Nissan Leaf E+ Tekna 62kW

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gangzoom

6,327 posts

216 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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My best advice, first few trips take it SLOW, get to know how the range drops with speed. Drive smoothly, and don't use too much heating - heated seats use alot less energy!

Preheat the car as much as you can at home - Make sure the cabin is nice and toasty to start off with whilst plugged in.

Pump up the tyre pressures which helps a bit.

Drafting lorries really help range, but it becomes a case of how much do you trust your reaction to an emergency stop. Get through this next few months and in summer the range should be fine though.

romeogolf

2,056 posts

120 months

Tuesday 14th January 2020
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mazdajason said:
Some real conflict now. Some saying i'll get the 150 miles on one charge, others saying i'll have to charge half way or on the way back! Obviously ideally i'd not charge half way but if I have to then I have to because I really don't want to have to charge on the way home. Of my 75 miles each way, 50 of it is average speed cameras so i'll be sitting at 70mph then maybe i'll have to sit at 62-65mph and just accept it's going to take longer to get to work and back each day.

I really need a 24hr test drive and to do the drive one day I think.
50 miles at 70mph takes just shy of 43 minutes. Doing it at 60mph takes 50 minutes. Not a huge difference, and one you're unlikely to really notice.

Although I don't know the road, I would be surprised if you maintained 70mph continuously for the 50-mile stretch. It's easier to set the cruise a little lower and make fewer speed adjustments. Secondly, you'll likely find yourself meeting the cars who just overtook you a little later down the road if the traffic slows or if there are junctions/roundabouts.


mazdajason

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1,113 posts

173 months

Tuesday 14th January 2020
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romeogolf said:
50 miles at 70mph takes just shy of 43 minutes. Doing it at 60mph takes 50 minutes. Not a huge difference, and one you're unlikely to really notice.

Although I don't know the road, I would be surprised if you maintained 70mph continuously for the 50-mile stretch. It's easier to set the cruise a little lower and make fewer speed adjustments. Secondly, you'll likely find yourself meeting the cars who just overtook you a little later down the road if the traffic slows or if there are junctions/roundabouts.
Fair point re times and speeds, i'll be going against the flow of traffic both ways as most will be commuting into Aberdeen in the morning and then out of in the evening, i'll be doing the opposite so once I reach the edge of the city I do expect to be able to sit with the cruise on at 60mph+ for the next 50 miles until I reach my turn off.

I'll definitely be doing all of the pre heating before I leave and it will take time to adjust to using less heating and cooling and interesting point about heated seats!

I noticed watching the youtube videos that the guy uses the LeafSpy app, does anyone else use it?

dmsims

6,555 posts

268 months

Tuesday 14th January 2020
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A timely comparison https://youtu.be/ZH7V2tU3iFc

Leaf did over 200 miles - mostly 70mph, temp 7C

blueacid

456 posts

142 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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mazdajason said:
Fair point re times and speeds, i'll be going against the flow of traffic both ways as most will be commuting into Aberdeen in the morning and then out of in the evening, i'll be doing the opposite so once I reach the edge of the city I do expect to be able to sit with the cruise on at 60mph+ for the next 50 miles until I reach my turn off.

I'll definitely be doing all of the pre heating before I leave and it will take time to adjust to using less heating and cooling and interesting point about heated seats!

I noticed watching the youtube videos that the guy uses the LeafSpy app, does anyone else use it?
Yep, in a ICE car running the cabin heater is effectively free, since it uses waste heat from the engine. Since there's precious little heat coming from the motors in an EV, the cabin heater suddenly has it all to do. Heat pumps are commonly in use today, but they're still quite heavy in terms of power draw. If you're in the car alone, the heated seats and steering wheel draw a lot less power.

Also, I've seen a lot of comments on the speakev forums about Leafspy, it seems to be a valuable tool if you're an EV user that's even faintly keen to understand how it works underneath!

