Replacing my i3, with ??

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MrC986

3,498 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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I’ve an 120ah I3S (now 13 months old) & have done 9.5k miles in it....it’s my first BEV & mine has got front/rear parking & auxiliary heating so very much a lower spec. I’m getting a minimum of 130 miles in the very cold weather & 195 miles in the summer using the pre-conditioning mode when hooked up before heading out & driving it like an electric car rather than a petrol/hybrid.

I found the whole BEV driving experience really relaxing & the torque is immense & enough to seriously annoy people at the traffic lights if you’re inclined wink My mileage has been limited for obvious reasons although I reckon I’ll keep it for another 2 yrs or so (up to about 65k miles) & probably go for a nearly new ID4. I like the clever design of the I3 & the “one pedal” driving style.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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MrC986 said:
I’ve an 120ah I3S (now 13 months old) & have done 9.5k miles in it....it’s my first BEV & mine has got front/rear parking & auxiliary heating so very much a lower spec. I’m getting a minimum of 130 miles in the very cold weather & 195 miles in the summer using the pre-conditioning mode when hooked up before heading out & driving it like an electric car rather than a petrol/hybrid.
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Pretty much exactly twice the distance our current i3 does, which is not surprising as it has twice the battery capacity!


Will be interesting to see how the newer S compares to our current non-s, in the handling and ride stakes, should be picking the car up late next week.
Spent today giving the current one a decent clean, and it seems i3's really wear there age well, other than the peeling inlay blacking in the rear badge, slightly rusty brake disc hubs, and some minor stone chipping on the very bottom of the sills, for a 5 yo car it comes up like practically new!

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 7th March 21:51

Takemeaway

599 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Sorry for the hijack but would a 2015 50k miler be a good purchase to see us through a couple of years driving up to 30 miles of short journeys per day?

Mainly concerned that the battery may degrade. I’ve only just started considering EVs as being a viable option

Also is the back seat big enough for my 10 year old boys?

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Takemeaway said:
Sorry for the hijack but would a 2015 50k miler be a good purchase to see us through a couple of years driving up to 30 miles of short journeys per day?

Mainly concerned that the battery may degrade. I’ve only just started considering EVs as being a viable option

Also is the back seat big enough for my 10 year old boys?
I'd say the back seat is big enough - it's quite comfortable but you can't open the windows.

And if you can charge at home you'll easily manage with that mileage.i can't remember the last time I used a public charging point.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Only two rear seats (car is a four seater) but actually there is a decent amount of room in the back, more than in my E91 3 series!. This is because the designers have compromised on a small boot (sensible in a car with less than 100 miles range).

As mentiioned, rear windows don't open, but i'm not sure in these days of A/C that's and issue, and of course, you have to open front door to let someone out the back. A suprising number of people havent' worked out the front seats include a forwards tilt to help people get out the back, and as longs as you can get the doors wide open, entrance and egress are easy, helped by the highish floor and seat bases (no stooping to load young kids in)


Mine had only done 25k and still have full battery capacity, at 50k miles, i haven;t heard any reports of any serious degredation. As long as you stay away from soing 70, the small battery car will do 60 miles in the worst weather when driven hard with the heating on, so there is room for a fair bit of degredation before it affects your daily requirement.

Be warned though, these cars get under your skin, and you might find you really love the little thing. You most hear people say "but EVs have no character and are boring" but the i3 is very much the exception to the rule, it's fun, and has bags of character, and really is both a unique car and a sure fire future classic too i think :-)

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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New one gets picked up on wednesday, so i thought i'd treat the current i3 to a proper spruce up.

Looks pretty good for a 5 year old car:








Bonus PH points for the (easy) "spot the similarity" question with the grey car in the background ;-)




Chivs

15 posts

165 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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I'm coming to the end of my I3S 120 lease and I'm also struggling to know what to replace it with. For me there's no 'S' or bigger battery version to upgrade to, and I don't want to get an identical car again. I also got a great deal so I'd be paying a lot more for the same if I got another. No option to buy it from BMW (I've asked).

I've loved it and just can't find anything that I'm excited about (without a significant increase in cost). More space would also be handy.

The cheapest Jag Ipace is around £35k but I don't want to spend that much on a used car. I'm currently considering a second hand Leaf as a sensible option, or the MG5 but I'm put off by the lack of charging timer.

Toaster Pilot

14,621 posts

159 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Chivs said:
No option to buy it from BMW (I've asked).
There are ways to do it if you get help from a decent trader - if you actually wanted to.

Arthur at Wisely Automotive has helped a few i3 owners do just that.

On the charging timer issue with the MG - an Ohme smart cable solves those issues, giving control of the timing to the charger.

chandrew

979 posts

210 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Max_Torque said:
er, weight towards the rear? for the BEV? er, nope, it has a pretty much perfect 50:50 mass distribution which is why it is intrinsically so well balanced, and the tyres are skinny at both ends, so no understeer due to them! I find mine almost completely un-affected by wet, what with having hard compound narrow eco tyres, so no aquaplaning, and not a tyre that makes massive grip i the dry. I prefer driving ours in the wet actually :-)

Being tall and low mass, it's certainly badly affected by high speed cross winds, but as long as you don't fight the car, nothing dramatic happens. just relax and alls good. It can be suprisingly flighty at high speeds (up near it's speed limiter) on undulating bumpy roads at high throttle openings, certainly flighty beyond the capability of the DSC to intervene fast enough.

