Reasons Tesla are the only current good choice to buy
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unless I missed something
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/supercharger
24p per kwh
Thats ignoring any 'idle fees etc'
Ecotricity is about 15p if you have their home electricity also.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/supercharger
24p per kwh
Thats ignoring any 'idle fees etc'
Ecotricity is about 15p if you have their home electricity also.
George Smiley said:
50kw may seem super fast but it’s time value is it not? It’s quicker for me to drive 20 miles to the local Superchargers plug in fully charge and drive home
Say you buy a Leaf 62 or Kona or eNiro. You save £10,000 over the cheapest Tesla Model 3. How much time do you have to spend charging before it's worth spending £10,000 to make it go faster?I hope you didn't pay for Full Self Driving either. Imagine having paid for it 4 years ago and today Tesla is seemingly no nearer to delivering it than they were then. Deadline after deadline missed and your car is reaching the end of its warranty. It's going to be rusting in the scrapyard before they send it that software update.
jason61c said:
The best thing going for them is a very ‘loyal’ customer base. Charging a none Tesla isn’t an issue, it’s also cheaper than the supercharger network.
jason61c said:
unless I missed something
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/supercharger
24p per kwh
Thats ignoring any 'idle fees etc'
Ecotricity is about 15p if you have their home electricity also.
That's rather a big if, and when you aren't an ecotricity home customer as many won't be due to better home charging prices from other suppliers it's 30p a kWh so more expensive.https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/supercharger
24p per kwh
Thats ignoring any 'idle fees etc'
Ecotricity is about 15p if you have their home electricity also.
Having run 2 EV's for 20k miles over an 18 month period and experienced both Tesla and non-Tesla public charging I'd suggest holding off on your verdict until you've actually got an EV and tried it on a regular basis. There's a huge difference in speed/reliability/availability between the 2 and if I had to rely on public charging regularly there's no way I'd buy anything but a Tesla. Hopefully this will improve.
aestetix1 said:
George Smiley said:
50kw may seem super fast but it’s time value is it not? It’s quicker for me to drive 20 miles to the local Superchargers plug in fully charge and drive home
Say you buy a Leaf 62 or Kona or eNiro. You save £10,000 over the cheapest Tesla Model 3. How much time do you have to spend charging before it's worth spending £10,000 to make it go faster?I hope you didn't pay for Full Self Driving either. Imagine having paid for it 4 years ago and today Tesla is seemingly no nearer to delivering it than they were then. Deadline after deadline missed and your car is reaching the end of its warranty. It's going to be rusting in the scrapyard before they send it that software update.
I’m glad I canned the ipace order
The leaf and Nero are great but would you drive to Rome in one?
George Smiley said:
Based on my experience of how painful life outside the Tesla network and the many other observations posted about how poor the situation is, if you want to cover any distance you need a Tesla.
I’m glad I canned the ipace order
The leaf and Nero are great but would you drive to Rome in one?
Yes.I’m glad I canned the ipace order
The leaf and Nero are great but would you drive to Rome in one?
https://youtu.be/vSg5EYFk1I8
Having actually owned other EVs I can tell you that I've not had a problem doing longer journeys in them. At worst it takes you longer because of more charging stops but with the Niro the bigger battery largely offsets any benefit from faster charging you get in a Model 3 SR+ anyway. And that's assuming you don't just want to stop for longer to eat etc. anyway.
sambucket said:
Oh man. It's so worth it.
You will note the total lack of naysayers who actually own a modern Tesla.
Total and utter rubbish!You will note the total lack of naysayers who actually own a modern Tesla.
I could right you a 10 page essay on why both mi e and my father Tesla’s have been crap!
Plenty of hacked off owners and ex owners on the Facebook group.
Like the ones having to replace the central computer because it falling apart after a few years and the charging throttled back.
Although in the world EVs they are still miles ahead with the charging network. Just turn up plug in, always works never been left high and dry by the network.
ntiz said:
Total and utter rubbish!
