The Nissan Leaf 40Kwh leasing discussion
Discussion
ministrymason said:
andyroth said:
so what is the best tekna 40w deal around at the moment? my 530e is being return begining of may. best i've found is
1+23 £333 10k
Mine is 1+23 £333 10k
£309
1+23
12,000 MPA (10k will be cheaper)
Stock Tekna white
Collection smiths Peterborough Nissan
+£5 for servicing
AbuHaneefah said:
It seems like you get a free charger with this too:
https://www.ovoenergy.com/electric-cars/vehicle-to...
Got them coming to do a site survey next week to assess viability. Seems a no-brainer at the moment unless i'm missing something. Looks to be a standard CHAdeMO tethered unit with the smart stuff handled by the integrated app. https://www.ovoenergy.com/electric-cars/vehicle-to...
Only potential downside I could see is if the charger is somehow linked to OVO only and at the end of the contract you'd have to fork out for another charger. Not the end of the world though, certainly not if it achieves anywhere near the savings it promises
Sargeant Orange said:
Got them coming to do a site survey next week to assess viability. Seems a no-brainer at the moment unless i'm missing something. Looks to be a standard CHAdeMO tethered unit with the smart stuff handled by the integrated app.
Only potential downside I could see is if the charger is somehow linked to OVO only and at the end of the contract you'd have to fork out for another charger. Not the end of the world though, certainly not if it achieves anywhere near the savings it promises
I have sent them pictures instead of a survey. Seems a no brainer to potentially save money and £400 charger cost. The only problem is it will take 9 weeks to get the charger. 6 weeks to switch to OVO and 3 weeks install the charger. I’m picking the leaf up next week Only potential downside I could see is if the charger is somehow linked to OVO only and at the end of the contract you'd have to fork out for another charger. Not the end of the world though, certainly not if it achieves anywhere near the savings it promises
ministrymason said:
I have sent them pictures instead of a survey. Seems a no brainer to potentially save money and £400 charger cost. The only problem is it will take 9 weeks to get the charger. 6 weeks to switch to OVO and 3 weeks install the charger. I’m picking the leaf up next week
I had FOMO and magically an email arrived ... survey booked for Tuesday. I suspect there'll be a lot of add on charges to "upgrade stuff" and because my garage is in front of the house, so it's a good 10m or so of cable to run Mine is a factory order, so June-ish
Sargeant Orange said:
Got them coming to do a site survey next week to assess viability. Seems a no-brainer at the moment unless i'm missing something. Looks to be a standard CHAdeMO tethered unit with the smart stuff handled by the integrated app.
Only potential downside I could see is if the charger is somehow linked to OVO only and at the end of the contract you'd have to fork out for another charger. Not the end of the world though, certainly not if it achieves anywhere near the savings it promises
I read the blurb, you can take ownership at the end of the contract for £1.Only potential downside I could see is if the charger is somehow linked to OVO only and at the end of the contract you'd have to fork out for another charger. Not the end of the world though, certainly not if it achieves anywhere near the savings it promises
Dave Hedgehog said:
in this instance true
but for owners i can see battery condition being more important than mileage for the cars value when moving it on in the future
Why do you think there’ll be more battery deg, out of interest? but for owners i can see battery condition being more important than mileage for the cars value when moving it on in the future
I’m thinking about it (OVO V2G) for our (owned) Leaf, have skimmed the thread on speakEV and there was talk of it helping the battery, not hindering it.
So I had a conversation with Ollie at OVO and email exchanges.
Basically it’s not just limited to V2G, it’s V2H too.
So you can have a setup where if you’re home is consuming energy, it can first draw what’s available from car battery and top up additional demand from the grid.
This got me thinking, instead of having a 5-7kWh home battery installed at c£5k, with all the internal works required, you could potentially buy a 24kWh Leaf for about £6k and park that on the drive as your home battery, with added utility as transport.
It’s a 2 year agreement where the 30pkWh is fixed but you can choose to have any of their energy tariffs. So a 1 yr fix or variable etc.
Initially they will peg the discharge rate from battery at ~3kw and put in application with DNO to increase it to ~6kw
In response to other comment to on this thread, it won’t be Chademo connector, that’s for rapid charging DC, it will be Type 2.
There’s no reason it will become obsolete after the trial. At worst it might be come a dumb charger with simple on/off
If this is a lease then don’t worry about but battery degradation but otherwise Nissan will still honour warranty.
Basically it’s not just limited to V2G, it’s V2H too.
So you can have a setup where if you’re home is consuming energy, it can first draw what’s available from car battery and top up additional demand from the grid.
This got me thinking, instead of having a 5-7kWh home battery installed at c£5k, with all the internal works required, you could potentially buy a 24kWh Leaf for about £6k and park that on the drive as your home battery, with added utility as transport.
It’s a 2 year agreement where the 30pkWh is fixed but you can choose to have any of their energy tariffs. So a 1 yr fix or variable etc.
Initially they will peg the discharge rate from battery at ~3kw and put in application with DNO to increase it to ~6kw
In response to other comment to on this thread, it won’t be Chademo connector, that’s for rapid charging DC, it will be Type 2.
