Tesla 3 Performance vs. I-Pace S
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The old system was what really put me off the iPace.
Got to say as an M3P driver who superchargers very rarely if I could get into a 21My iPace HSE for the same money I'd be very tempted. Looks great, plenty quick and the HSE spec is very good (Windsor leather heated + cooled seats, gesture tailgate, Matrix headlights etc.). Be a lovely car to spend time with I'm sure.
Got to say as an M3P driver who superchargers very rarely if I could get into a 21My iPace HSE for the same money I'd be very tempted. Looks great, plenty quick and the HSE spec is very good (Windsor leather heated + cooled seats, gesture tailgate, Matrix headlights etc.). Be a lovely car to spend time with I'm sure.
gangzoom said:
You need to change your mindset, when go and get a rental car on holiday do you really care about the spec??
Its not your car, its a rental, but a good rental none the less at a massive discount. Treat it purely as cheap transport rather than any kind of ownership proposition to get attached to.
I suspect some people will be paying £100/month+ just on insurance for an iPace. You are getting the car + insurance + tyres for not that much more!!
Don't tick any options, just get one and enjoy very good value motoring for 3 years.
I really don’t agree. If I’m going to spend 45,000 miles in a car over three years I want to be certain it’s the right choice. It’s not like a quick rental whilst on holiday. For obvious reasons I’m worried about long term reliability or residuals like I would be in buying the car. I normally change cars at around the 3 year mark, it’s only the 635d I’ve kept for a long time (nearly 8 years!) but I don’t want to leave that for something that feels wrong for three years.Its not your car, its a rental, but a good rental none the less at a massive discount. Treat it purely as cheap transport rather than any kind of ownership proposition to get attached to.
I suspect some people will be paying £100/month+ just on insurance for an iPace. You are getting the car + insurance + tyres for not that much more!!
Don't tick any options, just get one and enjoy very good value motoring for 3 years.
I won’t miss the extra £100/month very much but equally, it’s a difficult comparison to make!
I know both are cheap, so it’s just a comparison between the two rather than an absolute decision.
I got close to getting an HSE ipace.
They had about 7 ipaces and agree about the lower spec not looking that nice. The bigger wheels on the HSE made a huge difference in looks.
The entertainment system was really slow tho and reminded me of my youngest child’s cheap tablet with the lag it had.
They had about 7 ipaces and agree about the lower spec not looking that nice. The bigger wheels on the HSE made a huge difference in looks.
The entertainment system was really slow tho and reminded me of my youngest child’s cheap tablet with the lag it had.
pghstochaj said:
I don’t want to leave that for something that feels wrong for three years.
I doubt either car will feel wrong, if you are really struggling flip a coin.I suspect as you say though the iPace deal will be gone very quickly, so it'll be a P Model 3....not a bad problem to have
.Blue Oval84 said:
The tech in the 3 will be a bit better, and it'll be noticeably quicker I imagine. But the iPace is undoubtedly the nicer of the two to sit in (and better looking in my opinion but that's in the eye of the beholder I guess)
Do you mind me asking, are those net deduction figures based on higher rate tax?
Comparing the two I didn't think the M3 was noticeably quicker. On paper maybe, I didn't check. The iPace handles better though, and most reviewers seem to agree with me there.Do you mind me asking, are those net deduction figures based on higher rate tax?
Tech wise it's a toss up. You get more buttons in the iPace, the M3 is cleaner and the centre screen is the most responsive I've ever tried. Interior wise though there is no competition, the iPace is in another league. It's much, much quieter too. Well it is if you turn off the stupid fake engine noise.
aestetix1 said:
Blue Oval84 said:
The tech in the 3 will be a bit better, and it'll be noticeably quicker I imagine. But the iPace is undoubtedly the nicer of the two to sit in (and better looking in my opinion but that's in the eye of the beholder I guess)
Do you mind me asking, are those net deduction figures based on higher rate tax?
Comparing the two I didn't think the M3 was noticeably quicker. On paper maybe, I didn't check. The iPace handles better though, and most reviewers seem to agree with me there.Do you mind me asking, are those net deduction figures based on higher rate tax?
Tech wise it's a toss up. You get more buttons in the iPace, the M3 is cleaner and the centre screen is the most responsive I've ever tried. Interior wise though there is no competition, the iPace is in another league. It's much, much quieter too. Well it is if you turn off the stupid fake engine noise.
Having driven both, you are being utterly ridiculous now.
This may sound silly.... but what condition are the roads in around you?
I have M3P, love it, however the 20” wheels and low profile tyres make for a harsh ride, absolute magnets to potholes and as they have no side protection, the alloys are very vulnerable.
Goes like a rocket and handles well though!
I have M3P, love it, however the 20” wheels and low profile tyres make for a harsh ride, absolute magnets to potholes and as they have no side protection, the alloys are very vulnerable.
Goes like a rocket and handles well though!
aestetix1 said:
utter garbage
I would ignore aestetix1 totally he hates elon and tesla and not a fair judge at all.For those prices I would seriously think about the iPace unless you need the range or charging network of the tesla, or want the better tech.
