Kia EV6 vs ioniq 5

[McAndy]

Interesting to see that the Koreans' footprints are smaller than the Teslas' and i4's!

[SWoll]

McAndy said:

Interesting to see that the Koreans' footprints are smaller than the Teslas' and i4's!

Wider though, which is usually the dimension that causes the most day to day challenges (parking, country lanes etc.)

[dmsims]

McAndy said:

Interesting to see that the Koreans' footprints are smaller than the Teslas' and i4's!

Specsavers for you

[McAndy]

dmsims said:

Specsavers for you

Nope. Area is smaller for both the Ioniq and EV6 vs the Y and i4. I'll give you the Model 3, but by <1.7% vs EV6, <1.1% vs Ioniq 5. In the grand scheme of things that are broadly the same size (e.g. not a Mini to a Range Rover!), but from their aesthetics I was still surpised that the "SUV-types" are actually smaller.

SWoll said:

Wider though, which is usually the dimension that causes the most day to day challenges (parking, country lanes etc.)

Agreed. I'd be interested to know how wide a typical parking space is, as there's only 3 cm to the Ioniq, 4 cm to the EV6.

[McAndy]

JonChalk said:

McAndy said:

Pretty daming comparison for Volkswagen. Interesting to note the tester's comment ref. headroom for taller drivers.

These guys agree: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id4/35709...

I have a feeling that's the same article, just with a different colour banner. Both are under the same publishing house, I believe, and share stories/reviews as required.

[JonChalk]

McAndy said:

JonChalk said:

McAndy said:

Pretty daming comparison for Volkswagen. Interesting to note the tester's comment ref. headroom for taller drivers.

These guys agree: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/id4/35709...

I have a feeling that's the same article, just with a different colour banner. Both are under the same publishing house, I believe, and share stories/reviews as required.

You are probably right, I had forgotten the preponderance of copy and paste journalism across that suite of publications.

[SWoll]

McAndy said:

dmsims said:

Specsavers for you

Nope. Area is smaller for both the Ioniq and EV6 vs the Y and i4. I'll give you the Model 3, but by <1.7% vs EV6, <1.1% vs Ioniq 5. In the grand scheme of things that are broadly the same size (e.g. not a Mini to a Range Rover!), but from their aesthetics I was still surpised that the "SUV-types" are actually smaller.

SWoll said:

Wider though, which is usually the dimension that causes the most day to day challenges (parking, country lanes etc.)

Agreed. I'd be interested to know how wide a typical parking space is, as there's only 3 cm to the Ioniq, 4 cm to the EV6.

A spreadsheet. A man after my own heart.

Ours is 4901 x 1904 so 9,331,504. So in answer to your question, not big enough..

[McAndy]

SWoll said:

A spreadsheet. A man after my own heart.

Ours is 4901 x 1904 so 9,331,504. So in answer to your question, not big enough..

Can't beat data

That's not good, given the size of so many family-owned cars these days!

[Oldwolf]

Nice to see the EV6 being recognised


It’s official. The Kia EV6 is the best car on the market. Not only taking home the 2022 What Car? Awards ‘Car of the Year’ it was also crowned ‘Electric SUV of the Year’.

[TheDeuce]

McAndy said:

Agreed. I'd be interested to know how wide a typical parking space is, as there's only 3 cm to the Ioniq, 4 cm to the EV6.

Dunno but often not big enough for these super wide EV's!

The width combined with thicker modern doors (crash protection) makes it impossible in many spaces near me to open the door wide enough to get out - either side.

[ZesPak]

TheDeuce said:

Dunno but often not big enough for these super wide EV's!

The width combined with thicker modern doors (crash protection) makes it impossible in many spaces near me to open the door wide enough to get out - either side.

Cars these days have gotten too big.

I remember having two regular car boxes. The 159 fit pretty well in it, although I had a bit of foam on the back wall to put the car against.
Then I took a Jag XF for a test drive.


Turns out the garage box is 5m, the jag 4m97. Good thing the handle fit the grill of the Jag . I can tell you I stepped inside the first couple of times I closed it just to make sure.