There’s no reason it will become obsolete after the trial. At worst it might be come a dumb charger with simple on/off
If this is a lease then don’t worry about but battery degradation but otherwise Nissan will still honour warranty.
loofer said:
So I had a conversation with Ollie at OVO and email exchanges.
Basically it’s not just limited to V2G, it’s V2H too.
So you can have a setup where if you’re home is consuming energy, it can first draw what’s available from car battery and top up additional demand from the grid.
This got me thinking, instead of having a 5-7kWh home battery installed at c£5k, with all the internal works required, you could potentially buy a 24kWh Leaf for about £6k and park that on the drive as your home battery, with added utility as transport.
It’s a 2 year agreement where the 30pkWh is fixed but you can choose to have any of their energy tariffs. So a 1 yr fix or variable etc.
Initially they will peg the discharge rate from battery at ~3kw and put in application with DNO to increase it to ~6kw
In response to other comment to on this thread, it won’t be Chademo connector, that’s for rapid charging DC, it will be Type 2.
There’s no reason it will become obsolete after the trial. At worst it might be come a dumb charger with simple on/off
If this is a lease then don’t worry about but battery degradation but otherwise Nissan will still honour warranty.
Exactly right, except sadly an early Leaf won’t do V2x.Basically it’s not just limited to V2G, it’s V2H too.
So you can have a setup where if you’re home is consuming energy, it can first draw what’s available from car battery and top up additional demand from the grid.
This got me thinking, instead of having a 5-7kWh home battery installed at c£5k, with all the internal works required, you could potentially buy a 24kWh Leaf for about £6k and park that on the drive as your home battery, with added utility as transport.
It’s a 2 year agreement where the 30pkWh is fixed but you can choose to have any of their energy tariffs. So a 1 yr fix or variable etc.
Initially they will peg the discharge rate from battery at ~3kw and put in application with DNO to increase it to ~6kw
In response to other comment to on this thread, it won’t be Chademo connector, that’s for rapid charging DC, it will be Type 2.
There’s no reason it will become obsolete after the trial. At worst it might be come a dumb charger with simple on/off
If this is a lease then don’t worry about but battery degradation but otherwise Nissan will still honour warranty.
SpeckledJim said:
Exactly right, except sadly an early Leaf won’t do V2x.
How early?warning: thread derailment...
I think it would be most beneficial where:
you can charge for free (solar or other public/workplace charging scheme)
You're able to access charging that costs a fair bit less than your domestic tariff rate with OVO
I'm more interested in the V2H aspect of it than the V2G
I suppose if you don't already have a home chargepoint then getting one for free is a good saving of a few hundred £ straight away.
The 30p/kWh is very generous but although they give an indication of peak times being 4-7pm weekdays, there's no guarantee they'll draw upon that.
So whilst the potential to "earn" let's say = 30p-16p = ~13p/kWH, which is the difference between what you paid OVO to charge your battery during the day and what they buy it back from at, then allowing for some transmission/calculation inefficiencies.
Say if you got the max 3hrs/weekday discharge at 6kWh, that's 90kWhs/week.
at 13p/kWH it's only £11.70/week
If you get the energy for free (solar/employer etc) then you're looking at nearer £25/week
loofer said:
How early?
warning: thread derailment...
I think it would be most beneficial where:
you can charge for free (solar or other public/workplace charging scheme)
You're able to access charging that costs a fair bit less than your domestic tariff rate with OVO
I'm more interested in the V2H aspect of it than the V2G
I suppose if you don't already have a home chargepoint then getting one for free is a good saving of a few hundred £ straight away.
The 30p/kWh is very generous but although they give an indication of peak times being 4-7pm weekdays, there's no guarantee they'll draw upon that.
So whilst the potential to "earn" let's say = 30p-16p = ~13p/kWH, which is the difference between what you paid OVO to charge your battery during the day and what they buy it back from at, then allowing for some transmission/calculation inefficiencies.
Say if you got the max 3hrs/weekday discharge at 6kWh, that's 90kWhs/week.
at 13p/kWH it's only £11.70/week
If you get the energy for free (solar/employer etc) then you're looking at nearer £25/week
They mention only the 40 and 60 kW Leafs being suitable. warning: thread derailment...
I think it would be most beneficial where:
you can charge for free (solar or other public/workplace charging scheme)
You're able to access charging that costs a fair bit less than your domestic tariff rate with OVO
I'm more interested in the V2H aspect of it than the V2G
I suppose if you don't already have a home chargepoint then getting one for free is a good saving of a few hundred £ straight away.
The 30p/kWh is very generous but although they give an indication of peak times being 4-7pm weekdays, there's no guarantee they'll draw upon that.
So whilst the potential to "earn" let's say = 30p-16p = ~13p/kWH, which is the difference between what you paid OVO to charge your battery during the day and what they buy it back from at, then allowing for some transmission/calculation inefficiencies.
Say if you got the max 3hrs/weekday discharge at 6kWh, that's 90kWhs/week.
at 13p/kWH it's only £11.70/week
If you get the energy for free (solar/employer etc) then you're looking at nearer £25/week
Shame about the peak hours, will usually be at work or commuting during those hours so it means very little earning if I got it.
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