Bjorn Nyland - Tesla Bjorn's 1000km EV challenge
Discussion
Some of you may know of TB, he's well known in EV YouTube circles and is generally well regarded for his depth of testing and data generation. Often creating videos showing the comparison of several rapid charging EVs, or filling cars with Banana boxes.
Also, he does a 1000km test, and the latest Model 3 is quite an interesting one, achieving the 1000km in 20 minutes longer than the "control" non-EV vehicle, knocking a big chunk (15 minutes) off the e-tron GT with its flatline to 90% charge curve.
Table of results
YouTube Link
https://youtu.be/CPrhudJiD98
The table itself throws up some interesting results, especially the Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh versus 38kWh.
Also, he does a 1000km test, and the latest Model 3 is quite an interesting one, achieving the 1000km in 20 minutes longer than the "control" non-EV vehicle, knocking a big chunk (15 minutes) off the e-tron GT with its flatline to 90% charge curve.
Table of results
YouTube Link
https://youtu.be/CPrhudJiD98
The table itself throws up some interesting results, especially the Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh versus 38kWh.
jason61c said:
What’s more interesting is how close the e-tron is. That must be a massive win for Audi
The Audi has a very, very good charge curve. It's not the fastest top-rate but it sustains 150kW very well. Benefits of 800V battery.Only issue being a non-Tesla can be finding a 150kW charger!
Evanivitch said:
jason61c said:
What’s more interesting is how close the e-tron is. That must be a massive win for Audi
The Audi has a very, very good charge curve. It's not the fastest top-rate but it sustains 150kW very well. Benefits of 800V battery.Only issue being a non-Tesla can be finding a 150kW charger!
tamore said:
temperature
Yep - the etron GT in colder weather was nearly as fast as the Tesla, and faster than other Teslas in similar weather.The BMW looks like thats going to be a cracker given its not that far behind in colder weather notorious for hurting charging speeds
Or maybe it just shows that he's no scientist and its just some rambling "look at me I've data thats not really that comparable". In fairness he can't control the weather but he can decide its a relatively pointless comparison because of that and not do it.
So the conclusion seems to be the car at the top of the list probably isn't
Evanivitch said:
Also, he does a 1000km test, and the latest Model 3 is quite an interesting one, achieving the 1000km in 20 minutes longer than the "control" non-EV vehicle, knocking a big chunk (15 minutes) off the e-tron GT with its flatline to 90% charge curve.
Yes but look at the temperature and weather conditions. If it was a bit warmer and not raining the Audi would probably have drawn level or won.In any case it's an interesting but largely pointless test for 99% of people. More important will be things like how practical the car is for them (the Model 3 is very small compared to many of the others on the list) and what offers are available (nobody pays list price except Tesla owners).
Also the idiotic new yoke and lack of a gear shift in Teslas is a deal breaker for many people.
https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/140888303892722...
https://youtu.be/iWYjMz7eTAU
Evanivitch said:
He's a YouTuber, in Norway. The infrastructure there is world leading, but unfortunately the weather is very seasonal.
But strangely everyone seems to be ignoring that the "best" EV was capable of only taking 20 minutes more to complete a 620 mile journey in similar conditions.
Yes, if you insist on crawling along in both cars then that's going to be the likely outcome. Up the pace to something a bit more sensible and the difference would be greater.But strangely everyone seems to be ignoring that the "best" EV was capable of only taking 20 minutes more to complete a 620 mile journey in similar conditions.
I cruise at 90mph when crossing France. At that speed the last petrol car I did it in, a V8 R8, would need one ten minute stop for petrol, while my Tesla Model S Performance wasn't ever able to manage 200 miles between charges, which meant that rather than taking my preferred route I had to route between chargers, and it took far longer.
My 400 mile trip back on the last day was even more stark, no stops at all for the Audi, compared to a slow enough drive in the Tesla to need only pne stop before Calais, and then finding that the supercharger it had directed me to was in the tunnel terminal, while I was on the ferry.
The net result of that was a crawl to the closest charger in Dover, one and a half hours sitting in an Aldo car park to get enough charge to make the Maidstone supercharger, and then another ten minutes there to get enough charge to get home.
It's why I just can't buy these confected comparisons. I'm a fan of electric vehicles, but as of today they are severely limited for long trips if you just want to go where you want to go.
JonnyVTEC said:
Evanivitch said:
It’s not 800V …
Northernboy said:
Yes, if you insist on crawling along in both cars then that's going to be the likely outcome. Up the pace to something a bit more sensible and the difference would be greater.
I appreciate there's plenty of EV drivers that talk about doing 5miles/kWh at 56mph, but Bjorn is doing the speed limit in both cases. So the idea he should do more "sensible" speeds is quite hilarious 
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