Any new Renault Zoe owners out there?

[HTP99]

Play, Iconic, S-Edition, Gt-Line, when the ADAS camera was removed the range became Iconic, SE-Edition, Gt-Line +.

All bar Play have sat nav, CCS became standard on Gt-Line +, optional on Iconic S/SE-Edition and Gt-Line. 110 on Iconic 110/135 on S/SE-Edition, 135 Gt-Line and Gt-Line +.

About this time last year the range as re-jigged yet again, specification names were changed to "allign with the rest of Europe" Techno with optional CCS (I think all 135), Iconic became top spec with standard CCS and 135 motor. Where it gets more pointless and "why the fk did they do that" core equipment level on both Techno and Iconic were identical, only differences being, CCS standard on GT-Line, larger and darker alloys and weird gold detailing, apart from that, no differences.

Dealers pleaded for 1 high spec ZOE to simplify things, good offers and pricing, of course what did we know!

There are likely to be other minor changes along the line but the above pretty much covers it, I think the ADAS radar reappeared at some point but the naming remained as if they didn't have it, go figure.

Ref if a car has CCS or not, if you can get a look at the charging port, whether a photo or physically, if the CCS bit at the bottom has two "++" moulded into the cover, it doesn't have CCS charging.

Edited by HTP99 on Sunday 22 October 10:46

[Pedaller]

Thanks for the replies guys, it’s very much appreciated. Shows that I shouldn’t doubt the sales people as they were right that Iconic is the lower spec!

As for CCS and non-CCS, I hope that this is straightforward as we have told the dealer that we want CCS and R135. So they are only showing us these cars. We want to spend about £12k (or less), so it’s now a case of choosing trim level vs age vs mileage. For example there was a 19k mile 71 plate GT+ and a 5k mile 71 Iconic for similar money (a few hundred quid in it). Then there is the “sweet spot” option of a 22 plate S Edition with 10k miles for about the same money.

Obviously battery longevity is a future concern, and therefore lower miles are tempting, but 19k miles isn’t at all bad right? It will do approx 10000 miles a year in our ownership, so some good life in it. Choosing the GT+ trim level would at least remove any doubts about what features are fitted…

[Pedaller]

Had a good look at brochures and realising the Iconic is actually pretty well specced. I don't think we need to go any higher up the range. It looks like the S-Edition was on sale for a very, very short amount of time? I don't think it was even around long enough to make it into a brochure. Well I can't find it anyway. It looks like the brochures went from Play / Iconic / GT Line in 2021 straight to Techno / Iconic in 2022.

Main differences with the Iconic vs GT seem to be:
-No rear camera (don't need) (optional)
-No front parking sensors (don't need) (optional)
-Smaller screen but same features as the larger one (optional)
-No auto emergency braking (a little bit bothered by that) (optional)
-No blind spot warning (don't need)
-No electric folding mirrors (nice to have but not a problem)

With some of those being optional, we may find them on an Iconic.

I prefer the fabric seats in the Iconic compared to the "leather" in the GT, and I've had diamond cut alloys before which just corrode, so happy to lose those too. The fabric has a kind of BMW i3 "loft" spec about it. And IMO there is much less need for a heated seat when they are fully fabric. And they burn through the range

Edited by Pedaller on Monday 23 October 18:51

[Merry]

Pedaller said:

-No auto emergency braking (a little bit bothered by that) (optional)

Edited by Pedaller on Monday 23 October 18:51

This is a bit of minefield. It was fitted pretty sporadically even when it was specced due to the chip shortage apparently. The only way to know if its been fitted or not is to look behind the front bumper and check for the option in the drive settings.

Personally I'd look the blindspot detection, anything that makes you more aware of what's around you can't be a bad thing, though it's not like the car is particularly hard to see out of.

[HTP99]

Pedaller said:

Main differences with the Iconic vs GT seem to be:
-No rear camera (don't need) (optional)
-No front parking sensors (don't need) (optional)
-Smaller screen but same features as the larger one (optional)
-No auto emergency braking (a little bit bothered by that) (optional)
-No blind spot warning (don't need)
-No electric folding mirrors (nice to have but not a problem)

With some of those being optional, we may find them on an Iconic.

IIRC, none of those were optional on Iconic save for front sensors which would have been fitted either at dealer or the import centre as an accessory, perhaps very early days into ZE50 ZOE they were options in the brochure then Covid hit and Renault went for a more streamlined "that specification has this, the other has that, if you want more then move up to the higher spec, the only option being a different colour"

[The Rotrex Kid]

HTP99 said:

Pedaller said:

Main differences with the Iconic vs GT seem to be:
-No rear camera (don't need) (optional)
-No front parking sensors (don't need) (optional)
-Smaller screen but same features as the larger one (optional)
-No auto emergency braking (a little bit bothered by that) (optional)
-No blind spot warning (don't need)
-No electric folding mirrors (nice to have but not a problem)

With some of those being optional, we may find them on an Iconic.