I could right you a 10 page essay on why both mi e and my father Tesla’s have been crap!
Plenty of hacked off owners and ex owners on the Facebook group.
Like the ones having to replace the central computer because it falling apart after a few years and the charging throttled back.
Although in the world EVs they are still miles ahead with the charging network. Just turn up plug in, always works never been left high and dry by the network.
I said 'modern' tesla!I could right you a 10 page essay on why both mi e and my father Tesla’s have been crap!
Plenty of hacked off owners and ex owners on the Facebook group.
Like the ones having to replace the central computer because it falling apart after a few years and the charging throttled back.
Although in the world EVs they are still miles ahead with the charging network. Just turn up plug in, always works never been left high and dry by the network.
sambucket said:
ntiz said:
Total and utter rubbish!
I could right you a 10 page essay on why both mi e and my father Tesla’s have been crap!
Plenty of hacked off owners and ex owners on the Facebook group.
Like the ones having to replace the central computer because it falling apart after a few years and the charging throttled back.
Although in the world EVs they are still miles ahead with the charging network. Just turn up plug in, always works never been left high and dry by the network.
I said 'modern' tesla!I could right you a 10 page essay on why both mi e and my father Tesla’s have been crap!
Plenty of hacked off owners and ex owners on the Facebook group.
Like the ones having to replace the central computer because it falling apart after a few years and the charging throttled back.
Although in the world EVs they are still miles ahead with the charging network. Just turn up plug in, always works never been left high and dry by the network.
Spent 3 weeks in a “modern 100D” still had all the problems of my Model S.
jason61c said:
sambucket said:
Hands up anyone who owns a model 3, who would swap it for any other buyable EV on the market in it's segment / price range?
or hands up who could have any model 3 but chooses polestar 2 instead?Point being, that there's a real competitor, they'll be more.
Some very polarised views on here.
I took an e-Tron 55 because it met my needs better than any equivalently priced Tesla (Lease). I still think Tesla’s are good and just recommended to my brother that he looked into a M3P.
I’m sure there are people driving Tesla who can acknowledge the merits of other EVs.
I don’t understand why these conversations always seem adversarial.
I took an e-Tron 55 because it met my needs better than any equivalently priced Tesla (Lease). I still think Tesla’s are good and just recommended to my brother that he looked into a M3P.
I’m sure there are people driving Tesla who can acknowledge the merits of other EVs.
I don’t understand why these conversations always seem adversarial.
theboss said:
Some very polarised views on here.
I took an e-Tron 55 because it met my needs better than any equivalently priced Tesla (Lease). I still think Tesla’s are good and just recommended to my brother that he looked into a M3P.
I’m sure there are people driving Tesla who can acknowledge the merits of other EVs.
I don’t understand why these conversations always seem adversarial.
totally. if the answer isn't 'Tesla', its deemed to be wrong.I took an e-Tron 55 because it met my needs better than any equivalently priced Tesla (Lease). I still think Tesla’s are good and just recommended to my brother that he looked into a M3P.
I’m sure there are people driving Tesla who can acknowledge the merits of other EVs.
I don’t understand why these conversations always seem adversarial.
sambucket said:
jason61c said:
agreed. however I had a M3P for a month, speed aside, its not a premium car.
Tell us more!For me tech, charging and performance were higher priorities after a string of well built but ultimately dull German cars so from that viewpoint it is a premium product.
ntiz said:
sambucket said:
Oh man. It's so worth it.
You will note the total lack of naysayers who actually own a modern Tesla.
Total and utter rubbish!You will note the total lack of naysayers who actually own a modern Tesla.
I could right you a 10 page essay on why both mi e and my father Tesla’s have been crap!
Plenty of hacked off owners and ex owners on the Facebook group.
Like the ones having to replace the central computer because it falling apart after a few years and the charging throttled back.
Although in the world EVs they are still miles ahead with the charging network. Just turn up plug in, always works never been left high and dry by the network.
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