring road stuff. Range went down from 208 to 127. Seems to indicate about 250 maximum. Not too bad at 7c?
I think we’ll keep the order in place. It does everything we need it for, it’s quite well equipped and fast enough as well as being practical. I can see it being used for most of our local stuff.
Our only quibble is a slightly odd ride over bumpy roads. It soaks up the bumps fine and rides quietly but takes a second to settle which is a bit odd but nothing serious. The headlights aren’t very impressive but this year’s car has LEDs so should be better.
We both got used to the 1 pedal thing pretty quickly, it soon becomes intuitive.
Car seems very well built, decent materials and finished very well. The dealer has been a refreshing change, pleasant, helpful and cooperative.
Price has been confirmed at a couple of hundred quid less than I was quoted, £34k odd, delivery around July.
We did about 100 miles, rural and city ring road stuff. Range went down from 208 to 127. Seems to indicate about 250 maximum. Not too bad at 7c?
I think we’ll keep the order in place. It does everything we need it for, it’s quite well equipped and fast enough as well as being practical. I can see it being used for most of our local stuff.
Our only quibble is a slightly odd ride over bumpy roads. It soaks up the bumps fine and rides quietly but takes a second to settle which is a bit odd but nothing serious. The headlights aren’t very impressive but this year’s car has LEDs so should be better.
We both got used to the 1 pedal thing pretty quickly, it soon becomes intuitive.
Car seems very well built, decent materials and finished very well. The dealer has been a refreshing change, pleasant, helpful and cooperative.
Price has been confirmed at a couple of hundred quid less than I was quoted, £34k odd, delivery around July.
The E-Niro does very well in the recent Carwow test against other EVs.
Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
Sambucket said:
How is the waiting list doing? Was told easter 2020, when I tried (and failed) to get a test drive in the Autumn.
Odd there are used cars on autotrader but it's apparently hard to buy a new one.
When we placed our order early November we were told about 9 months. I was told today that dealers are now quoting 6/8 months and that our car could be here in June. Odd there are used cars on autotrader but it's apparently hard to buy a new one.
Kia have made a commitment to clear all orders to the end of 2019 by August. Also to have 1 in 3 cars sold as EVs by 2023, and a fully autonomous car by then too........... time will tell.
I was also told this morning that they have a steady stream of orders for new and enquiries for used. The demo I had, an August 19 car, has done 12.5k but they’re hanging on to it.
We’re not concerned about the lead time, but can imagine that could be important to some who are on fixed term leases etc.
M1C said:
The E-Niro does very well in the recent Carwow test against other EVs.
Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
Agreed, this is the fist time I have seen a reasonably priced EV that I have thought I could easily live with day to day. After the first generation Zoe and Leaf that struggled to do even 100 miles in a charge things really seem to have moved on in the last year.Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
Joey Deacon said:
M1C said:
The E-Niro does very well in the recent Carwow test against other EVs.
Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
Agreed, this is the fist time I have seen a reasonably priced EV that I have thought I could easily live with day to day. After the first generation Zoe and Leaf that struggled to do even 100 miles in a charge things really seem to have moved on in the last year.Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
The only real issue with it is that it’s costly. We could get the same thing with a small petrol engine for over £10k less, more than we’d spend on tax and fuel in maybe 10 years. Servicing is maybe £40 a year less.
We’re not put off by that but many will be.
Joey Deacon said:
M1C said:
The E-Niro does very well in the recent Carwow test against other EVs.
Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
Agreed, this is the fist time I have seen a reasonably priced EV that I have thought I could easily live with day to day. After the first generation Zoe and Leaf that struggled to do even 100 miles in a charge things really seem to have moved on in the last year.Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
I assume your Generation X father told you about him ?
M1C said:
The E-Niro does very well in the recent Carwow test against other EVs.
Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
It does seem a nice car. I wonder how that cheap Chinese MG EV car would have done? Really, it was the true winner of the test in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH7V2tU3iFc
I have to say this made me puzzle.... 35p per KWH? I don't run an electric car so it is nearly as unfathomable as liters per 100 km, but for that Tesla to do 270 miles back again it would need 75 * 0.35p or £26. That's about 10p per mile.
Comparing to my diesel 1.4D Yaris at the legal limit on a motorway it does 65+mpg and has a fuel tank of 9.2 gallons, which is a 600 mile range; It would have got me there and back for 6 * 9.2 or £55. I'd be down the bingo hall flirting with all the blue hair rinsed ladies whilst the Tesla driver was putting a Tiger in the tank rather than me with the two fat ladies....
You can say, well you get KWH a lot cheaper at home but then I can counter with the fact that once the Yaris got fueled up at home you don't have to actually worry about going all the way to Newcastle and getting stuck ( Infinity Electric charging and beyond) you just go there, sing something about a little fishy on a little dishy and then come home. You can even do that without the Matrix to advise where to stop off. Because you don't need to.
And it's a rather sad that when they ran out of juice they had to call on the emergency services or a pub landlord. Rather than just have a Jerry can or two in the back for another 100 miles.
I'm off to my Range Anxiety classes now ... breathe ....
RobDickinson said:
Its unusual to use public chargers. Paying that much is an exception not the rule.
BTW the tesla would pay 24p per kwh at a supercharger and you only bother charging enough to get home rather than fill it to 100%
Good point Rob, it does seem that whilst the infrastructure matures people / vultures will get their joule of flesh.BTW the tesla would pay 24p per kwh at a supercharger and you only bother charging enough to get home rather than fill it to 100%
As an aside, how do you find that down in NZ? I guess it might be even more crazy? You need to do a post on here about your experiences !
I was about to go on the financial thread but got distracted .... I'll be there in a mo... it's gone PLAID !
Gandahar said:
Good point Rob, it does seem that whilst the infrastructure matures people / vultures will get their joule of flesh.
As an aside, how do you find that down in NZ? I guess it might be even more crazy? You need to do a post on here about your experiences !
I was about to go on the financial thread but got distracted .... I'll be there in a mo... it's gone PLAID !
Fast chargers are expensive to install and run and you are selling something cheap and limited, not the best business proposition for now but it will improve over time.As an aside, how do you find that down in NZ? I guess it might be even more crazy? You need to do a post on here about your experiences !
I was about to go on the financial thread but got distracted .... I'll be there in a mo... it's gone PLAID !
NZ has a decent 50kw network and a handful of superchargers. I've not yet needed to use any of them.
Cost wise its 42c at superchargers and 25c at most of the others. I pay 22c average at home.
Not yet even installed the 11kw home charger (free with NZ tesla), just using 8 amp plug socket works fine.
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