CooperS

4,508 posts

220 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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dmsims said:
A timely comparison https://youtu.be/ZH7V2tU3iFc

Leaf did over 200 miles - mostly 70mph, temp 7C
I was quite boyd by this. When folk on here were talking 140 miles it got me worried. What I took away is 170 miles is perfectly possible without proper range anxiety.

mazdajason

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1,113 posts

173 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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So I did a very non scientific test today. I drove to where i'll be working come February and where i'll be expecting (hoping!) the Leaf can get me to and home without a part charge.

From leaving the house at 0645 it was 7 miles of driving around the outskirts of road between 30-40mph then 61 miles of dual carriageway and then the final 3 miles on a B road. The 61 miles of dualler I managed a 64mph average as the road is nearly completely average speed cameras and the last 3 miles of B road was about a 30mph average as I don't know it well and it's quite twisty.

On the way home I took the exact same route but this time it was raining, wipers on constantly and on full when overtaking lorries. I managed 62mph on the way home and the final 7 miles driving the outskirts at 17mph because of rush hour traffic.

141 miles in total so I should be ok with range and a bit of leftover battery should I need it.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

152 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Sounds fine Jason, so long as you can fully recharge overnight.

ade73

432 posts

110 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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jjwilde said:
Was a cool car back in 2011.
No it wasn't smile

jamiehamy said:
I've ordered one today - on a whim really. £3k down, £172 a month, 24month lease. What's not to like? (it's a 40kwh one, so assuming old stock they want rid of).
Yes. smile

CooperS said:


I've just been told that my car which was due beginning of Feb is now mid March. Number of owners been told the same due to Nissan stopping production. No reason given so not sure if its seasonal or technical
A mix of these reasons...

Nissan has 2 lines, Line 1 builds the Qashqai and the Leaf, line 2 builds the New Juke and only a certain spec LHD Qashqai.

They have just gone back to work after 2 weeks Christmas shut down, there is always problems after a shutdown if new facility has been installed, so may be behind on business plan, On top of this Line 1 went from 3 shifts down to 2 in December, line 2 has stayed on 2 shifts. So 5 shifts less build a week.

Line 2 has got a high Juke model mix (currently 13 out of 15), getting it out to market as they launch it in more countries, There is already a waiting list for it. So less Qashqai being built on that line means more need to be built on line 1, so Leaf build is down.

And there is a stock pile of 40KW that were built before this happened.

CooperS

4,508 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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ade73 said:
CooperS said:


I've just been told that my car which was due beginning of Feb is now mid March. Number of owners been told the same due to Nissan stopping production. No reason given so not sure if its seasonal or technical
A mix of these reasons...

Nissan has 2 lines, Line 1 builds the Qashqai and the Leaf, line 2 builds the New Juke and only a certain spec LHD Qashqai.

They have just gone back to work after 2 weeks Christmas shut down, there is always problems after a shutdown if new facility has been installed, so may be behind on business plan, On top of this Line 1 went from 3 shifts down to 2 in December, line 2 has stayed on 2 shifts. So 5 shifts less build a week.

Line 2 has got a high Juke model mix (currently 13 out of 15), getting it out to market as they launch it in more countries, There is already a waiting list for it. So less Qashqai being built on that line means more need to be built on line 1, so Leaf build is down.

And there is a stock pile of 40KW that were built before this happened.
Thanks for the insight. Genuinely. But I don't particularly like being told one estimated date for.it then to be pushed back through prioritisation of the new Juke. I find it difficult to believe that Nissan wouldn't already know about the change in build strategy and couldn't forecast more accurately.

Anyway it is what it is. Tbh the new Juke looks good and will clearly be the better EV car when it is launched over the current Leaf.



mazdajason

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1,113 posts

173 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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A late reply but last Thursday the Leaf arrived! Considering it was the first or second week of January that I placed my order it’s been a long wait!

