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Bannock said:
A500leroy said:
Update:
Each Ami will be delivered with a standard European two-pin plug and a type 2 adaptor enabling it to be charged at all UK public charging points. Please note: electric vehicles sold in the United Kingdom are required to have the ability to charge via a type 2 charging cable, and our approved Type 2 charger is only compatible with a European two-pin plug.
Am I reading this right? No UK 3-pin plugs for home charging? So you'll have to have either a tethered or untherered Type 2 charger at home?Each Ami will be delivered with a standard European two-pin plug and a type 2 adaptor enabling it to be charged at all UK public charging points. Please note: electric vehicles sold in the United Kingdom are required to have the ability to charge via a type 2 charging cable, and our approved Type 2 charger is only compatible with a European two-pin plug.
Toaster Pilot said:
Luke. said:
I read recently that you can't drive one on a car licence.
Anyone with a full car licence will have the required AM category to drive one of these. Interestingly though, looking at my licence online, do I need to do a CBT on a moped to drive one??
You can definitely drive an Ami with a normal driving licence.
Mammasaid said:
Cough!
I wouldn’t use that kind of adaptor - the ones you sometimes get with appliances to more permanently convert would be better https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272393279083
ajprice said:
Amateurish said:
The Ami doesn't fall within the light quadricycle category because it is too heavy.
You can definitely drive an Ami with a normal driving licence.
You can definitely drive an Ami with a normal driving licence.
it's classed as a heavy quadricycle, the same as an Aixam, Twizy or G-Wiz.croyde said:
I'm quite taken with this and it would be ok on my London commute, especially as most of the way is a 20mph limit.
It'll stop my reckless overtakes.
It'll infuriate everyone on the 40mph average dual carriageway though. Unless everyone gets one.
I think that, like the Twizy, the reality isn't as good as the hype. It's very basic and cheaply built. Fun in some places but for commuting? I think you'll soon miss the luxury and comfort of a modern car. I also think you'd always get bullied out of the way too.It'll stop my reckless overtakes.
It'll infuriate everyone on the 40mph average dual carriageway though. Unless everyone gets one.
Toaster Pilot said:
Amateurish said:
Wrong for the UK.
Correct in France (probably the source of the confusion).
They really are feckless. Their previous email said you’d need a full B licence which I assume is actually correct?Correct in France (probably the source of the confusion).
croyde said:
I'm quite taken with this and it would be ok on my London commute, especially as most of the way is a 20mph limit.
It'll stop my reckless overtakes.
It'll enfuriate everyone on the 40mph average dual carriageway though. Unless everyone gets one.
Exactly the type of place it should be used - it's madness people commuting in London using petrol or diesel engines, emitting fumes and doing 20mph for 6 miles, when the alternative is a clean, small EV. It'll stop my reckless overtakes.
It'll enfuriate everyone on the 40mph average dual carriageway though. Unless everyone gets one.
Condi said:
Bannock said:
Am I reading this right? No UK 3-pin plugs for home charging? So you'll have to have either a tethered or untherered Type 2 charger at home?
Takes 5 mins to chop off the French plug and wire a UK plug to the end of the wire. Or buy an adapter. I imagine the Type 2 adaptor would only work with an untethered Type 2 Charger *not* a tethered charger.
blue_haddock said:
I saw one of these last week in the south of France.
Looked quirky but not practical in the slightest unless you live in London and rarely do more than 5 miles from home.
I don't agree with that - look at the average distances from work, from the shops, and the average milage each person does per year. There is absolutely no point cars carrying round a 500kg battery which does 200 miles per charge when they do 20 miles a day and go home every night. The whole obsession with range is irrelevant for 90% of car owners if they think about how you refuel an EV vs how you refuel a petrol car. Looked quirky but not practical in the slightest unless you live in London and rarely do more than 5 miles from home.
Condi said:
I don't agree with that - look at the average distances from work, from the shops, and the average milage each person does per year. There is absolutely no point cars carrying round a 500kg battery which does 200 miles per charge when they do 20 miles a day and go home every night. The whole obsession with range is irrelevant for 90% of car owners if they think about how you refuel an EV vs how you refuel a petrol car.
So I do about 25 miles per day each way to work but I have the choice of either a fast a road or a motorway so it's pointless for me.I don't really need to use my 7 seat caddy every day as it's always just me so that why I'm considering something like a Toyota Aygo or IQ for my commute.
blue_haddock said:
So I do about 25 miles per day each way to work but I have the choice of either a fast a road or a motorway so it's pointless for me.
I don't really need to use my 7 seat caddy every day as it's always just me so that why I'm considering something like a Toyota Aygo or IQ for my commute.
Oh sure, the 25mph thing is not practical for an only car, but there is defiantly a market for a small EV with 60 miles of range at a sensible price point (10-12k??). My point was more that EV's are expensive and heavy because of the large batteries which are unnecessary for many people. I don't really need to use my 7 seat caddy every day as it's always just me so that why I'm considering something like a Toyota Aygo or IQ for my commute.
There is a French company which for £4k will take your Fiat 500/Mini etc and retrofit a battery pack and motor with 50 miles of range. That seems to be a sensible thing for the future.
Condi said:
There is a French company which for 4k will take your Fiat 500/Mini etc and retrofit a battery pack and motor with 50 miles of range. That seems to be a sensible thing for the future.
Had the opportunity to chat with Alberic from Transition One this weekend and it's still a WIP with the aim of getting it at ~5k EUR. Definitely a compelling concept and much more interesting than 50k EUR Porsche conversions.Lovely chap with a brilliant idea. The car industry isn't happy with what he's trying to achieve though.
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