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RobDickinson

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Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Witchfinder said:
Fusion is likely to happen sooner than you think, but it won't come from big stuff like ITER.
Agree on that, lot of progress in fusion as a whole and ITER is a slow rolling project , should likely get there eventually but..

RobDickinson

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Thursday 30th July 2020
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Shirly the larger pack car will charge faster than 50kw?

RobDickinson

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Friday 31st July 2020
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kambites said:
In the short term I think higher prices for EVs comes down to the R&D costs being spread over a smaller number of units
I think you're missing 2 points.

1 is mass production, there's about 50 ice cars produced for each EV at the moment and scale reduces cost massively for all the components (which is why shared platforms are tempting)

2 is sales, what happens when you offer an EV version at comparable purchase price but have a supply of 1:50? How do you shift those ice cars that cost the consumer more to run, service, depreciate faster and are typically less safe?

RobDickinson

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Wednesday 19th August 2020
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https://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/t...

"Safety is the driving force behind the GVWR for any vehicle. If a vehicle is overloaded, a number of problems can result. For example, if the vehicle is too heavy, the brakes may not be substantial enough to slow down or stop the vehicle effectively; the suspension components can become ineffective or possibly even break under the added strain and tires that are overloaded generate more heat, making them more likely to blow out. For safety's sake, the GVW should never surpass the GVWR."

RobDickinson

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Wednesday 19th August 2020
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ZesPak said:
That actually makes sense!

So a good explanation could be that suspension, tires and brakes are not up to the task?
Or more, and they are unwilling to improve whatever is needed, it'll either cost too much or compromise something else.

The overall weight could be reduced over the production life and that 5th seat added back in later I guess as the platform develops. I feel they've missed some targets but went with it anyhow.


RobDickinson

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Wednesday 19th August 2020
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I'm sure all you button lovers are still using Nokia or blackberry phones.

RobDickinson

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Wednesday 19th August 2020
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It's the big piano black industry lobby groups

RobDickinson

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Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Any situation I'd feel uncomfortable using the touch screen I'd feel equally uncomfortable using non wheel controls in any other car.

Obviously I have full voice commands if I need to change something without taking my eyes of the road or hands off the wheel which beats either kind of other control.

RobDickinson

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Wednesday 19th August 2020
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kambites, recently..






tbh the more I see of the id.3 interior the less I like it, dont like the plastics, or layout or look of the materials., the seat/cupra version looks better. Might be different in person though but it looks like the golf 8 got the good stuff.

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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SWoll said:
Having finally watched the CarPervert video if you've got a budget of £30-35k and really want a brand new family friendly EV I'm struggling to see why you would consider this over a Kia Nero EV other than the badge?
The ID.3 is RWD and probably drives better, not tried the eNiro but the Kona struggles to put its power down and I didnt like the ride quality (made me feel sick which is prtty impressive). Both are decent cars though if thats not a problem.

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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ash73 said:
wtf is going on with the naming?
You nod along with the whole ID3 name concept right until they mention the ID4 then it falls apart entirely.

RobDickinson

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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VW group are playing it very safe but then they always have.

Hopefully the ID Buzz makes it out and is a little more fun

RobDickinson

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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FurtiveFreddy said:
ID4 looks just like the "new baby electric jag" to me

uh really?




That jag looks very close to a model 3

RobDickinson

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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If you took the badge of the jag I would guess it as a kia (not that kia make bad looking cars these days tbh)

RobDickinson

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Friday 21st August 2020
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On paper same ish speed not seen any unofficial ipace timing but the P2 is pretty quick in a straight line

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Monday 24th August 2020
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ash73 said:
Why has the Jag EV got a grille? That's just stupid.
The Jag is just a magazine mock up but then the iPace has a grille too.

RobDickinson

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Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Or BMW...

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Tuesday 25th August 2020
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To be fair it's a lot harder to sell someone something with 2 new things, much easier to sell them on EV if it looks like your old car.

RobDickinson

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Friday 28th August 2020
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Is it that much different to the leaf? Or even zoe?

I think VW have strung it's development and release so long perhaps we're all just over it given its (on purpose) humdrum spec and design

RobDickinson

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Monday 14th September 2020
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No, no it's not.