It was out straight into action the following day to complete a hundred mile site visit and that’s all I’ve driven it but I’m well impressed.

It’s come specced to the hills with BOSE, heated front and rear seats, heated steering wheel and the best bit, it’s not white! Cayenne Red I believe is the colour. When lockdown is lifted and I’m able to regularly drive it I’ll be able to say more but for now, it’s a nice ornament on the driveway.

The Nissan connect app... I’m really struggling with it. Has anyone had success? It’s stuck hanging at 19/32 services connected so I can’t see and don’t have any access to the remote charging or pre heating / cooling. Any tips?




aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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A lot of people have trouble with the app, keep pestering the dealer seems to be the solution. They have to activate something on their end.

One tip I didn't see posted, look at the battery percentage rather than the GOM. The battery percentage is linear and as you get used to how many miles you can do per 1% on various roads you will find it's the best estimate of range. Also very handy if you know that from A to B you need X%.

granada203028

1,485 posts

198 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Looking on auto traders a lot around now and new ones down to about £30.5K. Hopefully late summer they will be £25K.

mazdajason

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1,113 posts

173 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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aestetix1 said:
A lot of people have trouble with the app, keep pestering the dealer seems to be the solution. They have to activate something on their end.

One tip I didn't see posted, look at the battery percentage rather than the GOM. The battery percentage is linear and as you get used to how many miles you can do per 1% on various roads you will find it's the best estimate of range. Also very handy if you know that from A to B you need X%.
I noticed that just from the one journey I did last week that the battery % was going to be more accurate. Looking forward to getting out an about a bit more and using the car in the coming weeks.

aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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mazdajason said:
I noticed that just from the one journey I did last week that the battery % was going to be more accurate. Looking forward to getting out an about a bit more and using the car in the coming weeks.
I'm seeing a lot of people are having app trouble this week, it might be an issue on their end so waiting could work.

mazdajason

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1,113 posts

173 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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I phoned up and opened a new case with Nissan, shall see what they come back saying.

smashie

685 posts

152 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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mazdajason said:
I phoned up and opened a new case with Nissan, shall see what they come back saying.
They are not too bad. Managed to sort out my similar issue. Mine was stuck as well.
They sent me the following which worked for me.

(1) Try to do what we call an ignition cycle and system software update:

1. Please make sure app is closed on smartphone
2. Turn on vehicle for at least 15 minutes
3. Then try to update the software in the navigation system. This is not with the purpose of updating the software, but it can sometimes help the system get out of a "stuck state"
? Press "Info", then touch "System Information", then "Software Update", then "Start Software Update"
4. Turn off vehicle
5. Wait at least for 4 hours before opening the app again
6. Then reopen the app and go to the screen showing activation statuses to see if statuses have changed. If they haven't, then try to activate with the app by clicking "retry activation"

If this doesn't immediately resolve the issue, please be patient and know that sometimes it may take awhile before the statuses may change and everything becomes fully activated.

(2) If issues continue to persist, please provide us with the below information which is asked of us if we need to send this to a different technical team:


? Precise date and time when the ignition cycle and system software update was done:
? Smartphone Model (i.e. iPhone 11):
? Smartphone Model's OS (Operating System) Version (i.e. iOS 13.1.1):
? NissanConnect Services App Version:
? If any troubleshooting has been done prior to contacting us, please describe it
? From this point on, please only do troubleshooting which we advise you to do; doing otherwise risks causing further technical issues

mazdajason

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1,113 posts

173 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Appreciate that smile I shall give it a go.

granada203028

1,485 posts

198 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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How low will they go?

I've seen a new all be it pre registered car for £28,500 on auto trader.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

97 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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granada203028 said:
How low will they go?

I've seen a new all be it pre registered car for £28,500 on auto trader.
The new one comes out this year (or next?) so they will be clearing these with crazy deals this year just like they did in 2015 for the old shape leaf.