I've moved house since then, gotten a Model S thinking it's about the same length so will be fine. Turns out it's EIGHT CM wider.
FFs why have these cars gotten so wide?
There are multiple parking spots, especially in the Netherlands, I can actually touch the lines on both sides with the tires.

I was very interested in the Aptera


Until I found out.... get this... it's 2m20 wide.

Every year we have a Twizy for maybe a couple of weeks, it's just great how it can fit through any gap.

TL;DR, I've found the width of a car is very important for day to day usability, it looks like both he EV6 and Ioniq 5 are narrower than the Q5 which seems perfectly usable to me.

[dmsims]

I just don't understand the width. Id3 is 20mm narrower than a Golf (great for the lanes) and it's big inside

[kambites]

I parked next to an EV6 in the work car park today and I was quite surprised at how compact it looks. Possibly because it's not as tall as I was expecting.

[TheDeuce]

kambites said:

I parked next to an EV6 in the work car park today and I was quite surprised at how compact it looks. Possibly because it's not as tall as I was expecting.

Yea... several of these EV giants look average sized, especially if they have proportionality large wheels which helps maintain the illusion.

But then viewed next to a 'normal' car..

[TheDeuce]

ZesPak said:

TheDeuce said:

Dunno but often not big enough for these super wide EV's!

The width combined with thicker modern doors (crash protection) makes it impossible in many spaces near me to open the door wide enough to get out - either side.

Cars these days have gotten too big.

I remember having two regular car boxes. The 159 fit pretty well in it, although I had a bit of foam on the back wall to put the car against.
Then I took a Jag XF for a test drive.


Turns out the garage box is 5m, the jag 4m97. Good thing the handle fit the grill of the Jag . I can tell you I stepped inside the first couple of times I closed it just to make sure.

I've moved house since then, gotten a Model S thinking it's about the same length so will be fine. Turns out it's EIGHT CM wider.
FFs why have these cars gotten so wide?
There are multiple parking spots, especially in the Netherlands, I can actually touch the lines on both sides with the tires.

I was very interested in the Aptera


Until I found out.... get this... it's 2m20 wide.

Every year we have a Twizy for maybe a couple of weeks, it's just great how it can fit through any gap.

TL;DR, I've found the width of a car is very important for day to day usability, it looks like both he EV6 and Ioniq 5 are narrower than the Q5 which seems perfectly usable to me.

I hear your pain. I live in a 1000 year old market town and it turns out the founders of the town thoughtlessly and selfishly failed to space the buildings apart sufficiently that two modern EV's can pass without taking off each others wingmirrors.

It does seem that the average width is headed to approx 2m, although as you say, some are narrower which is good as there are places where there really is a maximum width of vehicle before it becomes impractical.

Having said all that, I can't see the trend for bloated cars changing anytime soon...

[kambites]

TheDeuce said:

kambites said:

I parked next to an EV6 in the work car park today and I was quite surprised at how compact it looks. Possibly because it's not as tall as I was expecting.

Yea... several of these EV giants look average sized, especially if they have proportionality large wheels which helps maintain the illusion.

But then viewed next to a 'normal' car..

Well this is parked next to my Elise and didn't look any more huge than anything else does when parked next to an Elise.

[ZesPak]

kambites said:

Well this is parked next to my Elise and didn't look any more huge than anything else does when parked next to an Elise.

But an Elise is huge!

[JonChalk]

kambites said:

TheDeuce said:

kambites said:

I parked next to an EV6 in the work car park today and I was quite surprised at how compact it looks. Possibly because it's not as tall as I was expecting.

Yea... several of these EV giants look average sized, especially if they have proportionality large wheels which helps maintain the illusion.

But then viewed next to a 'normal' car..

Well this is parked next to my Elise and didn't look any more huge than anything else does when parked next to an Elise.

Dropped mine off to be ceramic coated this morning, and there was a bit of a pause as the detailer looked at it, followed by "it's a bit bigger than I thought"......

[McAndy]

So I finally got my lanky butt into an EV6 GT Line (non-S, thus non-panoramic roof) at the weekend. I fitted! 2" of greater headroom compared to the 'S' variant. I suspect that my next car (once used prices drop!) will come down to the preference of my wife between the EV6 and Ioniq 5. (Currently looking like the EV6, at least on external appraisal.)