Audi Q4 e-tron
Discussion
jason61c said:
It'd be a company lease car so it'll depend on what deal etc.
I've asked for a few guide quotes.
Polestar 2 with heatpump and dual motor or something like this in 50 spec?
Can't see myself ever considering this if they were in similar price brackets tbh, despite the possibly added practicality.I've asked for a few guide quotes.
Polestar 2 with heatpump and dual motor or something like this in 50 spec?
cossey said:
surely it is not so much different to A3 vs Scala or Q3 vs Kodiaq?
On paper the Audi looks to be marginally more efficient (at least for the 4wd version) but I am not sure why (285 miles for Enyaq 80x vs 306 miles for q4 50)
According to the Skoda website the wltp for the enyaq 80 is 333 milesOn paper the Audi looks to be marginally more efficient (at least for the 4wd version) but I am not sure why (285 miles for Enyaq 80x vs 306 miles for q4 50)
Ardennes92 said:
cossey said:
surely it is not so much different to A3 vs Scala or Q3 vs Kodiaq?
On paper the Audi looks to be marginally more efficient (at least for the 4wd version) but I am not sure why (285 miles for Enyaq 80x vs 306 miles for q4 50)
According to the Skoda website the wltp for the enyaq 80 is 333 milesOn paper the Audi looks to be marginally more efficient (at least for the 4wd version) but I am not sure why (285 miles for Enyaq 80x vs 306 miles for q4 50)
In the Bjorn tests it looks like in the real world the penalty for the twin motor version on the motorway is pretty negligible.
Took the 40 for a test drive and was sorely disappointed.
Appreciate it wouldn’t have as much grunt as the P2 but other than the lack of noise it felt remarkably like a petrol car (perhaps that is what they were aiming for?).
Took a xc40 recharge out today and it was considerably better.
Audi now off the list..
Appreciate it wouldn’t have as much grunt as the P2 but other than the lack of noise it felt remarkably like a petrol car (perhaps that is what they were aiming for?).
Took a xc40 recharge out today and it was considerably better.
Audi now off the list..
Meeten-5dulx said:
Took the 40 for a test drive and was sorely disappointed.
Appreciate it wouldn’t have as much grunt as the P2 but other than the lack of noise it felt remarkably like a petrol car (perhaps that is what they were aiming for?).
Took a xc40 recharge out today and it was considerably better.
Audi now off the list..
Probably need to wait and test drive the 50 as closer on price and spec?Appreciate it wouldn’t have as much grunt as the P2 but other than the lack of noise it felt remarkably like a petrol car (perhaps that is what they were aiming for?).
Took a xc40 recharge out today and it was considerably better.
Audi now off the list..
Meeten-5dulx said:
but other than the lack of noise it felt remarkably like a petrol car (perhaps that is what they were aiming for?)
I don't recall exactly where, but I do recall back in the early etron days, that being said about the Audi electric cars, they didn't want to alienate their customers with this new fangled stuff, and so dialled out the instant torque you'd normally expect, nor one pedal driving. So basically you get in, and it drives just like their ICE cars did, and all their customers are happy.S-Line 35 with comfort pack or standard tesla 3 for £50 a month more? (Company car deal)
I’m liking the Q4 yet the dim performance may become a deal breaker. Clearly a test drive will tell yet also welcome PHers view.
Not sure even lying for the 40/50 brings it anywhere near tesla speed.
I’m liking the Q4 yet the dim performance may become a deal breaker. Clearly a test drive will tell yet also welcome PHers view.
Not sure even lying for the 40/50 brings it anywhere near tesla speed.
SWoll said:
Meeten-5dulx said:
Took the 40 for a test drive and was sorely disappointed.
Appreciate it wouldn’t have as much grunt as the P2 but other than the lack of noise it felt remarkably like a petrol car (perhaps that is what they were aiming for?).
Took a xc40 recharge out today and it was considerably better.
Audi now off the list..
Probably need to wait and test drive the 50 as closer on price and spec?Appreciate it wouldn’t have as much grunt as the P2 but other than the lack of noise it felt remarkably like a petrol car (perhaps that is what they were aiming for?).
Took a xc40 recharge out today and it was considerably better.
Audi now off the list..
Add to that the additional cost.
It’s a no for me.
The xc40 was considerably better driving, comfort and performance wise.
Family liked it as well.
Budget may be an issue….
WittyMan said:
S-Line 35 with comfort pack or standard tesla 3 for £50 a month more? (Company car deal)
I’m liking the Q4 yet the dim performance may become a deal breaker. Clearly a test drive will tell yet also welcome PHers view.
Not sure even lying for the 40/50 brings it anywhere near tesla speed.
Tesla just isn’t an option, it might be quick but they’re just a model 3. The 50 will be fast enough. I’m liking the Q4 yet the dim performance may become a deal breaker. Clearly a test drive will tell yet also welcome PHers view.
Not sure even lying for the 40/50 brings it anywhere near tesla speed.
The ionic 5 or polestar 2?
jason61c said:
Tesla just isn’t an option, it might be quick but they’re just a model 3. The 50 will be fast enough.
The ionic 5 or polestar 2?
Ionic 5 isn’t listed for some reason. The ionic 5 or polestar 2?
Polestar May be worth investigating.
What’s wrong with the model 3? Appears the fastest, well speced at standard trim. Smaller Boot but has a frunk
WittyMan said:
jason61c said:
Tesla just isn’t an option, it might be quick but they’re just a model 3. The 50 will be fast enough.
