Alarming rise in electricity prices

Alarming rise in electricity prices

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Mr E

21,634 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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TheRainMaker said:
Where do you work that has free power? Someone has to pay for it?
Indeed. But, and this is the important bit, not me.

Gary C

12,489 posts

180 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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cc3 said:
So if Electricity prices are going to rise 30/40% year on year what is that going to do for the push to covert to electric cars? Try going to a switching site and see the dramatic rise in electricity with many small players going bust. We will soon be left with the old cartel

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/energy-data-and-research/...
Lol, 'cartel'

Now that these suppliers have seen how much it really costs to run a generating system, the investment needed that they have benefited from others providing while they drive costs down until it's no longer sustainable, we can see them for the parasites they are.

The electricity market have been manipulated for years and this is the result.

Low carbon, cheap, reliable

Choose two.

plfrench

2,386 posts

269 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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Mr E said:
Indeed. But, and this is the important bit, not me.
I'd keep quiet on that or you'll BIK'd for it biggrin

Mr E

21,634 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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plfrench said:
Mr E said:
Indeed. But, and this is the important bit, not me.
I'd keep quiet on that or you'll BIK'd for it biggrin
Currently fine. I’m sure it’ll change.

isleofthorns

475 posts

171 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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autumnsum said:
Won't this be more worrying for refining petrol/diesel?

EVs might go up from costing £2 a week to £4 a week, no big deal.
run two electric cars, normal 4 bed house... was on 150pm direct debit. now they want 300/pm...

JWH

490 posts

265 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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SWoll said:
How many tyres are you going through?

£500 is going to get you a good set of tyres for a normal EV lasting 20k miles. That's 0.025p per mile.
It's a factor of 100 more than that. 2.5 pence per mile.

autumnsum

385 posts

32 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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isleofthorns said:
run two electric cars, normal 4 bed house... was on 150pm direct debit. now they want 300/pm...
Explain what you mean please.

Earthdweller

13,601 posts

127 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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autumnsum said:
isleofthorns said:
run two electric cars, normal 4 bed house... was on 150pm direct debit. now they want 300/pm...
Explain what you mean please.
Let me guess ?

He was paying £150 pm by direct debit

Supplier now wants £300 pm by direct debit ( presumably for same usage )

isleofthorns

475 posts

171 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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autumnsum said:
isleofthorns said:
run two electric cars, normal 4 bed house... was on 150pm direct debit. now they want 300/pm...
Explain what you mean please.
I mean my usual direct debit used to be 150 a month - now, my electricity contract is up for renewal, and the new quote is for 300 a month...

this is based on running two electric cars and a normal four bed house

sja360

49 posts

108 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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isleofthorns said:
I mean my usual direct debit used to be 150 a month - now, my electricity contract is up for renewal, and the new quote is for 300 a month...

this is based on running two electric cars and a normal four bed house
So how many miles do you get for the additional £150 electric bill?

Hugo Stiglitz

37,175 posts

212 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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As soon as petrol/diesel buyers switch over in bigger numbers with queues to use charging points it'll be just as expensive as fossil fuel.


TheDrownedApe

1,036 posts

57 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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I transferred supplier in June. Just done a comparison quote based on my annual usage and it's roughly £1000 more expensive now a year (£260 v £175 a month).

Holy ste, for once I'm lucky

Hugo Stiglitz

37,175 posts

212 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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TheDrownedApe said:
I transferred supplier in June. Just done a comparison quote based on my annual usage and it's roughly £1000 more expensive now a year (£260 v £175 a month).

Holy ste, for once I'm lucky
How many miles a month do you do

TRIUMPHBULLET

701 posts

114 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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Does anyone think a govt that gets more income from the tax is going to do anything meaningful?
They will blame a competing market and pledge to help the needy (they won't).
Don't be surprised to see VAT/fuel duty go up also.
The events of the last 18 months are finally catching up and the taxpayer is about to get royally reamed.
Covid is running out of steam so China will be the next thing on the agenda needing extra taxes.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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R4 this morning the “experts” were stating that this price hike is here to stay in the gas . Electric market.

They had I think the uswitch CEO/representative on it and they said for the first time ever they are recommending the standard variable rate. As in the price cap is extremely good value but price cap will change again in April…. Who knows what that will be but it will be higher that is a given.

TheDrownedApe

1,036 posts

57 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
How many miles a month do you do
The "EV" cost is negible for my energy usage as 3 of us WFH

Mr E

21,634 posts

260 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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TheDrownedApe said:
The "EV" cost is negible for my energy usage as 3 of us WFH
Running a foundry?

jamei303

3,005 posts

157 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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Suddenly the £92/MWh "dreadful deal" from Hinkley isn't looking so bad for a constant reliable supply.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/21/hinkl...

A shame the government dithered on Hinkley and so many other nuclear options for decades, they still haven't made their mind up about Sizewell C

Who'd have thunk it isn't always windy or that gas prices could be volatile?


Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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jamei303 said:
Suddenly the £92/MWh "dreadful deal" from Hinkley isn't looking so bad for a constant reliable supply.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/21/hinkl...

A shame the government dithered on Hinkley and so many other nuclear options for decades, they still haven't made their mind up about Sizewell C

Who'd have thunk it isn't always windy or that gas prices could be volatile?
With Putin putting the brakes on the Gasprom pipe to Europe and them having subs everywhere around the U.K. & then the bizarre fire on the offshore cable for wind… say no more they are fully engaged with disrupting everything.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,175 posts

212 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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Mr E said:
TheDrownedApe said:
The "EV" cost is negible for my energy usage as 3 of us WFH
Running a foundry?
Bloody ell you must have a/c in every room