I-Pace owner experience?
Discussion
From my perspective I'm looking for cost effective white goods transport. If its comfy/fun/interesting then all the better. If it reduces my environmental impact then great. The BIK and good lease deals means it has to be electric if going this route. The NHS lease scheme seems to not have Tesla as an option currently.
Something fun in the garage for the weekends is then the plan. I still really miss my M3, but using it to commute was crap.
Euro 5 diesel is going to get banned from cities soon enough. The iPace deal would have cost almost the same as my yearly running costs for the XC60 and as such made a lot of fiscal sense. At £450 the e-tron is slightly harder to justify but is still only around £200/month more than I'd project the Volvo costs at. All it takes is one reasonably big bill and that gap narrows a lot.
The delay on my part was part boot space concern and partly assessing the impact on my pension and annual allowance charges (you may or may not have seen the furore in the medical world about the changes to the AA and its impact, once you're in the lease scheme coming out can generate some eyewatering bills).
Still pondering. If I get a cancelled I-Pace offer then I'm jumping on it. E-Tron hmmm.....
Something fun in the garage for the weekends is then the plan. I still really miss my M3, but using it to commute was crap.
Euro 5 diesel is going to get banned from cities soon enough. The iPace deal would have cost almost the same as my yearly running costs for the XC60 and as such made a lot of fiscal sense. At £450 the e-tron is slightly harder to justify but is still only around £200/month more than I'd project the Volvo costs at. All it takes is one reasonably big bill and that gap narrows a lot.
The delay on my part was part boot space concern and partly assessing the impact on my pension and annual allowance charges (you may or may not have seen the furore in the medical world about the changes to the AA and its impact, once you're in the lease scheme coming out can generate some eyewatering bills).
Still pondering. If I get a cancelled I-Pace offer then I'm jumping on it. E-Tron hmmm.....
ZesPak said:
I understand the ipace to a degree, if you really don't gel with a Tesla.
But the etron is beyond me. I can only imagine "I had an audi and I wanted another Audi" as argument.
If you factor in price, the other alternatives can make a lot of sense.But the etron is beyond me. I can only imagine "I had an audi and I wanted another Audi" as argument.
For example, the OP is saying he can get an e-tron for £450/month.
I've not checked the recent Model X lease prices but I would guess they would be in the region of double that price.
gangzoom said:
If you are truly looking for cheap A to B transport have you looked at the MG ZS EV?
Too small I think. Not great NCAP ratings either. Plus, if I'm honest, decision is never going to be 100% accountant like! I like my cars too much to be completely blind to what I'm buying.ZesPak said:
I understand the ipace to a degree, if you really don't gel with a Tesla.
But the etron is beyond me. I can only imagine "I had an audi and I wanted another Audi" as argument.
Etron is significantly cheaper to lease than an I pace . Big enough for the dogs . Only other Audi I’ve had is an rs2 , and this big electric bus will be about as quick But the etron is beyond me. I can only imagine "I had an audi and I wanted another Audi" as argument.
ds666 said:
Etron is significantly cheaper to lease than an I pace . Big enough for the dogs . Only other Audi I’ve had is an rs2 , and this big electric bus will be about as quick
It's a lovely thing - looks great, super high quality interior, feels really premium. The efficiency is abysmal though.gangzoom said:
I know how to hypermile fine, when the conditions are right, and you don't have a time pressure I can beat EPA ratings.
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But when something called the British weather, rain, wind, cold, and you have to get some where on time range will plummet regardless which EV your in.
Anyone saying anything else clearly are just 'fair weather' EV owners
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Can you switch between wh/mile and mile/wh? That would be useful for comparisons. I prefer wh/mile anyway but the Leaf is mile/wh.[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/1783/41088731130_8087d98321_c_d.jpg[/thumb]
But when something called the British weather, rain, wind, cold, and you have to get some where on time range will plummet regardless which EV your in.
Anyone saying anything else clearly are just 'fair weather' EV owners
.Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 23 November 13:18
kuro68k said:
Can you switch between wh/mile and mile/wh? That would be useful for comparisons. I prefer wh/mile anyway but the Leaf is mile/wh.
It's a bit odd there isn't a standard metric. It's easy enough roughly convert, but odd it hasn't settled one way or the other.200 5.0
250 4.0
300 3.3
350 2.9
400 2.5
Sambucket said:
kuro68k said:
Can you switch between wh/mile and mile/wh? That would be useful for comparisons. I prefer wh/mile anyway but the Leaf is mile/wh.
It's a bit odd there isn't a standard metric. It's easy enough roughly convert, but odd it hasn't settled one way or the other.200 5.0
250 4.0
300 3.3
350 2.9
400 2.5
Now over 5K miles in (& loving the car!): we typically got over 4 in warmer summer conditions, but now it has dropped to around 3.6 (generally on a 80-mile round trip at speeds around 70-75).
A reasonable winter range over 200 miles, which matches what other owners have said on forums - pretty happy with that. Nice to have the scheduled pre-heating (although no app until next year's model, as well as heated seats & steering wheel....
If we floor it a bit, as I found last weekend, it can plummet to 2.6.....I think if I could ease my right foot more, we would do a lot better!
I am sure the I Pace would feel more luxurious, as would the eTron, but they are priced to. Like the look of the Volvo & Polestar coming next year.
To the OP....take your suitcases along on your next check of a car!!
mikeiow said:
Having got our first EV, a 64kW Kona, in June, I've struggled with this a bit....I prefer to think of "miles per kW".
There are advantages and disadvantages to both.MPkWh is not linear. Going from 2 to 3 MPkWh saves a lot more energy than going form 4 to 5 MPkWh. On the other hand it does make it easier to calculate in your head how far you can drive (multiplication is easier than division), although most cars have a GOM anyway.
Wh/km is linear. Going form 100 to 200 Wh/100km has the same energy saving as going from 300 to 400 Wh/km. The down side is that to calculate range you have to divide your remaining energy by this figure, or again just use the GOM.
Wh/km is definitely more useful when comparing cars. A 200 Wh/km car uses half as much energy as a 400 Wh/km car, i.e. the range for a given battery size is double.
kuro68k said:
mikeiow said:
Having got our first EV, a 64kW Kona, in June, I've struggled with this a bit....I prefer to think of "miles per kW".
There are advantages and disadvantages to both.MPkWh is not linear. Going from 2 to 3 MPkWh saves a lot more energy than going form 4 to 5 MPkWh. On the other hand it does make it easier to calculate in your head how far you can drive (multiplication is easier than division), although most cars have a GOM anyway.
Wh/km is linear. Going form 100 to 200 Wh/100km has the same energy saving as going from 300 to 400 Wh/km. The down side is that to calculate range you have to divide your remaining energy by this figure, or again just use the GOM.
Wh/km is definitely more useful when comparing cars. A 200 Wh/km car uses half as much energy as a 400 Wh/km car, i.e. the range for a given battery size is double.
It’s just what you become familiar with, neither is objectively better or worse.
"Our" man Dan showing a few other drivers how a modern performance EV goes at the 'ring:
https://twitter.com/trent_dan/status/1198675304937...
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https://twitter.com/trent_dan/status/1198675304937...
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Max_Torque said:
"Our" man Dan showing a few other drivers how a modern performance EV goes at the 'ring:
https://twitter.com/trent_dan/status/1198675304937...
;-)
Do they have supercharger there yet? Could be a laugh..https://twitter.com/trent_dan/status/1198675304937...
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