ID-3: is it just me?
Discussion
HTP99 said:
Don't these have quite a few electrical gremlins?
not since 2.1 software came out (6 months ago).I have one and love it. Came after a number of high torque RWD cars too and it does everything i need it to do, plus costs me pennies to run. It looks fine to me from most angles although the front is very bland compared to it's forthcoming siblings
foreverme said:
caseys said:
I've had a mk3, mk4, mk6 and mk7 golf.
I've also then been driving an EV for the past 3 years. And was then on the market to buy so I went and test drove the ID3 and the ID4.
The UI in it is... substandard. The fact that the little display behind the wheel only displays certain info and you can't pick what goes on it when it should be software driven/defined is again not up to standard.
The regen in it is pretty poor, as is the fact you can't one-pedal drive it like some other EVs. In fact it seems all the German brands have decided this (EQC/EQA, Porsche, Audi and VW) - which for me basically ruled them out as one-pedal driving is so much easier in traffic. The Taycan is a very accomplished car, the EQC400 also a nice place to be, but they drive like old ICE cars and don't fully take advantage of what a BEV can exploit.
The space in the ID4 seemed pretty good. The speed of the ID4 GTX was frankly disappointing.
I do though, as a stop gap between my currently EV and my new EV showing up, have a monthly lease ID3, as price point wise for the space and the range it gives, it's alright. But as a car to have for years? No thanks..
You can one foot drive like all over EV's, it has two options on the stalk, D and B i think, one is the regen and one foot EV like mode the other stand auto drive...I've also then been driving an EV for the past 3 years. And was then on the market to buy so I went and test drove the ID3 and the ID4.
The UI in it is... substandard. The fact that the little display behind the wheel only displays certain info and you can't pick what goes on it when it should be software driven/defined is again not up to standard.
The regen in it is pretty poor, as is the fact you can't one-pedal drive it like some other EVs. In fact it seems all the German brands have decided this (EQC/EQA, Porsche, Audi and VW) - which for me basically ruled them out as one-pedal driving is so much easier in traffic. The Taycan is a very accomplished car, the EQC400 also a nice place to be, but they drive like old ICE cars and don't fully take advantage of what a BEV can exploit.
The space in the ID4 seemed pretty good. The speed of the ID4 GTX was frankly disappointing.
I do though, as a stop gap between my currently EV and my new EV showing up, have a monthly lease ID3, as price point wise for the space and the range it gives, it's alright. But as a car to have for years? No thanks..
Edited by caseys on Monday 4th October 09:33
Yes it’ll regen, but you can’t one pedal drive it like you can a leaf, i3 or Tesla. Or at least that’s what I found in test driving both
Edit : yes there is auto hold, but you have to tap the brake pedal for that do you not? Every time? So again, it’s not one pedal driving in how I’d explain it to someone - being able to drive somewhere, with stop and start traffic without having to ever use/tap/press another pedal or anything else but the throttle pedal.
Edited by caseys on Monday 4th October 14:09
The most powerful version with the middle battery is £230pm including maintenance, servicing and tyres through Hitachi.
For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
ChocolateFrog said:
The most powerful version with the middle battery is £230pm including maintenance, servicing and tyres through Hitachi.
For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
How does a Kona compare?For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
ChocolateFrog said:
The most powerful version with the middle battery is £230pm including maintenance, servicing and tyres through Hitachi.
For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
A bit disingenuous there perhaps? What deposit, length of contract and mileage does that cover?For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
In a way, that’s part of what disappoints me. There is little else right now that will do a reasonable distance.
But my real frustration is that manufacturers (well designers I suppose) take the opportunity of this new technology to reimagine the motor vehicle in such uninspiring ways.
Of course we might expect something new given the opportunities presented by the new platforms. We get a higher seating position and more space that should be great, but why the awful uninspiring exteriors and the frankly cheap and nasty interiors. And why the obsession with boxy designs (BMWi3) . Surely the design world knows what a beautifully designed car looks like.
But my real frustration is that manufacturers (well designers I suppose) take the opportunity of this new technology to reimagine the motor vehicle in such uninspiring ways.
Of course we might expect something new given the opportunities presented by the new platforms. We get a higher seating position and more space that should be great, but why the awful uninspiring exteriors and the frankly cheap and nasty interiors. And why the obsession with boxy designs (BMWi3) . Surely the design world knows what a beautifully designed car looks like.
Astacus said:
In a way, that’s part of what disappoints me. There is little else right now that will do a reasonable distance.
But my real frustration is that manufacturers (well designers I suppose) take the opportunity of this new technology to reimagine the motor vehicle in such uninspiring ways.
Of course we might expect something new given the opportunities presented by the new platforms. We get a higher seating position and more space that should be great, but why the awful uninspiring exteriors and the frankly cheap and nasty interiors. And why the obsession with boxy designs (BMWi3) . Surely the design world knows what a beautifully designed car looks like.
Personally I don’t want a higher seating position, get me as low as possible but I agree with the rest.But my real frustration is that manufacturers (well designers I suppose) take the opportunity of this new technology to reimagine the motor vehicle in such uninspiring ways.
Of course we might expect something new given the opportunities presented by the new platforms. We get a higher seating position and more space that should be great, but why the awful uninspiring exteriors and the frankly cheap and nasty interiors. And why the obsession with boxy designs (BMWi3) . Surely the design world knows what a beautifully designed car looks like.
The ID3 is dumpy, the i3 looks horrific (we have them at work, horrible to drive too). Teslas look rotund too and have awful interiors. The Hyundai Ioniq looks good in photos but gopping in the metal, it’s huge. So far the only purpose-built electric car I like is the Polestar 2 which disguises its bulk well with neat styling.
As for ‘surely the design world knows’…look on the roads and notice how the vast majority of people drive hideous sh*tboxes…
Edited by LightningBlue on Monday 4th October 15:08
I love it when PH has parody posts. People thinking the Golf is an iconic car ZesPak said:
ChocolateFrog said:
The most powerful version with the middle battery is £230pm including maintenance, servicing and tyres through Hitachi.
For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
How does a Kona compare?For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
Even the ID4 was something like double the price.
I assume it was one of those offers similar to the £250 Golf R's a few years ago. My guess is that VW are stimulating demand to keep the factory running efficiently.
SWoll said:
ChocolateFrog said:
The most powerful version with the middle battery is £230pm including maintenance, servicing and tyres through Hitachi.
For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
A bit disingenuous there perhaps? What deposit, length of contract and mileage does that cover?For that we're not expecting much other than cheap transport.
That said 200PS or whatever it is shouldn't be exactly slow and I'm sure it'll be quiet and comfortable enough.
I don't think there's anything else that can touch that for white goods motoring at the moment.
3 years.
10000 miles.
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