The Nissan Leaf 40Kwh leasing discussion

[aestetix1]

AbuHaneefah said:

When I say 'averaging' I mean 3.2 Kwh is what I am getting overall, that's including the town drives and those into London.
I have to go up and down the M1 at 50mph a lot so I am not even driving over 50 most of the time.
I have seen how quickly the battery goes down driving above 70mph but I was expecting to get at least 105 miles off a full charge.
That's how much I need to get to my parents house without stopping to charge, as I am taking the M1, M25 and M3 most of the way there, I am not really going very fast (max 70) for any period of time.
By the time I got to the A303, I had hardly any range left and had to divert to Solstice Park to the nearest Rapid Charger - I could have risked it and I may have made it with around 2% to go.

I am driving with E-Pedal , using the Pilot Pro on the motorway and driving in 'B' so not sure what else I can do to improve the range.
I did notice the Economy drop to under 3 miles/kWh even when I was plodding along at 40 mph sometimes.

3.2/mile is terrible for a Leaf 40. My old Leaf 24 would average about 3.4 if I made zero effort and that was doing high acceleration motorway stints every day.

It might have a fault that's causing it or it might be your driving style but you should have to have an extremely heavy right foot to be getting that low. If you were getting under 3.0 at 40 MPH I'd say it is definitely a fault.

[AbuHaneefah]

aestetix1 said:

3.2/mile is terrible for a Leaf 40. My old Leaf 24 would average about 3.4 if I made zero effort and that was doing high acceleration motorway stints every day.

It might have a fault that's causing it or it might be your driving style but you should have to have an extremely heavy right foot to be getting that low. If you were getting under 3.0 at 40 MPH I'd say it is definitely a fault.

I thought it may have been my driving style initially, I did enjoy the quick acceleration from 0 to about 40 initially , however that made my daughter sick and after cleaning out the car seat from vomit (twice) I now drive around like I am driving miss daisy!

I changed the display to show the live economy and it was dropping to about 2 miles per kWh and then going back up again when I was doing 40 on a dual carriage way, it wasn't my driving style then as I was using Pro Pilot to follow the car ahead of me.

[AbuHaneefah]

aestetix1 said:

3.2/mile is terrible for a Leaf 40. My old Leaf 24 would average about 3.4 if I made zero effort and that was doing high acceleration motorway stints every day.

It might have a fault that's causing it or it might be your driving style but you should have to have an extremely heavy right foot to be getting that low. If you were getting under 3.0 at 40 MPH I'd say it is definitely a fault.

Actually, thought about this again - if I was getting 3.2 mile per kWh - I would get 128 miles.
In reality I got about 105 miles (or would have if I didn't stop to recharge), maybe another 10 miles with the few percent I would have had left giving the LEAF benefit of doubt.
115/40 = 2.875 mile /kWh

[SpeckledJim]

That is pants.

Maybe ask to borrow a demo for a day and see if you get a different return from that.

[AbuHaneefah]

SpeckledJim said:

That is pants.

Maybe ask to borrow a demo for a day and see if you get a different return from that.

I picked the car up in Peterborough - that's a fair drive from where I live in Luton.

I did do a test drive for a day before I bought the car but it was pretty cold so I put the lack of range down to that - besides, I only drove it 40 miles before charging it .

[Knock_knock]

AbuHaneefah said:

I thought it may have been my driving style initially, I did enjoy the quick acceleration from 0 to about 40 initially , however that made my daughter sick and after cleaning out the car seat from vomit (twice) I now drive around like I am driving miss daisy!

I changed the display to show the live economy and it was dropping to about 2 miles per kWh and then going back up again when I was doing 40 on a dual carriage way, it wasn't my driving style then as I was using Pro Pilot to follow the car ahead of me.

Have you checked the tyre pressures? Low pressures will increase the rolling resistance quite a bit.

[superpp]

On the motorway, you are better driving at 65mph in D mode with Epedal off.

ProPilot will also 'waste' energy as you slow down as you catch vehicles and then the car accelerates as you pull out to overtake. If driving manually you normally avoid this slow down/speed up.

Edited by superpp on Wednesday 10th June 15:15

[aestetix1]

AbuHaneefah said:

I thought it may have been my driving style initially, I did enjoy the quick acceleration from 0 to about 40 initially , however that made my daughter sick and after cleaning out the car seat from vomit (twice) I now drive around like I am driving miss daisy!

I changed the display to show the live economy and it was dropping to about 2 miles per kWh and then going back up again when I was doing 40 on a dual carriage way, it wasn't my driving style then as I was using Pro Pilot to follow the car ahead of me.

Something is wrong for sure. Low tyre pressure, sticky brake, wheels not aligned, drivetrain problem... The 40 is supposed to be more efficient than the old models, not a lot less.

[Andyjc86]

Slight thread resurrection.......

I have been offered a 40kw leaf on a salary sacrifice scheme. It’s about £305 pm for 10k including maintenance, insurance, tax and tyres, on a 2 year lease.

It appears to be a good deal from what I can see on private leases, so I’m tempted.

Neither myself or my wife will be using it for work, it’ll just be doing family duties, mainly around town. I would guess that once every couple of months we’ll do a longer journey that would require us to charge en route.

From what I’ve read on here, the range appears to be around 100-120 miles.

What are they like to live with? Nice to drive etc?

I’ve can get an MG ZS for similar money, but the build quality of them worries me (although I have driven one, and it was fun)

[SpeckledJim]

Andyjc86 said:

Slight thread resurrection.......

I have been offered a 40kw leaf on a salary sacrifice scheme. It’s about £305 pm for 10k including maintenance, insurance, tax and tyres, on a 2 year lease.

