Corsa E 48 test drive

[Mikebentley]

SWoll said:

Mikebentley said:

It was a bit of a lightbulb moment. I’ve had Yank V8’s, Cosworths, Mk1/2 Escorts, Lotus Cortina, TypeR and currently have moderns and an XK140 FHc and Triumph Vitesse. I took the wife and daughter out and they both thought it was great too.

I even found myself following a Sprinter kicking out a really bad smell and thinking to myself how awful it was. I’ve seen the future and it’s actually ok.

Had the same thing when we first got our i3, genuinely makes ICE feel archaic technology for daily duties.

If you enjoyed the immediate go of the Corsa for christ sake don't try a Tesla or you'll be desperately trying to man maths justify another £10k.

Is it only £10k? The go was probably on a par with my old EP3 Type R we got new in 2002 if not more. The sensation is surreal as it is devoid of any extra noise which heightens it. The punch is an EV party trick but the overall experience was very serene with every toy I could want day to day.

[andy43]

Good aren’t they?! Don’t get me wrong, I too need petrol injection on a regular basis but the first experience of the EV concept blew me away too.
Other than range and obviously the cost there literally isn’t a downside.
We leased a Leaf from 2015 and have had an electric car ever since - the reason for our first try at leasing was the nervousness about battery life and residuals. That’s now proven to not really be a problem unless you’re talking Zoe’s with rented batteries.
Now you need to try some other EVs!

[SWoll]

Mikebentley said:

Is it only £10k?

Top sped Corsa Elite Nav rlist at approx £32k but can be had on Autotrader for £30k



Tesla model 3 SR+ £40k

[Mikebentley]

SWoll said:

Mikebentley said:

Is it only £10k?

Top sped Corsa Elite Nav rlist at approx £32k but can be had on Autotrader for £30k



Tesla model 3 SR+ £40k

Surprisingly that. £40k is a bit rich for me at the moment for work. When you consider the extra performance and range and interior space over the Corsa the Model 3 does look a bit of a bargain. I omagine residuals are very strong too which again from a business decision would offset more of the difference too. The Corsa will always be a Corsa whereas I am willing to accept the Tesla has a certain status amongst many car fans and not.

[Cupramax]

There’s brand new Elite Nav spec dealer cars on Autotrader for £25k... although why you’d bother with high spec cars when the basic one has CarPlay/android auto.

[sjg]

I put a basic one through on carwow a couple of weeks ago and the lowest price was just over £23k. They make a lot more sense at that kind of money. Look great in orange too.

[SWoll]

Cupramax said:

There’s brand new Elite Nav spec dealer cars on Autotrader for £25k... although why you’d bother with high spec cars when the basic one has CarPlay/android auto.

I just chose the car with the highest RRP listed as assumed highest spec. If you can get a fully loaded one for £25k then that does make a lot more sense, although at that price I'd still be spending my money at a Peugeot dealer on the e-208.

[Mikebentley]

SWoll said:

Cupramax said:

There’s brand new Elite Nav spec dealer cars on Autotrader for £25k... although why you’d bother with high spec cars when the basic one has CarPlay/android auto.

I just chose the car with the highest RRP listed as assumed highest spec. If you can get a fully loaded one for £25k then that does make a lot more sense, although at that price I'd still be spending my money at a Peugeot dealer on the e-208.

I echo the Peugeot sentiment and I would go for the highest spec because I spend 6/10 hours a day with my car as it is effectively my office. I like to have all the toys.

[Cupramax]

I prefer the design of the Peugeot externally but the dash/steering wheel layout is a massive fail for me. Having the steering wheel in your lap because the instrument binnacle is high up is the stupidest idea ever. I borrowed my cousins new shape 2008 (same dash) the other day to do a tip run and there’s no way I could live with that layout.

Think VW have the best idea with the ID3 by attaching the instruments screen to the steering column so it’s stays central no matter where you have the wheel.

[Smiljan]

The Peugeot and Vauxhall superminis will probably end up being decent private buys in 3 years or so when company drivers move on to something else having taken advatage of the current tax breaks.

Currently though a private buyer spending £25k - £30k on either would have to be doing it for reasons other than cost. Even with good dealer finance offers there are much better internal combustion engined offerings for the same prrce.

As for the ZS EV someone mentioned, it's an oddity and I'm really surprised it's selling so well. If they insisted on full asking price I suspect no one would buy it but they're using the old sales trick of high RRP vs much lower real price to make people think they're getting a bargain.

It's a fast moving area and it'd be wise to wait and see what deals VW offer on entry level ID3 before plumping for a Corsa, sub £30k ID3's could very well be a far better proposition long term than a £25k Corsa.

