Kia EV6 vs ioniq 5
Discussion
jimmytheone said:
mrkipling said:
Thanks Mr Kipling!
That is a heavy rake and it makes the boot look small - not helped by the raised floor/under-compartment bit.
Strangely, i think i have the same anxiety about bootspace as others do range - we've got an smax atm and that has spoilt us - in the same way that most people dont need 500 mile range, we dont "need" 700+litres the 5 seat mode in the smax gives but a few times a year its really handy and knowing you can just about chuck anything in the back without the need to pack it is something we should wean ourselves off.
I drive past our local Kia dealer about once a week, i'll keep an eye open for demonstrators so i can have a proper nose about
I'm really enjoying the flexibility benefit of that.
raspy said:
I'm seeing two to three Ioniq 5 cars every day here in London, and all seem to be Uber drivers! Is there something in particular about this vehicle that means private hire drivers would prefer it over other EVs?
Space. Interior is large, and laid out to promote that feeling.
jason61c said:
its a shame AWD orders wouldn't come through till May or later.
Not sure they would meet your range requirement anyway TBH Jason. Seems very similar to the Polestar 2 in that respect so 200 miles in winter going to be a challenge. Big wheels, average drag, quite heavy etc.Test an EV6 this morning for an hour or so and 40-miles.
Leaving aside some the clever tricks like the blind-spot cameras and 360 reversing camera setup, compared to my ID.3 Family:
Pros:
EV6 turns in sharper and rolls less
Much more info on battery state / power consumption available in the EV6
Seats are more comfortable and more supportive
Difference between Eco, Normal and Sport is very noticeable in the EV6 (in the ID.3 it's barely discernible)
Variable regen
Larger battery (obvs)
HUD is great
Looks stunning in the flesh, and way lower than I was expecting
Cons
The cabin is darker, more traditional (I'm in the minority that quite likes the ID.3 interior)
Plus the fact that I can now sell the ID.3 for more than I paid for it January makes it a no-brainer, and the car I placed a deposit on a few weeks ago (Yacht Blue GT Line S RWD, no heat pump) is already on a ship, due early December, rather than February/March first suggested.
Leaving aside some the clever tricks like the blind-spot cameras and 360 reversing camera setup, compared to my ID.3 Family:
Pros:
EV6 turns in sharper and rolls less
Much more info on battery state / power consumption available in the EV6
Seats are more comfortable and more supportive
Difference between Eco, Normal and Sport is very noticeable in the EV6 (in the ID.3 it's barely discernible)
Variable regen
Larger battery (obvs)
HUD is great
Looks stunning in the flesh, and way lower than I was expecting
Cons
The cabin is darker, more traditional (I'm in the minority that quite likes the ID.3 interior)
Plus the fact that I can now sell the ID.3 for more than I paid for it January makes it a no-brainer, and the car I placed a deposit on a few weeks ago (Yacht Blue GT Line S RWD, no heat pump) is already on a ship, due early December, rather than February/March first suggested.
JonChalk said:
Test an EV6 this morning for an hour or so and 40-miles.
Leaving aside some the clever tricks like the blind-spot cameras and 360 reversing camera setup, compared to my ID.3 Family:
Pros:
EV6 turns in sharper and rolls less
Much more info on battery state / power consumption available in the EV6
Seats are more comfortable and more supportive
Difference between Eco, Normal and Sport is very noticeable in the EV6 (in the ID.3 it's barely discernible)
Variable regen
Larger battery (obvs)
HUD is great
Looks stunning in the flesh, and way lower than I was expecting
Cons
The cabin is darker, more traditional (I'm in the minority that quite likes the ID.3 interior)
Plus the fact that I can now sell the ID.3 for more than I paid for it January makes it a no-brainer, and the car I placed a deposit on a few weeks ago (Yacht Blue GT Line S RWD, no heat pump) is already on a ship, due early December, rather than February/March first suggested.
Nice précis. Enjoy!Leaving aside some the clever tricks like the blind-spot cameras and 360 reversing camera setup, compared to my ID.3 Family:
Pros:
EV6 turns in sharper and rolls less
Much more info on battery state / power consumption available in the EV6
Seats are more comfortable and more supportive
Difference between Eco, Normal and Sport is very noticeable in the EV6 (in the ID.3 it's barely discernible)
Variable regen
Larger battery (obvs)
HUD is great
Looks stunning in the flesh, and way lower than I was expecting
Cons
The cabin is darker, more traditional (I'm in the minority that quite likes the ID.3 interior)
Plus the fact that I can now sell the ID.3 for more than I paid for it January makes it a no-brainer, and the car I placed a deposit on a few weeks ago (Yacht Blue GT Line S RWD, no heat pump) is already on a ship, due early December, rather than February/March first suggested.
JonChalk said:
Test an EV6 this morning for an hour or so and 40-miles.