It appears to be a good deal from what I can see on private leases, so I’m tempted.

Neither myself or my wife will be using it for work, it’ll just be doing family duties, mainly around town. I would guess that once every couple of months we’ll do a longer journey that would require us to charge en route.

From what I’ve read on here, the range appears to be around 100-120 miles.

What are they like to live with? Nice to drive etc?

I’ve can get an MG ZS for similar money, but the build quality of them worries me (although I have driven one, and it was fun)

I get 95 miles from a 24kWh Leaf on 67,000 miles, so I'd expect you'd do a bit better than 100-120 miles from 40kWh.

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Andyjc86 said:

Slight thread resurrection.......
I have been offered a 40kw leaf on a salary sacrifice scheme. It’s about £305 pm for 10k including maintenance, insurance, tax and tyres, on a 2 year lease.

Is the Hyundai Ioniq Electric available on the scheme? We’ve just changed from a Leaf to the Ioniq and are finding it a better car in almost every way. It’s vastly more efficient, we’re averaging around 190 miles on a charge without making any allowances at all in our driving style.

Our lease (without salary sacrifice, but also without maintenance) is £70/month less than that.

Edited by page3 on Friday 25th September 09:24

[Andyjc86]

page3 said:

Andyjc86 said:

Slight thread resurrection.......
I have been offered a 40kw leaf on a salary sacrifice scheme. It’s about £305 pm for 10k including maintenance, insurance, tax and tyres, on a 2 year lease.

Is the Hyundai Ioniq Electric available on the scheme? We’ve just changed from a Leaf to the Ioniq and are finding it a better car in almost every way. It’s vastly more efficient, we’re averaging around 190 miles on a charge without making any allowances at all in our driving style.

Our lease (without salary sacrifice, but also without maintenance) is £70/month less than that.

Edited by page3 on Friday 25th September 09:24

It is, but massive wait times. What’s the deal of your lease and where from if you don’t mind me asking?

[jjwilde]

Andyjc86 said:

Slight thread resurrection.......

I have been offered a 40kw leaf on a salary sacrifice scheme. It’s about £305 pm for 10k including maintenance, insurance, tax and tyres, on a 2 year lease.

It appears to be a good deal from what I can see on private leases, so I’m tempted.

Neither myself or my wife will be using it for work, it’ll just be doing family duties, mainly around town. I would guess that once every couple of months we’ll do a longer journey that would require us to charge en route.

From what I’ve read on here, the range appears to be around 100-120 miles.

What are they like to live with? Nice to drive etc?

I’ve can get an MG ZS for similar money, but the build quality of them worries me (although I have driven one, and it was fun)

The MG is the better car I'd say from reading owners comments over at speak EV. It's more practical and faster too.

Remember the Leaf40 suffers from issues with long journeys due to having no cooling on the batteries.

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Andyjc86 said:

It is, but massive wait times. What’s the deal of your lease and where from if you don’t mind me asking?

ZenAuto back in Feb, but their current rates aren’t as good. Premium in pearlescent blue, 10k miles, 6x35 for £240/month.

[dmsims]

jjwilde said:

Andyjc86 said:

Slight thread resurrection.......

I’ve can get an MG ZS for similar money, but the build quality of them worries me (although I have driven one, and it was fun)

The MG is the better car I'd say from reading owners comments over at speak EV. It's more practical and faster too.

Remember the Leaf40 suffers from issues with long journeys due to having no cooling on the batteries.

Indeed why are you worried on a lease car which has a 7 year warranty

[Andyjc86]

dmsims said:

Indeed why are you worried on a lease car which has a 7 year warranty

My job, as good as it is, allows me to see lots of different broken down vehicles every day, which is a pain when you’re looking to replace your car.

I’ve never been to a leaf for anything other then tyres. The same can’t be said about the ZS unfortunately.

I know it’s leased, but I still want it to work lol

[Toaster Pilot]

Andyjc86 said:

My job, as good as it is, allows me to see lots of different broken down vehicles every day, which is a pain when you’re looking to replace your car.

I’ve never been to a leaf for anything other then tyres. The same can’t be said about the ZS unfortunately.

I know it’s leased, but I still want it to work lol

Got any examples of faults you’ve seen on the ZS EV? Pretty close to buying one, haven’t heard many horror stories.

[anonymous-user]

Andyjc86 said:

My job, as good as it is, allows me to see lots of different broken down vehicles every day, which is a pain when you’re looking to replace your car.

I’ve never been to a leaf for anything other then tyres. The same can’t be said about the ZS unfortunately.

I know it’s leased, but I still want it to work lol

What car do you have then?

[Andyjc86]

Toaster Pilot said:

Andyjc86 said:

My job, as good as it is, allows me to see lots of different broken down vehicles every day, which is a pain when you’re looking to replace your car.

I’ve never been to a leaf for anything other then tyres. The same can’t be said about the ZS unfortunately.

I know it’s leased, but I still want it to work lol

Got any examples of faults you’ve seen on the ZS EV? Pretty close to buying one, haven’t heard many horror stories.

Other then tyres, it’s been charging faults. A couple have been left stranded, and one that I can remember didn’t charge from delivery. Don’t get me wrong, that’s not loads, but it’s just what I’ve seen personally.

I’ve driven one, and was really impressed, but I just have that element of doubt in my mind.

I might just let the missus see which she prefers, then it’s out of my hands lol

[Andyjc86]

anonymous said:

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None at the minute (well I borrow whatever my parents aren’t using).

My trusty ford b max was wrote off on June. That was 6 years old, but I just fancy the hassle free approach of leasing now