The ionic 5 or polestar 2?
Ionic 5 isn’t listed for some reason. The ionic 5 or polestar 2?
Polestar May be worth investigating.
What’s wrong with the model 3? Appears the fastest, well speced at standard trim. Smaller Boot but has a frunk
The supercharger network is a big bonus as well.
Head says Tesla, but heart says XC40 recharge or Polestar 2.
Guess it's all down to cost. If the Tesla is considerably cheaper, then I may have to make do with the guppy looks. I'll be sitting on the inside ....
The Q4 is 4th in a list of 4.....
Some lower performance EVs are welcome especially for those with less driving experience or who want improved efficiency and decreased insurance costs especially for a car which may be used predominantly for family duties.
My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
theboss said:
Some lower performance EVs are welcome especially for those with less driving experience or who want improved efficiency and decreased insurance costs especially for a car which may be used predominantly for family duties.
My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
You are aware that it is possible to drive a performance EV just as slowly as any other car? In fact with the lack of a gearbox it's a lot easier to do so than in an ICE with less performance IME.My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
Fair enough on insurance costs, although would be interested in seeing the cost difference between a Q4 35 and a Polestar 2 AWD as don't imagine it would be much?
Meeten-5dulx said:
Yes the 50 is more responsive, but you sacrifice range.
Add to that the additional cost.
It’s a no for me.
The xc40 was considerably better driving, comfort and performance wise.
Family liked it as well.
Budget may be an issue….
How did you find road noise/cabin noise compared between the 2? I've read that the audi is very well insulated,which is a big plus for me (not really bothered about 0-60 times).Add to that the additional cost.
It’s a no for me.
The xc40 was considerably better driving, comfort and performance wise.
Family liked it as well.
Budget may be an issue….
caymanbill said:
Meeten-5dulx said:
Yes the 50 is more responsive, but you sacrifice range.
Add to that the additional cost.
It’s a no for me.
The xc40 was considerably better driving, comfort and performance wise.
Family liked it as well.
Budget may be an issue….
How did you find road noise/cabin noise compared between the 2? I've read that the audi is very well insulated,which is a big plus for me (not really bothered about 0-60 times).Add to that the additional cost.
It’s a no for me.
The xc40 was considerably better driving, comfort and performance wise.
Family liked it as well.
Budget may be an issue….
Q4e on Saturday with 2 kids.
XC40R on Sunday with 2 kids and wife.
I can't say for certain that there was a noticable difference in the cabin noise.
All were quiet in comparison to the ICE car that I was in previously (obviously) but there wasn't anything to remind me that the Q4e was any better than the others.
What I did notice was that the lack of sunroof in the Q4e made he interior a much more sombre and gloomy (albeit well finished) place to be - kids noticed that in comparison to the XC40R and I was well aware of the difference compared to the P2
SWoll said:
theboss said:
Some lower performance EVs are welcome especially for those with less driving experience or who want improved efficiency and decreased insurance costs especially for a car which may be used predominantly for family duties.
My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
You are aware that it is possible to drive a performance EV just as slowly as any other car? In fact with the lack of a gearbox it's a lot easier to do so than in an ICE with less performance IME.My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
Fair enough on insurance costs, although would be interested in seeing the cost difference between a Q4 35 and a Polestar 2 AWD as don't imagine it would be much?
Why ever don't the insurance companies think the same way, then I could put my learner wife and my daughter who turns 17 in a few months time on my 400bhp EV and why not the M5 as well.
It would be useful to have a 'crippled' mode for an EV a bit like an extreme eco mode but perhaps enforceable for a given key, so that it would be more suitable for less experienced drivers or learners.
Edited by theboss on Monday 21st June 12:18
theboss said:
SWoll said:
theboss said:
Some lower performance EVs are welcome especially for those with less driving experience or who want improved efficiency and decreased insurance costs especially for a car which may be used predominantly for family duties.
My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
You are aware that it is possible to drive a performance EV just as slowly as any other car? In fact with the lack of a gearbox it's a lot easier to do so than in an ICE with less performance IME.My wife is learning to drive now and whilst there would be some advantages to putting her in an EV from day 1, the last thing she needs is something in insurance group 50 that does 60 in 3 seconds.
Fair enough on insurance costs, although would be interested in seeing the cost difference between a Q4 35 and a Polestar 2 AWD as don't imagine it would be much?
Why ever don't the insurance companies think the same way, then I could put my learner wife and my daughter who turns 17 in a few months time on my 400bhp EV and why not the M5 as well.
TBH it was more a comment on the fact that they are no faster than any other car if you don't want them to be and are very easy to drive at sedate speeds (not so sure about the M5 though).
They are uninsurable yes.
I had the conversation with several insurers when I leased the e-tron last year (55 model / 400bhp / lardy) and it was an absolute no go for anyone who hadn't held a licence for a few years.
And I'm talking about a 30-something female not a 17 year old lad.
In any case the disruption to the driving instruction process caused by the pandemic has put the problem on hold for a year or so. I expect when the time comes I'll either take a low powered EV or a small petrol hatch and treat it as a starter car for a couple of years.
I had the conversation with several insurers when I leased the e-tron last year (55 model / 400bhp / lardy) and it was an absolute no go for anyone who hadn't held a licence for a few years.
And I'm talking about a 30-something female not a 17 year old lad.
In any case the disruption to the driving instruction process caused by the pandemic has put the problem on hold for a year or so. I expect when the time comes I'll either take a low powered EV or a small petrol hatch and treat it as a starter car for a couple of years.
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