Alarming rise in electricity prices
Discussion
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Mr E said:
TheDrownedApe said:
The "EV" cost is negible for my energy usage as 3 of us WFH
Running a foundry?We are 3 ppl and use 7400kwh of leccy a year - seems an awful lot (with no AC units and gas boiler) but idk.
TheDrownedApe said:
yeah i might have been underestimating a little (a lot). Just done some rough calcs and it seems my EV charge is about 20% of my total, so not neglible at all.
We are 3 ppl and use 7400kwh of leccy a year - seems an awful lot (with no AC units and gas boiler) but idk.
To support this, there's three of us in a four bed house, no electric vehicles, I work from home and we have solar panels. We're billed for 5,500kWh per year in electricity and 20,000kWh of gas.We are 3 ppl and use 7400kwh of leccy a year - seems an awful lot (with no AC units and gas boiler) but idk.
We used to be closed to 8,000kWh of electricity, but then we got solar, changed to LED lights and switch from a standard dryer to a heat pump dryer. Combined it's reduced the amount we're billed for a fair bit.
TheDrownedApe said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Mr E said:
TheDrownedApe said:
The "EV" cost is negible for my energy usage as 3 of us WFH
Running a foundry?We are 3 ppl and use 7400kwh of leccy a year - seems an awful lot (with no AC units and gas boiler) but idk.
How many miles are you doing for the £60?
Welshbeef said:
TheDrownedApe said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Mr E said:
TheDrownedApe said:
The "EV" cost is negible for my energy usage as 3 of us WFH
Running a foundry?We are 3 ppl and use 7400kwh of leccy a year - seems an awful lot (with no AC units and gas boiler) but idk.
How many miles are you doing for the £60?
Major shortage of electricity generation capacity in the U.K. now that coal gone. Wind is fine if you get the weather same as solar. In the meantime industry that supports millions of jobs will be at risk once their energy contracts lapse. Inflation is going to go through the roof as everything will get passed on to the consumer. Shame they didn’t build more nuclear it looks cheap now!
Mr E said:
plfrench said:
Mr E said:
Indeed. But, and this is the important bit, not me.
I'd keep quiet on that or you'll BIK'd for it 
cc3 said:
Major shortage of electricity generation capacity in the U.K. now that coal gone. Wind is fine if you get the weather same as solar. In the meantime industry that supports millions of jobs will be at risk once their energy contracts lapse. Inflation is going to go through the roof as everything will get passed on to the consumer. Shame they didn’t build more nuclear it looks cheap now!
Plus the main cable supplying electricity from France, not sure how much, 5-10% of UK consumption?, caught on fire (no word of how this happened, accident or what?) and repairs will only complete next March, which.boombang said:
This unfortunately changed already at my work. We now pay £2.20 for a token to give 4 hours at 7.2kw (unless someone else plugs in other side then halves). BIK was blamed.
No BIK impact according to hmrc? (At least for full electric?)https://www.gov.uk/expenses-and-benefits-electric-...
prand said:
Plus the main cable supplying electricity from France, not sure how much, 5-10% of UK consumption?, caught on fire (no word of how this happened, accident or what?) and repairs will only complete next March, which.
Why, as a country, have we left ourselves in the position where we need to import power from other countries? Why don't we have enough power stations and we can't we be the ones exporting it to other countries?TheBinarySheep said:
prand said:
Plus the main cable supplying electricity from France, not sure how much, 5-10% of UK consumption?, caught on fire (no word of how this happened, accident or what?) and repairs will only complete next March, which.
Why, as a country, have we left ourselves in the position where we need to import power from other countries? Why don't we have enough power stations and we can't we be the ones exporting it to other countries?And why would you invest in capital intense projects if the end result is more expensive than buying the excess from the French?
As a country we've done more than most to fill the seas with wind turbines andhave a fair amount of green production which is great when its windy.
Heres Johnny said:
Because nobodies wants a nuclear power station built in their back garden, and governments aren't that bothered as they take 20 years to build and they won't be in power when it comes on stream
And why would you invest in capital intense projects if the end result is more expensive than buying the excess from the French?
As a country we've done more than most to fill the seas with wind turbines andhave a fair amount of green production which is great when its windy.
I guess I never though that people wouldn't want one of their doorstep having lived with one 10 miles away for the last 20 year or so. I remember doing schools trips to the power station when I was younger.And why would you invest in capital intense projects if the end result is more expensive than buying the excess from the French?
As a country we've done more than most to fill the seas with wind turbines andhave a fair amount of green production which is great when its windy.
The power station near us was supposed to close back in 2009, but it was extended to 2014, then extended again until 2019 and now it's been extended once more to 2024. I think it's been given the go-ahead to build new reactors as well, although I don't think anything has come of that yet. According to Wikipedia it only provides 2% of the UK's electricity anyway, so I doubt it'll be too sorely missed if it does eventually shut down.
TheBinarySheep said:
Why, as a country, have we left ourselves in the position where we need to import power from other countries? Why don't we have enough power stations and we can't we be the ones exporting it to other countries?
There should be continuous committees that are not subject to the whim of ‘winner take all’ elections (in fact we should have elections every three years, for a third or a quarter of parliament). These should oversee long term development and investment in Health, Education, Utilities.TheBinarySheep said:
Heres Johnny said:
Because nobodies wants a nuclear power station built in their back garden, and governments aren't that bothered as they take 20 years to build and they won't be in power when it comes on stream
And why would you invest in capital intense projects if the end result is more expensive than buying the excess from the French?
As a country we've done more than most to fill the seas with wind turbines andhave a fair amount of green production which is great when its windy.
I guess I never though that people wouldn't want one of their doorstep having lived with one 10 miles away for the last 20 year or so. I remember doing schools trips to the power station when I was younger.And why would you invest in capital intense projects if the end result is more expensive than buying the excess from the French?
As a country we've done more than most to fill the seas with wind turbines andhave a fair amount of green production which is great when its windy.
The power station near us was supposed to close back in 2009, but it was extended to 2014, then extended again until 2019 and now it's been extended once more to 2024. I think it's been given the go-ahead to build new reactors as well, although I don't think anything has come of that yet. According to Wikipedia it only provides 2% of the UK's electricity anyway, so I doubt it'll be too sorely missed if it does eventually shut down.
I think the real issue here though is our planning laws that mean it takes 20 years to get planning approval for something (and people objecting doesn't help) and then another 15 years to build it. Then funding issues and half way through the process the company building it inflate the price and there's nothing you can do because you're 12 years into the process.
The French aren't happy with us at the moment over the submarine issue and Australia so they probably torched one of the cables themselves, not enough to cut us off completely but enough to charge us more for less.
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