Tesla and Uber Unlikely to Survive (Vol. 2)

[Smiljan]

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment?r...

Ouch, that's got to sting if you just paid £1k more for it.

[ZesPak]

You have to be kidding to file that as a negative?

"hurr durr it's too expensive"

"oh no they made it cheaper"

[Noah EV]

They are taking the radio off you and offering to sell it back to you again.

Parting fools with their money, it may be!
Haha!

[Smiljan]

ZesPak said:

You have to be kidding to file that as a negative?

"hurr durr it's too expensive"

"oh no they made it cheaper"

I know it's late and it's Friday but I don't think I wrote anything of what you just said. Still, at least I haven't had my pants removed by an American billionaire

[off_again]

Smiljan said:

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment?r...

Ouch, that's got to sting if you just paid £1k more for it.

If you just paid for it, yeah thats going to hurt.

But, something similar came up on another thread. Would love to slam Tesla for this, but its very much in line with the industry as a whole. The fact that they offer an upgrade at all is good, and if you want to pay the money and are comfortable to do so, why not. But this is a massive issue (in my opinion) across the industry.

For example, my wifes i3 has the smaller screen - works fine, but wanted the bigger one for more functionality and better back-up camera view. Ok, so, BMW, how much for the 'upgrade'? $900 + fitting! Yeah, screw that. Aliexpress order for $300 and a couple of screws and hey presto bigger screen. As for my Merc? There are a few who have tried to figure out retro-fit & upgrade options, runs into the thousands to add a feature, and finding a dealer who will do it is the challenge. Want the better screen, increased features or functions? Yeah, upgrade the car.... jeez, thanks.

So yeah, 1k for the upgrade is steep, but at least they do something and if the benefits are worth it, great. But the fact that others either fleece you or offer nothing means that Tesla is at least ahead of things with some sort of modularity.

[Smiljan]

Wasn't slating Tesla, I just know one of our users on PH paid for the upgrade recently and am pulling his leg.

Shame others feel the need to leap to Tesla's defence on every perceived slight and twist the written words I've used.

I'm sure the user I'm talking about is happy the worlds richest man spanked him again for another £1k

[jamoor]

Noah EV said:

They are taking the radio off you and offering to sell it back to you again.

Parting fools with their money, it may be!
Haha!

Well just don't upgrade it then?

[AstonZagato]

Smiljan said:

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment?r...

Ouch, that's got to sting if you just paid £1k more for it.

A cynic might suggest that they are reducing the price before they are forced to recall the cars and replace the screen for nothing.
https://electrek.co/2020/06/24/tesla-investigation...

[hyphen]

AstonZagato said:

Smiljan said:

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment?r...

Ouch, that's got to sting if you just paid £1k more for it.

A cynic might suggest that they are reducing the price before they are forced to recall the cars and replace the screen for nothing.
https://electrek.co/2020/06/24/tesla-investigation...

cheeky fkers

[off_again]

Smiljan said:

Wasn't slating Tesla, I just know one of our users on PH paid for the upgrade recently and am pulling his leg.

Shame others feel the need to leap to Tesla's defence on every perceived slight and twist the written words I've used.

I'm sure the user I'm talking about is happy the worlds richest man spanked him again for another £1k

Trust me, I will slam Tesla when they deserve it! Dont get me started on the whole Home Depot flooring battery strap situation! But, equally, I do try to be somewhat fair and reasonable and will praise when they deserve it. Still pissed that the two cars I own that arent more than 5 years old cant do CarPlay and cant be upgraded to support it - other than third-party systems. Strikes me as a massive miss in my book.

[ZesPak]

Smiljan said:

I'm sure the user I'm talking about is happy the worlds richest man spanked him again for another £1k

Is that really what happened, or did someone want to treat himself to a bit of luxury and got an update for his in - car entrainment they have been offering?
And did the company subsequently price it down after nearly a year of offering it?

Even if you take your stance, do you visit other car sections and go laugh at people that have recently bought a car that's now sold at a lower price or is it just tesla that interests you in that way? You know stuff like this gets cheaper over time, do you not?
I bought a new full option Jag XF for the price of a bare one when they were launched, let's go point and laugh at the idiots that paid more! Ha they must feel spanked by the Indians!

[Heres Johnny]

AstonZagato said:

Smiljan said:

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment?r...

Ouch, that's got to sting if you just paid £1k more for it.

A cynic might suggest that they are reducing the price before they are forced to recall the cars and replace the screen for nothing.
https://electrek.co/2020/06/24/tesla-investigation...

It’s been accused but I’m less convinced.. The recall fix is a memory board that probably costs Tesla $200, labour is an hour, the economics of a $1000 drop on an upgrade quite a few are doing to avoid the $300 warranty fix can’t be that obvious.