[Cupramax]

There’s already new ID3 models for £30k on autotrader, they’re lower spec non first editions which were announced last week.

[Smiljan]

There are but try buying one. Dealers are out with their fishing rods trying to hook an order. I tried to get an ID3 test drive at my dealer and havne't heard a peep since the follow up call and promise to arrange, this is despite them having 2 first editions sat in their showroom ready to go.

I'm not sure what they're up to with this car at the moment. Loads of 1st Editions for sale on Autotrader at list price but they really don't look to be worth £40k minus the grant. Better to hurry up and wait than jump in just now.

Lots of new stuff trickling out over the next year and Tesla promising new battery tech, for such a big purchase it pays to be patient.

Edited by Smiljan on Wednesday 28th October 12:11

[dmsims]

Cupramax said:

There’s already new ID3 models for £30k on autotrader, they’re lower spec non first editions which were announced last week.

The sub £30K gives you:

58Kwh battery, 204PS motor

LED headlights, Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Assist, Car2X, Natural Voice Control, parking sensors front and rear, and wheels no smaller than 18 inches in diameter

Discover Pro navigation. The system has a 10-inch touch screen with preloaded European navigation data, 2D or 3D map view, speed limit display, Bluetooth connection for simultaneous pairing of two mobile devices, DAB radio, and two front USB-C sockets

Electrically folding and adjustable mirrors with projection light, and automatically dimming rear-view mirror and rain sensor. Two USB-C ports are fitted in the rear of the car while heated seats and a heated steering wheel are fitted up front.

During Q1 2021 a free software update will enable wireless smartphone charging and App Connect in all ID.3 models.

[Mikebentley]

Interesting times indeed. Going to wait a little and if that means ICE for 12/24 months more then so be it. Good to see the market moving and changing and that can only be positive for the consumer.

[NWMark]

Anyone fancy taking the plunge on a pre-reg for £24.5k

https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-new-cars/vauxha...

I guess its all the 48 test drive cars.

Edited by NWMark on Thursday 29th October 10:27

[Mikebentley]

That’s an interesting price. The one I had was a 69 plate and didn’t have a flat bottom steering wheel so it looks like there have been subtle changes. I think I would prefer the Peugeot Gt though.

[off_again]

Mikebentley said:

SWoll said:

Mikebentley said:

Is it only £10k?

Top sped Corsa Elite Nav rlist at approx £32k but can be had on Autotrader for £30k



Tesla model 3 SR+ £40k

Surprisingly that. £40k is a bit rich for me at the moment for work. When you consider the extra performance and range and interior space over the Corsa the Model 3 does look a bit of a bargain. I omagine residuals are very strong too which again from a business decision would offset more of the difference too. The Corsa will always be a Corsa whereas I am willing to accept the Tesla has a certain status amongst many car fans and not.

The lower end Model 3 pricing is actually very competitive, but usually you can get a higher spec alternative for cheaper than the list price. I know its been mentioned on the Tesla thread about discounts being available on Tesla, I am not so sure. Since you buy direct and there is no 'dealer stuffing' going on, I dont see this happening. Oh, and you might even get better financing from a dealer for a different brand. 35k for a Corsa? Yeah, not seeing that, clearly it can be had cheaper elsewhere and factor in some competitive financing etc, it should be cheaper. Though I am reliably told, the sweet spot (financially) for the Model 3 is the base model with the lowest number of extras you can get away with. Keep it as close to the $36k price (off books special order model) and its a steal in comparison to others. Start to let the price get higher and its less of a compelling argument unless you need the increased performance - which many buyers dont really care about.

[Mikebentley]

Going to watch this market very carefully. It’s no longer “if “ for me it’s only a matter of “”when”. If this means buying a £3k snotter to roll around in for 12 months then so be it.

[kambites]

Mikebentley said:

Going to watch this market very carefully. It’s no longer “if “ for me it’s only a matter of “”when”. If this means buying a £3k snotter to roll around in for 12 months then so be it.

We're in the same position,. Our current family car seems to be on its last legs, but the EV market isn't quite at the point where I want to dip into it yet. We also have the added complication that we're 50/50 on whether we'll be emigrating in a couple of years' time.

[Bobtherallyfan]

That’s my way of thinking too....there’s no where near enough infrastructure for my regular 200 mile cross country drives and I have no intention of having to drink gallons of coffee while I wait 30 mins for a “fast” charge in any case. Sit back, enjoy petrol while we can, let others do the development and then buy when EV is more mainstream.