ID-3: is it just me?

[5s Alive]

Nothing wrong with the ID3 but having driven it and the Kona Electric I prefer the latter over the ground up EV design of the VW even given the limitations of an ICE conversion and the arguably low rent interior.

Also tried the most recent gen. Leaf and was surprised to find no reach adjustment on the steering wheel and I find that I can't drive far with my knees directly under my chin. I was hoping for more range this time round too.

I'm now considering either the BMW 128ti or the 64Kwh Kona electric.
Don't laugh, a decade ago it was between a Freelander HSE and the 3rd gen. Prius!

I already know the dyed in the wool PH'er choice.

[ajap1979]

dmsims said:

Soft touch plastics do not make a good car

https://evo.co.uk/volkswagen/id.3

Even the PH review is complimentary…

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/volkswa...

[Astacus]

I don’t think anyone is saying that on its own is the measure of a good car. As I said above, I have no doubt it’s technically competent, but that isn’t all I am looking for. I want to feel like I am somewhere …. God I don’t know I am struggling with the vocabulary here, “special”, no thats foolish for a family car, “somewhere that I feel good in…, for the money…” I dunno what ever, but this ain’t it. I kinda feel like I would be driving a VAG platform with a Vauxhall body shell. There, I said it. I am a snob. Hell.

[dmsims]

Astacus said:

I don’t think anyone is saying that on its own is the measure of a good car. As I said above, I have no doubt it’s technically competent, but that isn’t all I am looking for. I want to feel like I am somewhere …. God I don’t know I am struggling with the vocabulary here, “special”, no thats foolish for a family car, “somewhere that I feel good in…, for the money…” I dunno what ever, but this ain’t it. I kinda feel like I would be driving a VAG platform with a Vauxhall body shell. There, I said it. I am a snob. Hell.

Well that cleared that up then - what on earth are you trying to say ?

Do you think people feel special (whatever that is) in a Golf ?

Edited by dmsims on Tuesday 12th October 20:01

[anonymous-user]

Astacus said:

I don’t think anyone is saying that on its own is the measure of a good car. As I said above, I have no doubt it’s technically competent, but that isn’t all I am looking for. I want to feel like I am somewhere …. God I don’t know I am struggling with the vocabulary here, “special”, no thats foolish for a family car, “somewhere that I feel good in…, for the money…” I dunno what ever, but this ain’t it. I kinda feel like I would be driving a VAG platform with a Vauxhall body shell. There, I said it. I am a snob. Hell.

BMW i3

The most special "small car" i've ever driven. Ignore the way it looks (if you can lol) and drive it. 99.9% of owners absolutely love their i3's and there's a good reason for that :-)

[mids]

You really are relentless with the i3 pimping

[Astacus]

dmsims said:

Well that cleared that up then - what on earth are you trying to say ?

Do you think people feel special (whatever that is) in a Golf ?

Edited by dmsims on Tuesday 12th October 20:01

Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I did say that special wasn’t the word I was looking for. I like my golf, it may not be “exciting” to drive but at least it feels sold and well built. I don’t feel like anything will come off in my hand. It’s a 2012 car so the infotainment isn’t up to my wife’s 1 series but it reliably plays radio 4. The only complaint I might have is that it doesn’t have climate control, which it ought to have for the price but hay ho.

[ajprice]

Skyrocket21 said:

SWoll said:

BoRED S2upid said:

dmsims said:

Indeed

That’s so much worse than a golf

All subjective, I find the MK8 nose dreadful and much prefer the ID3 personally.

The ID3 interior is not good however. Very fisher price/Vtech.

You just need to accessorise and add some more function and much need colour.

The white and orange interior isn't standard...

[Astacus]

Max_Torque said:

BMW i3

The most special "small car" i've ever driven. Ignore the way it looks (if you can lol) and drive it. 99.9% of owners absolutely love their i3's and there's a good reason for that :-)

I must admit the interior of the i3 is much better. But 158 miles is well down on benchmark these days. I’d have to be able to get down to my Mums on one charge ( about 100 miles) in all weathers and be able to charge it up with a basic charger before heading home. Any car that claims 158 probably does more like 125 with winter motorway driving and that’s getting marginal for me.

[Astacus]

ajprice said:

The white and orange interior isn't standard...

Thank goodness,

[ajap1979]

Astacus said:

ajprice said:

The white and orange interior isn't standard...

Thank goodness,

You can’t even order it anymore, it was a 1st Edition thing.

[5s Alive]

ajap1979 said:

You can’t even order it anymore, it was a 1st Edition thing.

That's a shame. Pimping matters. Apparently...

[JonnyVTEC]

ZesPak said:

VAG solved this by just leaving a recess where the seats are for the Taycan/GT platform:

In the back seats yes…

[dmsims]

Astacus said:

Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I did say that special wasn’t the word I was looking for. I like my golf, it may not be “exciting” to drive but at least it feels sold and well built. I don’t feel like anything will come off in my hand.

That's exactly how the ID3 feels, solid, well built and nothing rattles. It's superior to the Golf in every respect except for knobs (if that's your thing) and some materials. The basic version is very well equipped.

[Byker28i]

ajprice said:

The white and orange interior isn't standard...

Thats the interior I saw - it looked good, plenty of space as well.

[Om]

ajap1979 said:

If PH was a car it would be a diesel Astra.

Harsh. But fair. Although with some of the comments here, perhaps a diesel Zafira?

[ajprice]

Om said:

ajap1979 said:

If PH was a car it would be a diesel Astra.

Harsh. But fair. Although with some of the comments here, perhaps a diesel Zafira?

Or a Sintra?

[Astacus]

Byker28i said:

ajprice said:

The white and orange interior isn't standard...

Thats the interior I saw - it looked good, plenty of space as well.

It looks fine from that angle and in that colour. Maybe if I had seen that first, I might not have taken against it so thoroughly

[Robscim]

Byker28i said:

Cough - TVR Cerbera with Recaro Start seats...

Some of us have both (well without the Recaros!!!)

Thankfully my small children are now old enough to drive me back from the pub in their cars!

I just need the garage to get the engine finished being re-built in the Cerbera and I think I have the winner!!

I quite like my ID.3!! I'll get my coat!!

Cheers

Rob

[annodomini2]

JonnyVTEC said:

ZesPak said:

VAG solved this by just leaving a recess where the seats are for the Taycan/GT platform:

In the back seats yes…

Tesla don't have the recess, but sit the seats lower and raise your feet