I suspect it’s about an argument with the regulators and trying to turn the MCU into a common service part in the same way you’d spend a £1k having brakes (pads and discs) replaced periodically or on an ice a new exhaust, and a lower price helps support that. The argument is high technology such as the MCU ages faster than typical automotive life expectancy (look at your laptop, iPad, smart phone, none are expected to last 10 years) and so the MCU should be seen as a service item to upgrade at a reasonable price when the car is circa 4-5 years old. I believe they haven’t yet been forced to do the recall, they’ve been told they must unless they put up a defence and this plus a software change to report the problem to address the safety concern over sudden failure and the 8 year warranty will be their response. Tesla never like to follow the predictable route or be told what to do,

[gangzoom]

Smiljan said:

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment?r...

Ouch, that's got to sting if you just paid £1k more for it.

Surely this is fantastic news for consumers? I suspect its also an attempt by Tesla to avoid any MCU1 recall, which they should just get on with and do.

The battery packs self combusting is though a far more important issue, which Tesla needs to stop trying to pretend isn't an issue when it clearly is, I believe this now been formally investigated and I suspect a recall will be coming for that, in the US anyways.

As for the MCU cost, yes I paid £2340, but no one forced me, and the £1k 'saving' wouldn't even be enough to pay for the new phone am waiting for. There are far more important things in life to worry about .

[hyphen]

gangzoom said:

...the £1k 'saving' wouldn't even be enough to pay for the new phone am waiting for. There are far more important things in life to worry about .

Quoted before you have your morning coffee, realise how that sounds, and edit it.

[gangzoom]

hyphen said:

Quoted before you have your morning coffee, realise how that sounds, and edit it.

Honestly I have no idea what point (if any) you are trying to make?

The reality is consumerism is killing our planet but all of us like new stuff, no one needs a Tesla, no one needs to upgrade the MCU in their Tesla, no one needs a new phone, but I for one despite knowing all the crazy amount of resources I have and will consume through simply 'wanting' new stuff cannot help it.

The cost of new stuff is really the only control lever present to reduce consumerism, but even that really doesn't modify my wasteful/selfish behaviour despite everything I know about the horrific impact the planet is suffering because of my own actions. What worse is I know and have experienced how the 3rd world lives, so the hypocrisy of own behaviour is amplified by real life experience, but even that isn't enough for me to change.

I would love to find a way to stop my behaviour, much like the way alcoholics would love a way to stop their addiction. But after trying for about 12 months I've just given up, I just haven't got the will power needed to change the way my brain is wired .

Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 23 January 09:04

[Heres Johnny]

gangzoom said:

The reality is consumerism is killing our planet but all of us like new stuff, no one needs a Tesla, no one needs to upgrade the MCU in their Tesla, no one needs a new phone, but I for one despite knowing all the crazy amount of resources I have and will consume through simply 'wanting' new stuff cannot help it.
...

I would love to find a way to stop my behaviour

Maybe spend a few moments thinking about the world your kid will inherit from you and that you're happily destroying for her?

[Smiljan]

gangzoom said:

Smiljan said:

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/infotainment?r...

Ouch, that's got to sting if you just paid £1k more for it.

Surely this is fantastic news for consumers? I suspect its also an attempt by Tesla to avoid any MCU1 recall, which they should just get on with and do.

The battery packs self combusting is though a far more important issue, which Tesla needs to stop trying to pretend isn't an issue when it clearly is, I believe this now been formally investigated and I suspect a recall will be coming for that, in the US anyways.

As for the MCU cost, yes I paid £2340, but no one forced me, and the £1k 'saving' wouldn't even be enough to pay for the new phone am waiting for. There are far more important things in life to worry about .

Here he is! Sorry gangzoom, just a gentle ribbing that’s all. Sorry if it was a crap attempt at humour,

No idea why zespack is getting his knickers in a twist about it though, seems to take everything so personally, lighten up pal.

Putting my serious hat on, of course it’s no big deal. Maybe I’d be a bit naffed off if I’d just upgraded but it’s no different to the yo-yo pricing of the cars themselves over the years. If someone’s happy with price at the time then so be it.

Have a good weekend sir.

[Noah EV]

A clip of the Musk man before Paypal and before he had his hair done.
Sold his biz for 400mil.
What a car! The hair was the right decision too.
Furiously googling hair implants right now haha!
https://youtu.be/pAt5OVl0mnA

[anonymous-user]

gangzoom said:

no one needs to upgrade the MCU in their Tesla

Isn't it the case that if you don't upgrade the MCU, the screen which is essential for the car to be used will stop working well within the cars useful lifespan?

[ZesPak]

Smiljan said:

No idea why zespack is getting his knickers in a twist about it though, seems to take everything so personally, lighten up pal.

Tbh as you said, it was a bad joke, didn't register as one. Plenty on here seem to believe "being ripped off by the richest man on the planet" as true as they say it.