But yes, it is better as a city car (for which environment it was designed) but after 5 years of Fast B road driving, not one car has ever "got away" from my i3, come rain, shine or snow (it's really good in the snow, even on summer tyres because like those bicycle width tyres cut through snow well)
I share these views. I had an early BEV, driving mostly on local Swiss country roads and can't for once remember understeer. I DO remember one moment coming out of a tight corner, on a damp road onto the motorway putting too much power in in a rather cack-handed manner and getting all manner of oversteer which was an absolute handful to control. In that regards it was similar to my old Elise. Most of the time it was a joy - light on its feet, responding well to weight transfer and with enough power to make it interesting.

I had two sets of wheels for the summer / winter tyres. As long as it's relatively flat there is no problem in the snow and I suspect it's better than most RWD cars in this respect.

I got rid of mine as I needed to move to a 1 car garage. We replaced with with a 340i xdrive touring. I remember testing that car and felt the standard car a bit unresponsive compared to the i3 and it was only with the additional performance pack that it came close. I enjoyed driving the i3 far more than the 3 series.

For me it's got 'future-classic' written all over it. I keep one eye open for a 'cross-fade' edition.

Big Nanas

1,371 posts

85 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Here's my lovely i3s in Galvanic Gold I picked up last week.
Im quite smitten already, quite frankly. It's got bags of character and is so much fun to drive.


Toaster Pilot

14,621 posts

159 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Big Nanas said:
Here's my lovely i3s in Galvanic Gold I picked up last week.
Im quite smitten already, quite frankly. It's got bags of character and is so much fun to drive.

Definitely one of those colours that looks so much better than it did in the brochure photos.

dvs_dave

8,645 posts

226 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Max_Torque said:


Bonus PH points for the (easy) "spot the similarity" question with the grey car in the background ;-)
Easy....rear suicide doors!

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Big Nanas said:
Here's my lovely i3s in Galvanic Gold I picked up last week.
Im quite smitten already, quite frankly. It's got bags of character and is so much fun to drive.

I wouldn't normally say i'm a big fan of gold coloured cars, but that looks pretty sharp actually! :-)

Big Nanas

1,371 posts

85 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Max_Torque said:
I wouldn't normally say i'm a big fan of gold coloured cars, but that looks pretty sharp actually! :-)
Thanks!
Ive never had anything quite like this before, and with all the doom and gloom recently I thought a fun bright colour would just be ideal.

I've had so many blue and grey cars before, this was certainly a change.

Although as my 17 year old god-son said: 'gold and black cars are for drug dealers'. Sigh. Ive asked his father to find out how he knows this biggrin

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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dvs_dave said:
Max_Torque said:


Bonus PH points for the (easy) "spot the similarity" question with the grey car in the background ;-)
Easy....rear suicide doors!
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so called

9,090 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I used to do a 50 + 50 mile daily commute in my i3Rex, mainly on duel carriageway.
In the summer, I could be in sight of home before the Rex kicked in. In the winter it would do the last 20 miles or so with Rex.
Did this for about 12 months and thoroughly enjoyed driving it.
Yes the Rex ride is affected by the weight distribution but I never had a big problem with it.

Summer 2019 I traded in for a 2 month old demo i3S and got it for £28k which seemed a good deal.
I love the i3S even more than the i3.
Have actually missed the commute the last 12 months so now I'm always the one volunteering to do the shopping. :-)
Great car and great fun.



Edited by so called on Wednesday 10th March 14:32

aberdeeneuan

1,345 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Been considering one of these at the moment for later in the year. While I don't want to distract from the OP, for all of you who've had them, I'm not up on the specs and options - what should I be looking out for?

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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aberdeeneuan said:
Been considering one of these at the moment for later in the year. While I don't want to distract from the OP, for all of you who've had them, I'm not up on the specs and options - what should I be looking out for?
They seem remarkably reliable. If you want the REX then there are some specific issues with that system but that seems to be about it.

My advice would be to make sure it fits your usage. Personally I don't think the infrastructure is ready for fully electric vehicles to be used on long journeys on a regular basis, but that doesn't seem to stop some people.
If you can charge at home or have access to reliable public charging they are great at what they do.

danp

1,603 posts

263 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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aberdeeneuan said:
Been considering one of these at the moment for later in the year. While I don't want to distract from the OP, for all of you who've had them, I'm not up on the specs and options - what should I be looking out for?
Depends what your budget and usage would be?

Pixelpeep Z4

8,600 posts

143 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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JeffreyD said:
aberdeeneuan said:
Been considering one of these at the moment for later in the year. While I don't want to distract from the OP, for all of you who've had them, I'm not up on the specs and options - what should I be looking out for?
They seem remarkably reliable. If you want the REX then there are some specific issues with that system but that seems to be about it.

My advice would be to make sure it fits your usage. Personally I don't think the infrastructure is ready for fully electric vehicles to be used on long journeys on a regular basis, but that doesn't seem to stop some people.
If you can charge at home or have access to reliable public charging they are great at what they do.
Not that its a massive dealbreaker but it was something that really pissed me off about the rEX version of the i3


road tax.

ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY fkING QUID A YEAR

to put that into prospective - my 310hp 2016 Audi S3 was £160 a year.

just because the range extender engine produces 12g/km co2 - and only when you're using it. the rest of the time the car is 0g . if you don't use the rex you NEVER produce any co2

irritated the life out of me each time it came up for renewal.