Leaving aside some the clever tricks like the blind-spot cameras and 360 reversing camera setup, compared to my ID.3 Family:
Pros:
EV6 turns in sharper and rolls less
Much more info on battery state / power consumption available in the EV6
Seats are more comfortable and more supportive
Difference between Eco, Normal and Sport is very noticeable in the EV6 (in the ID.3 it's barely discernible)
Variable regen
Larger battery (obvs)
HUD is great
Looks stunning in the flesh, and way lower than I was expecting
Cons
The cabin is darker, more traditional (I'm in the minority that quite likes the ID.3 interior)
Plus the fact that I can now sell the ID.3 for more than I paid for it January makes it a no-brainer, and the car I placed a deposit on a few weeks ago (Yacht Blue GT Line S RWD, no heat pump) is already on a ship, due early December, rather than February/March first suggested.
I'd suspect the £10-15k price difference between the 2 would be considered a con as well. Leaving aside some the clever tricks like the blind-spot cameras and 360 reversing camera setup, compared to my ID.3 Family:
Pros:
EV6 turns in sharper and rolls less
Much more info on battery state / power consumption available in the EV6
Seats are more comfortable and more supportive
Difference between Eco, Normal and Sport is very noticeable in the EV6 (in the ID.3 it's barely discernible)
Variable regen
Larger battery (obvs)
HUD is great
Looks stunning in the flesh, and way lower than I was expecting
Cons
The cabin is darker, more traditional (I'm in the minority that quite likes the ID.3 interior)
Plus the fact that I can now sell the ID.3 for more than I paid for it January makes it a no-brainer, and the car I placed a deposit on a few weeks ago (Yacht Blue GT Line S RWD, no heat pump) is already on a ship, due early December, rather than February/March first suggested.
SWoll said:
I'd suspect the £10-15k price difference between the 2 would be considered a con as well.
Yes, that is a fair and true point 
In truth, if ID.3 charged as fast as the EV6, then I probably wouldn't be changing, but coupled with a change in personal circumstances....
...I looked at ID.4, didn't really do it for me - having owned the ID.3, I couldn't see the value in paying close to £45k for a Family-spec one, given how close they are.
Nothing else floated my boat, until the EV6 turned up.
dmsims said:
Make sure you don't order the base model fridge - Halogens will come as a shock after the Matrix LED's on the Tour
You really are going to keep running with this 'fridge' thing aren't you?Reminds me of that poster who insisted on referring to any eTron products as turds..
SWoll said:
You really are going to keep running with this 'fridge' thing aren't you?
Reminds me of that poster who insisted on referring to any eTron products as turds..
I've actually needed to unlearn my autocorrect "étron" (FR) though Reminds me of that poster who insisted on referring to any eTron products as turds..
. Wasn't that aestetix? Or am I calling out the wrong user?Edited by ZesPak on Friday 22 October 16:37
ZesPak said:
SWoll said:
You really are going to keep running with this 'fridge' thing aren't you?
Reminds me of that poster who insisted on referring to any eTron products as turds..
I've actually needed to unlearn my autocorrect "étron" though Reminds me of that poster who insisted on referring to any eTron products as turds..
. Wasn't that aestetix? Or am I calling out the wrong user?JonChalk said:
SWoll said:
I'd suspect the £10-15k price difference between the 2 would be considered a con as well.
Yes, that is a fair and true point In truth, if ID.3 charged as fast as the EV6, then I probably wouldn't be changing, but coupled with a change in personal circumstances....
...I looked at ID.4, didn't really do it for me - having owned the ID.3, I couldn't see the value in paying close to £45k for a Family-spec one, given how close they are.
Nothing else floated my boat, until the EV6 turned up.
Big question for me is how Kia will get on selling cars in the £40-50k bracket and how well they hold their value over 2-3 years. The high lease prices don't suggest a lot of confidence, but could well be sand bagging of course.
SWoll said:
Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh as they look very impressive on screen. Wasn't taken with the Ioniq 5 when I saw one on the road so hopefully the EV6 better.
Big question for me is how Kia will get on selling cars in the £40-50k bracket and how well they hold their value over 2-3 years. The high lease prices don't suggest a lot of confidence, but could well be sand bagging of course.
Judging by the number of pre-orders / cars with deposits at my local Kia dealer, demand seems to be very strong initially. Quite a few AWDs as well, which are pricier.Big question for me is how Kia will get on selling cars in the £40-50k bracket and how well they hold their value over 2-3 years. The high lease prices don't suggest a lot of confidence, but could well be sand bagging of course.
delta0 said:
Is there a release date yet for the EV6 GT? I only see 2022 at the moment.
Gone very quiet, probably down to the long lead times and chip shortages across the industry as a whole. Of course could also have just been floating it to get attention on the standard car with no intention of it releasing this year?SWoll said:
Gone very quiet, probably down to the long lead times and chip shortages across the industry as a whole. Of course could also have just been floating it to get attention on the standard car with no intention of it releasing this year?
I ordered an EV6 AWD just before Xmas and was told the GT was expected to be qtr 4 2022.No idea how true
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