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robbieduncan said:
I don't currently have an EV. I admit I would like one. Next car will probably be a PHEV (mostly as second hand EV estates are non-existent). I thought it was a really good video. I think it probably represented a real-world viewpoint. Most people are not tracking which cars exist. Most people don't know much about EVs. A fair few people would like to be more environmentally friendly. This video was them
I've not watched the video(s) yet, but I have to get 5 more months of long distance commuting out of the way then I plan to do something with the Skoda estate (is it morally right to allow it to continue to pollute the planet by moving it on - I haven't been told yet). Replacing it will be a 4-5 year old hybrid, unless I can justify stretching to something purely electric.I will watch the video because I am drowning in the sea of opinions about these things and what to get - however, to counter the comment about the drivers of EVs, it only seems to be the nutcases on here that sermonize, I've spoken to a few owners in the real world and it's just another car which saves them money.
selym said:
I've not watched the video(s) yet, but I have to get 5 more months of long distance commuting out of the way then I plan to do something with the Skoda estate (is it morally right to allow it to continue to pollute the planet by moving it on - I haven't been told yet). Replacing it will be a 4-5 year old hybrid, unless I can justify stretching to something purely electric.
I will watch the video because I am drowning in the sea of opinions about these things and what to get - however, to counter the comment about the drivers of EVs, it only seems to be the nutcases on here that sermonize, I've spoken to a few owners in the real world and it's just another car which saves them money.
Unfortunately I don't think this video series will help with a hybrid: it's looking at brand-new EVs. Shame as the real world is more about second-hand than brand-newI will watch the video because I am drowning in the sea of opinions about these things and what to get - however, to counter the comment about the drivers of EVs, it only seems to be the nutcases on here that sermonize, I've spoken to a few owners in the real world and it's just another car which saves them money.
robbieduncan said:
selym said:
I've not watched the video(s) yet, but I have to get 5 more months of long distance commuting out of the way then I plan to do something with the Skoda estate (is it morally right to allow it to continue to pollute the planet by moving it on - I haven't been told yet). Replacing it will be a 4-5 year old hybrid, unless I can justify stretching to something purely electric.
I will watch the video because I am drowning in the sea of opinions about these things and what to get - however, to counter the comment about the drivers of EVs, it only seems to be the nutcases on here that sermonize, I've spoken to a few owners in the real world and it's just another car which saves them money.
Unfortunately I don't think this video series will help with a hybrid: it's looking at brand-new EVs. Shame as the real world is more about second-hand than brand-newI will watch the video because I am drowning in the sea of opinions about these things and what to get - however, to counter the comment about the drivers of EVs, it only seems to be the nutcases on here that sermonize, I've spoken to a few owners in the real world and it's just another car which saves them money.
this whole debate seems too charged for its own good.
how are real life experiences of hybrids? i see most of them as tax frauds and overly complex. are many getting anything like 75 miles without engine cutting in?
i see BEV for myself next as a daily but the evangelists should calm down, the network issue exists more for some users than others.
how are real life experiences of hybrids? i see most of them as tax frauds and overly complex. are many getting anything like 75 miles without engine cutting in?
i see BEV for myself next as a daily but the evangelists should calm down, the network issue exists more for some users than others.
You mean plugin hybrids? A hybrid in its self is a good thing because they get such good MPG around town specifically because of regen braking etc. Plugins seem like a relatively minor advancement over a good normal hybrid like a Prius.
That said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
That said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
buggalugs said:
You mean plugin hybrids? A hybrid in its self is a good thing because they get such good MPG around town specifically because of regen braking etc. Plugins seem like a relatively minor advancement over a good normal hybrid like a Prius.
That said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
hybrids are a crutch pushed by a car industry desperate to hang on to its massive investment in complex engine plants and after sales model, they hate BEVs for having minimal maintenanceThat said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
Dave Hedgehog said:
buggalugs said:
You mean plugin hybrids? A hybrid in its self is a good thing because they get such good MPG around town specifically because of regen braking etc. Plugins seem like a relatively minor advancement over a good normal hybrid like a Prius.
That said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
hybrids are a crutch pushed by a car industry desperate to hang on to its massive investment in complex engine plants and after sales model, they hate BEVs for having minimal maintenanceThat said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
Dave Hedgehog said:
buggalugs said:
You mean plugin hybrids? A hybrid in its self is a good thing because they get such good MPG around town specifically because of regen braking etc. Plugins seem like a relatively minor advancement over a good normal hybrid like a Prius.
That said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
hybrids are a crutch pushed by a car industry desperate to hang on to its massive investment in complex engine plants and after sales model, they hate BEVs for having minimal maintenanceThat said I’d still have say a C350e because to me it’s a fast petrol car with hybrid capability around town for the MPG and responsiveness. OK the plugin only gets you 10 miles but that’ll get me to work, and I’ll have a nice preheated cabin too.
Hybrids are something people can afford and will buy, that removes pollution from cities.
Dave Hedgehog said:
hybrids are a crutch pushed by a car industry desperate to hang on to its massive investment in complex engine plants and after sales model, they hate BEVs for having minimal maintenance
Perhaps. But as of now something like the 350e (which I also have my eye on) is a good option for those wanting a family-sized, estate car. There are no BEV versions of these that I can find available now (especially second hand). Sure there will be shortly but not now. And no, I don't want a SUV.A lot of my families journeys are very local so the range will be fine on electric mode and whilst the charging infrastructure is built-out and improved we still have petrol for longer journeys. Seems a good solution for the next few years to me
It's a stroke of genius by Fully Charged. A huge number of the core demographic for buying a new EV are early 30's, male.
A lot of them will know Maddie from CBeebies and will probably fancy her a little bit. That gets their foot in the door so to speak, then the fact that it's just a bloody good mini-series keeps them on board.
Clever stuff.
A lot of them will know Maddie from CBeebies and will probably fancy her a little bit. That gets their foot in the door so to speak, then the fact that it's just a bloody good mini-series keeps them on board.
Clever stuff.
Fastlane said:
New episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwAq0zyBdBc
Another good episode I think. As a non-EV user who's never used or even sat in an EV it was interesting to see the charging systems, times etc. Sure I could have found all this out easily with a quick search but to your average person this was good infoTerminator X said:
I appreciate you guys may hate on me here but I still don't know a single person who wants an electric car. Where is all the demand?
TX.
Loads of demand from company owners who can buy a Taycan put it through their business and be better off. So please count me as a single person who wants one.TX.
I'm finding the Series pretty good tbh. Nothing on it so far I didn't already know though.
I want a EV but can't afford one yet and for the odd occasion we do longer journeys into the middle of nowhere the infrastructure to refuel and ICE wins.
My missus is the perfect candidate for one with her 50 mile a day commute, driveway and home and almost no need for a longer range. She will probably end up in something Zoe sized in the next 12-18 months assuming we can make the numbers work against a Fiat 500 900cc with zero tax, minimal insurance costs and home servicing.
I want a EV but can't afford one yet and for the odd occasion we do longer journeys into the middle of nowhere the infrastructure to refuel and ICE wins.
My missus is the perfect candidate for one with her 50 mile a day commute, driveway and home and almost no need for a longer range. She will probably end up in something Zoe sized in the next 12-18 months assuming we can make the numbers work against a Fiat 500 900cc with zero tax, minimal insurance costs and home servicing.
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