Batteries are not the Solution, Synthetic Fuels maybe

[ZesPak]

rscott said:

Motortrend also tested without VHT and with the rolling start (so exactly the same way they test all other vehicles) and got a 0-60 time of 2.07 seconds. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-plaid-over...

So not really 2 seconds then right?? Hang him! Hang him!

[Oilchange]

Brutally fast but lets face it but certainly not real world testing.
And ‘rolling start’? What’s this trickery?
It’s either 0-60 or it isn’t. This isn’t.

[rscott]

Oilchange said:

Brutally fast but lets face it but certainly not real world testing.
And ‘rolling start’? What’s this trickery?
It’s either 0-60 or it isn’t. This isn’t.

Take it up with the entire US motor industry then, if you want them to change their standard way of measuring it.

[Oilchange]

Standard??
It's not is it?
It's not standard to run cars on a drag strip. With glue/VHT stuff.
Twice in 72 years they said.

I'm not denying it's rocket-ship quick but they're not even doing a 0-60, they're doing a 6-60. Which is DIFFERENT.

[Munter]

Oilchange said:

Standard??
It's not is it?
It's not standard to run cars on a drag strip. With glue/VHT stuff.
Twice in 72 years they said.

I'm not denying it's rocket-ship quick but they're not even doing a 0-60, they're doing a 6-60. Which is DIFFERENT.

And?

[ZesPak]

Someone's blood pressure is up.
Should we tell him that they write "colour" without the "u" on that side as well or wait for a better time?

[granada203028]

SWoll said:

Because Elon?

I'm not a fan, and our Tesla will be moving on shortly to be replaced with an EV from another manufacturer, but laying this at Tesla's feet when it's been a common practice for many years in the USA is ridiculous.

I know off topic but why do you want to change?

[rscott]

Oilchange said:

Standard??
It's not is it?
It's not standard to run cars on a drag strip. With glue/VHT stuff.
Twice in 72 years they said.

I'm not denying it's rocket-ship quick but they're not even doing a 0-60, they're doing a 6-60. Which is DIFFERENT.

No, the rollout is STANDARD in US testing. VHT was different, but without that they managed a massively slower.... 2.07 seconds.

[Chris-S]

This sums it up pretty well I think....from the perspective of a respected American publication - Motortrend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAmv2IO9row


And if it's TLDW, the conclusion is Tesla have 'massaged' the figures for a pointless headline, and a much more impressive one was suggested too.

[Dave_Rich]

The bottom line is Tesla has not hit its stated goal of 0-60 in under 2 seconds.

You can obfuscate all you like but the Tesla Model S Plaid cannot hit 0-60 in under 2 seconds, no ifs no buts.

[ZesPak]

Chris-S said:

This sums it up pretty well I think....from the perspective of a respected American publication - Motortrend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAmv2IO9row


And if it's TLDW, the conclusion is Tesla have 'massaged' the figures for a pointless headline, and a much more impressive one was suggested too.

As a lot of people knew, we're really hitting the limits of physics here. A plaid + would have been pointless as it wouldn't be able to accellerate harder.

I'm curious to see what they'll do with the roadster as it'll face similar problems. Aside from handling, it surely can't beat the Plaid in any performance stat?

[Munter]

Dave_Rich said:

The bottom line is Tesla has not hit its stated goal of 0-60 in under 2 seconds.

You can obfuscate all you like but the Tesla Model S Plaid cannot hit 0-60 in under 2 seconds, no ifs no buts.

Ok but....who cares. The people buying them will not care. The people making them will not care. The people selling them will not care. The people who are not doing any of those things will not care.

Which only leaves a certain quality of character that would actually care....

[Dave_Rich]

Munter said:

Ok but....who cares. The people buying them will not care. The people making them will not care. The people selling them will not care. The people who are not doing any of those things will not care.

Which only leaves a certain quality of character that would actually care....

I don't care. I doubt I will ever buy a Tesla and I certainly don't need or want a car that accelerates so quickly. Been there and done that. It is pointless. Okay not a 2 sec 0-60 but a 600hp AMG.

This is more about the claims made by Tesla/Musk which are swallowed whole by the fanboys.

[ZesPak]

Dave_Rich said:

I don't care. I doubt I will ever buy a Tesla and I certainly don't need or want a car that accelerates so quickly. Been there and done that. It is pointless. Okay not a 2 sec 0-60 but a 600hp AMG.

This is more about the claims made by Tesla/Musk which are swallowed whole by the fanboys.

You do realize you're getting worked up about a tenth of a second on a car you clearly have no interest in, right?

[SWoll]

anonymous said:

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You don't think it might have been more about trying to keep ahead of the large manufacturers who are on the verge of releasing BEV's with better range figures? The Mercedes EQS etc.

I doubt fuel cell cars lose them many nights sleep TBH.

[ZesPak]

I don't know where I read it, but I'm fairly certain I did. Didn't Audi say they weren't going to release cars with bigger range as it's simply not necessary?

[Dave_Rich]

ZesPak said:

You do realize you're getting worked up about a tenth of a second on a car you clearly have no interest in, right?

What you don't realise is that I'm not in the slightest bit worked up.

[SWoll]

anonymous said:

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[Dave_Rich]

anonymous said:

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What is it with you people ?

Express and opinion so you must be worked up. I am way too old to be worked up about nonsense like this. There are far more important issues to get worked up about should I choose. I don't choose to, as getting worked up is futile.

Worked up ? No.
Bored ? Probably

[SWoll]

Dave_Rich said:

What is it with you people ?

Express and opinion so you must be worked up. I am way too old to be worked up about nonsense like this. There are far more important issues to get worked up about should I choose. I don't choose to, as getting worked up is futile.

Worked up ? No.
Bored ? Probably

The "you people" comment certainly helps to get your point across I thought.

Anyway, when was the last time synthetic fuels actually got mentioned in the thread?