Is there an EV Unicorn around the corner?

Is there an EV Unicorn around the corner?

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dmsims

6,527 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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A500leroy said:
annodomini2 said:
A500leroy said:
Your going to drop 30k on a car you dont even really need?
Why wouldnt a 5k Nissan leaf do the same job?
A £5k Nissan leaf, especially a Nissan leaf, will need a new battery.
Thats why the one sat on my mates drive is used to take his kids to school and misses to work every day then?
Think we are losing sight of the OP's requirements of 200 mile range...................

sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Kia Soul 64kwh had a decent price cut to stay within the grant, and between the Kia finance contribution and a bit of dealer discount can be had for just over £30k now. Usual Kia 7 year warranty so a decent long term bet.

New Zoe is good, well equipped, meant to be a big step up quality wise, finally gets CCS but can still do 22kW AC. Comfortably under £30k even for a top spec one. https://www.dsg-renault.co.uk/model.php?type=cars&...

ID.3 is looking very good value though. If you can live with base spec (which still means adaptive cruise, LED lights, heated seats & wheel, wireless carplay/AA, front and rear parking sensors, 100kW charging, etc) then you can be in a mid battery (58kWh) for comfortably under £25k at broker prices. Even if you go for the performance motor and Family spec (nicer seat material, pano roof, fancy matrix lights, reversing camera etc) it's just over £28k.

I'm in a similar boat, eGolf lease ends later in the year, could lease a Leaf or Ioniq cheaply but buying might make sense. Secondhand market feels overheated, way too much demand and not enough supply. The OZEV grant keeps on being cut, wouldn't surprise me if it keeps getting £500 lopped off every year and the price threshold reduced by £5k every budget from here on out.

MOBB

3,617 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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I was also going to mention the Kia Soul

Love it or hate it looks, great power, range and spec

LordFlathead

9,641 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Welshbeef said:
What about a used Tesla

Cheapest appear to be £25k for 312miles and 0-62mph in 5 seconds. 362bhp.

That’s if you even need to spend that much.
This, but pick one with free supercharging for life. That's a lot of car deal for £25k - I'd go towards the £30k then you get a later one with a more reliable screen.

Russ T Bolt

1,689 posts

283 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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SWoll said:
VW ID.3 58kWh Pro Performance. £27k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new...



Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 15th June 22:38
I had an email from DriveThe Deal yesterday offering 22.5% off an ID.3

ID.3 Life Pro Performance 62Kwh at £25,189

exe888

26 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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LordFlathead said:
This, but pick one with free supercharging for life. That's a lot of car deal for £25k - I'd go towards the £30k then you get a later one with a more reliable screen.
by "screen" you mean the MMC chip, which I believe is now a recall item.
Anything around 25k will be starship miles and nearing the end of the drivetrain warranty period.
Dual motor is primarily for efficiency.
Free supercharging is complicated and not guaranteed. Access to the best charging network shouldn't be free in any case.

I reckon for an S you need to be spending near 40k to get decent condition, dual motor and a decent sized battery. Which is almost into model 3 prices.
Model 3 seems to be significantly more efficient wrt range and battery size.


Otispunkmeyer

12,594 posts

155 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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Russ T Bolt said:
SWoll said:
VW ID.3 58kWh Pro Performance. £27k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new...



Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 15th June 22:38
I had an email from DriveThe Deal yesterday offering 22.5% off an ID.3

ID.3 Life Pro Performance 62Kwh at £25,189
We need a EV deals thread on here to collate things like this!

SWoll

18,397 posts

258 months

Friday 18th June 2021
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exe888 said:
LordFlathead said:
This, but pick one with free supercharging for life. That's a lot of car deal for £25k - I'd go towards the £30k then you get a later one with a more reliable screen.
by "screen" you mean the MMC chip, which I believe is now a recall item.
Anything around 25k will be starship miles and nearing the end of the drivetrain warranty period.
Dual motor is primarily for efficiency.
Free supercharging is complicated and not guaranteed. Access to the best charging network shouldn't be free in any case.

I reckon for an S you need to be spending near 40k to get decent condition, dual motor and a decent sized battery. Which is almost into model 3 prices.
Model 3 seems to be significantly more efficient wrt range and battery size.
As posted previously, I wouldn't consider 80-100k 'starship' miles on a 7 year old car, that's only 12-14k per year and we manage that charging on just a 3-pin plug at home 99.9% of the time.

The dual motor 85D is a little more efficient, but for a significant additional cost (20% at least).

Free supercharging is a given on cars of this age from everything I've read (cut off was mid 2017 I believe), and why shouldn't free access be provided?

If you're not covering big mileages regularly and are happy with the performance then long range/big battery/dual motor really aren't necessary. The free supercharging access negates the issue significantly even if you do.

The lack of warranty would worry me though I agree.