IIRC, none of those were optional on Iconic save for front sensors which would have been fitted either at dealer or the import centre as an accessory, perhaps very early days into ZE50 ZOE they were options in the brochure then Covid hit and Renault went for a more streamlined "that specification has this, the other has that, if you want more then move up to the higher spec, the only option being a different colour"

Pretty sure you couldn’t option them. Seem to recall you could only add winter pack and Bose on GT Line at the beginning, that’s it.

GT Line+ is the pick. All the spec, better interior, heated seats and wheel. Iconic spec is just a bit basic and for the small price increase the GT line+ is a better car

[Pedaller]

The Rotrex Kid said:

HTP99 said:

Pedaller said:

Main differences with the Iconic vs GT seem to be:
-No rear camera (don't need) (optional)
-No front parking sensors (don't need) (optional)
-Smaller screen but same features as the larger one (optional)
-No auto emergency braking (a little bit bothered by that) (optional)
-No blind spot warning (don't need)
-No electric folding mirrors (nice to have but not a problem)

With some of those being optional, we may find them on an Iconic.

IIRC, none of those were optional on Iconic save for front sensors which would have been fitted either at dealer or the import centre as an accessory, perhaps very early days into ZE50 ZOE they were options in the brochure then Covid hit and Renault went for a more streamlined "that specification has this, the other has that, if you want more then move up to the higher spec, the only option being a different colour"

Pretty sure you couldn’t option them. Seem to recall you could only add winter pack and Bose on GT Line at the beginning, that’s it.

GT Line+ is the pick. All the spec, better interior, heated seats and wheel. Iconic spec is just a bit basic and for the small price increase the GT line+ is a better car

Ah right, the brochure does say those things were optional but understand the issues with supply in 2021/22! But as I said we are not too fussed that they aren't there, save the AEB.

Each to their own and all that eh Of the cars in front of me (I have a list from the Renault main dealer), an Iconic with about 5000 miles or a GT+ with about 20000 miles of the same age, are the same price. I personally don't think I'd trade 15000 more miles for these largely driver assistance items, the "leather" we dislike and a tiny bit of chrome on the front.

[HughG]

Pedaller said:

Had a good look at brochures and realising the Iconic is actually pretty well specced. I don't think we need to go any higher up the range. It looks like the S-Edition was on sale for a very, very short amount of time? I don't think it was even around long enough to make it into a brochure. Well I can't find it anyway. It looks like the brochures went from Play / Iconic / GT Line in 2021 straight to Techno / Iconic in 2022.

Main differences with the Iconic vs GT seem to be:
-No rear camera (don't need) (optional)
-No front parking sensors (don't need) (optional)
-Smaller screen but same features as the larger one (optional)
-No auto emergency braking (a little bit bothered by that) (optional)
-No blind spot warning (don't need)
-No electric folding mirrors (nice to have but not a problem)

With some of those being optional, we may find them on an Iconic.

I prefer the fabric seats in the Iconic compared to the "leather" in the GT, and I've had diamond cut alloys before which just corrode, so happy to lose those too. The fabric has a kind of BMW i3 "loft" spec about it. And IMO there is much less need for a heated seat when they are fully fabric. And they burn through the range

Edited by Pedaller on Monday 23 October 18:51

I agree with most of that, particularly the cloth seats. The only 4 extra things I’d like to have on my Zoe ZE50 r135 iconic are:
- an outside temperature gauge on the cluster (a crazy omission as when using CarPlay it isn’t visible on the central screen)
- heated seats (it’s supposed to use less electric to warm a seat than the air in the whole car).
- rapid charge
- adaptive cruise (not sure if it even an option, but I think this would be much more useful in an EV than a ICE car)

Edited by HughG on Monday 23 October 21:34

[Bannock]

Urgh, do all GT Lines have leather seats? Yuck. What is the obsession people have thinking leather is luxurious and premium? It's awful - hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and smells dreadful. Velour is the best seat material ever invented, but nobody wants it. Perverse.

[The Rotrex Kid]

Bannock said:

Urgh, do all GT Lines have leather seats? Yuck. What is the obsession people have thinking leather is luxurious and premium? It's awful - hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and smells dreadful. Velour is the best seat material ever invented, but nobody wants it. Perverse.

It's only 'leather' on the sides. The middle sections are some kind of recycled material IIRC. The 'leather' wears better and looks better IMO.

[Bannock]

The Rotrex Kid said:

Bannock said:

Urgh, do all GT Lines have leather seats? Yuck. What is the obsession people have thinking leather is luxurious and premium? It's awful - hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and smells dreadful. Velour is the best seat material ever invented, but nobody wants it. Perverse.

It's only 'leather' on the sides. The middle sections are some kind of recycled material IIRC. The 'leather' wears better and looks better IMO.

Ahh, thanks, that's not so bad then.

[Pedaller]

Thanks to all here who helped us understand the specs of these. Last Saturday we reserved a quartz white (the pearly one) Iconic R135 with rapid charge It’s a 71 plate with 5000 miles. Interestingly it’s an ex-ONTO car. Bristol Street Motors have bought quite a few from ONTO from what I understand. We should be getting it this week, hopefully!