The 3.2s to 60 is fun but the iPace isnt slow. You are renting for a few years so dont need to worry about resale or spec tbh
I guess they dont do the stealth perf 3 in the UK any more?
jimbouk said:
This may sound silly.... but what condition are the roads in around you?
I have M3P, love it, however the 20” wheels and low profile tyres make for a harsh ride, absolute magnets to potholes and as they have no side protection, the alloys are very vulnerable.
Goes like a rocket and handles well though!
Indeed, never had a car with such easy to damage wheels and not my first time running 20's. I will say though that I don't find the ride as harsh as some suggest and the roads where I am aren't the best.I have M3P, love it, however the 20” wheels and low profile tyres make for a harsh ride, absolute magnets to potholes and as they have no side protection, the alloys are very vulnerable.
Goes like a rocket and handles well though!
Definitely an 8/10th's car as above, which is absolutely fine IMHO as you'd have to be mental to push a car with that much performance further than that on the public road anyway.
I've spent time with both and your comments with respect to high quality interior suggest the I-Pace is best suited. Tesla just aren't on par with Jag/BMW/Merc. The Model 3 is definitely a step down on a 6 series, the I-Pace is not.
The Model 3 is undoubtedly faster off the line but for how often you use that I wouldn't personally get enough value from the Model 3 to accept its interior short comings. The I-Pace is still massively fast, getting illegal even quicker wouldn't be my priority over having a nice place to sit and relax. I would however not take the I-Pace in S trim, SE as a minimum. Although the S wheels look a bit rubbish that are impossibly comfy when joined with air suspension, true magic carpet stuff that worked really well on the beaten roads that I use.
HTH
The Model 3 is undoubtedly faster off the line but for how often you use that I wouldn't personally get enough value from the Model 3 to accept its interior short comings. The I-Pace is still massively fast, getting illegal even quicker wouldn't be my priority over having a nice place to sit and relax. I would however not take the I-Pace in S trim, SE as a minimum. Although the S wheels look a bit rubbish that are impossibly comfy when joined with air suspension, true magic carpet stuff that worked really well on the beaten roads that I use.
HTH
SWoll said:
The Model 3 P isn't noticeably quicker and doesn't handle as well as the iPace?
Having driven both, you are being utterly ridiculous now.
Don't be daft. Yes in a straight line it will do 0-60 a little quicker than the iPace but most roads have corners and the corners are the bits that make driving fun. Having driven both I can assure you that the iPace has the better handling, go check some reviews of both for confirmation.Having driven both, you are being utterly ridiculous now.
Maybe you drove the base model SR+ which has a smaller battery and thus less weight. The larger battery ones are a better comparison since presumably if you are comparing with an iPace you were not intending to buy the base model. The iPace comes with a much better suspension even if you don't upgrade it.
aestetix1 said:
SWoll said:
The Model 3 P isn't noticeably quicker and doesn't handle as well as the iPace?
Having driven both, you are being utterly ridiculous now.
Don't be daft. Yes in a straight line it will do 0-60 a little quicker than the iPace but most roads have corners and the corners are the bits that make driving fun. Having driven both I can assure you that the iPace has the better handling, go check some reviews of both for confirmation.Having driven both, you are being utterly ridiculous now.
Maybe you drove the base model SR+ which has a smaller battery and thus less weight. The larger battery ones are a better comparison since presumably if you are comparing with an iPace you were not intending to buy the base model. The iPace comes with a much better suspension even if you don't upgrade it.
Here's the What Car? view on how the 2 compare.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/new-tesla-model-3-vs-...
You're just making yourself look more silly with every post. Happy to stop now or going to keep doubling down?
Let's see..
"Don’t think of the Model 3 as a one-trick pony, though; it really shines on twisty, bumpy B-roads, too. The Performance Upgrade’s lowered suspension helps the car stay incredibly flat through corners, with hardly any body lean. On its 20in wheels with sticky Michelin tyres, sideways grip is fierce and traction out of corners is such that you can deploy plenty of power through the four-wheel drive system with minimal drama.
The I-Pace, by comparison, doesn’t shift its weight with quite as much composure (understandable, since it’s higher-riding), so you’re flung around a bit more through corners. It still handles better than the vast majority of electric cars, though.
The Model 3 has better steering as well."
"Don’t think of the Model 3 as a one-trick pony, though; it really shines on twisty, bumpy B-roads, too. The Performance Upgrade’s lowered suspension helps the car stay incredibly flat through corners, with hardly any body lean. On its 20in wheels with sticky Michelin tyres, sideways grip is fierce and traction out of corners is such that you can deploy plenty of power through the four-wheel drive system with minimal drama.
The I-Pace, by comparison, doesn’t shift its weight with quite as much composure (understandable, since it’s higher-riding), so you’re flung around a bit more through corners. It still handles better than the vast majority of electric cars, though.
The Model 3 has better steering as well."
REALIST123 said:
How long can the same dumb people keep having the same dumb argument?
For Christ’s sake, guys, haven’t you got anything better to do?
I wasn't aware you'd been given the role of PH arbiter? Congratulations, perhaps you'll also stop regularly posting sFor Christ’s sake, guys, haven’t you got anything better to do?
te from now on?Discussion on a discussion forum, what a radical idea..
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