Tesla and Uber Unlikely to Survive (Vol. 2)
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coetzeeh said:
Am I mistaken or does that bring it exactly in line with the Polestar?coetzeeh said:
So the Model 3 with the hatchback is significantly more expensive than the Model 3.Where do I sign?
coetzeeh said:
Interested to understand the reasoning behind that. Where does that leave Tesla's industry-leading margins?Tuna said:
coetzeeh said:
Interested to understand the reasoning behind that. Where does that leave Tesla's industry-leading margins?rjg48 said:
coetzeeh said:
So the Model 3 with the hatchback is significantly more expensive than the Model 3.Where do I sign?
Essentially they charge exactly the same premium every other manufacturer charges for the same thing (3 series>X3, a5>Q5, C-Class>GLC)
Awaits the inevitable "They're so ugly/boring" comments..
Tuna said:
coetzeeh said:
Interested to understand the reasoning behind that. Where does that leave Tesla's industry-leading margins?Aside from Covid impact Tesla is seeing negative growth in established* markets over the last 12 months since the Model 3 was produced in meaningful numbers - in the UK Q3 2019 was the peak and then a steady decline in quarterly sales since.
Also talk that should Biden win the US election the 200k sales volume threshold for BEV subsidies will be increased to 600k however Tesla will already have breached this number hence only benefitting competition.
Tesla need to make hay.
- established I am referring to USA and Europe
Witchfinder said:
SWoll said:
It's a mid sized SUV in comparison to a saloon car with more space and practicality and better tech beneath the surface.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call the Model Y an SUV - it's a crossover at best, and in many ways looks more like an MPV.SWoll said:
Essentially they charge exactly the same premium every other manufacturer charges for the same thing (3 series>X3, a5>Q5, C-Class>GLC)
Its not a pretty car is that Model Y, judged from that pic. Looks less 'alien' than the Model 3 so won't even look good on Mars.Awaits the inevitable "They're so ugly/boring" comments..
Mind you, GLC and the others aren't oil paintings neither.
SWoll said:
Class it as you want (and I'd say those lines are well and truly blurred these days), the point is it isn't just a Model 3 with a hatchback as suggested above.
Unfortunately, with all the "technological advances" (aka problems fixed) over the Model 3, it does increasingly make the smaller model look like a misstep, and the early adopters conned into beta testing.Share price is ridiculous in the circumstances, but we know there's going to be jam tomorrow, so I'm sure it'll all be all right.
Tuna said:
SWoll said:
Class it as you want (and I'd say those lines are well and truly blurred these days), the point is it isn't just a Model 3 with a hatchback as suggested above.
Unfortunately, with all the "technological advances" (aka problems fixed) over the Model 3, it does increasingly make the smaller model look like a misstep, and the early adopters conned into beta testing.Share price is ridiculous in the circumstances, but we know there's going to be jam tomorrow, so I'm sure it'll all be all right.
jamoor said:
Isn't that what this whole thing usually is? The next model is usually better than the last. The next plane is usually better than the last. The next train is usually better than the last. It's called progress.
Sure. The problem is that makes the Model 3 a poor choice for buyers right now. "Look at my brand new last generation model"..Tuna said:
jamoor said:
Isn't that what this whole thing usually is? The next model is usually better than the last. The next plane is usually better than the last. The next train is usually better than the last. It's called progress.
Sure. The problem is that makes the Model 3 a poor choice for buyers right now. "Look at my brand new last generation model"..When BMW launch the X3 after the 3 series was launched, isn't the 3 series last generation by that time? Car makers are always launching new models. I don't think that makes a 3 series a bad buy if the new gen X3 is already out.
SWoll said:
rjg48 said:
coetzeeh said:
So the Model 3 with the hatchback is significantly more expensive than the Model 3.Where do I sign?
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