EV's ranked by efficiency

[SWoll]

The OP appears to have removed all of his posts in the thread. How odd.

[JD]

Heres Johnny said:

One group of peoples ratings on one side, another set on the other. I got bored trying to be more specific but I have added lines to try and connect them where I can

I think we can safely safe the idea that these things contain actual information is misplaced

Anecdotal testing like this will always produce garbage results.

If only there was a universally agreed upon standard testing procedure that could be used to compare the cars against one another?

[Heres Johnny]

JD said:

Anecdotal testing like this will always produce garbage results.

If only there was a universally agreed upon standard testing procedure that could be used to compare the cars against one another?

As you know there is a standard - just few agree it’s useful. Some manufacturers design to get a good score but poor real world, and others do the other which is why some fall well short of the rated range and others exceed it.

I’ve no answer, nor has the industry and we all live different lives - I live rurally and my average speed is almost certainly north of 40mph, live in London and it’s likely to be under 30z

[Scrimpton]

My Ioniq 38 is averaging 4.8 over the last 9 months and 10,000 miles. My journey to work has been anything from 6.4 in the summer to 4.3 recently with heating, lights and wipers all going.

[so called]

Scrimpton said:

My Ioniq 38 is averaging 4.8 over the last 9 months and 10,000 miles. My journey to work has been anything from 6.4 in the summer to 4.3 recently with heating, lights and wipers all going.

That's very good.
I could get 5 summer 4 winter from my i3S.

[ZesPak]

TMS, easily over 3 in good conditions. Closer to 2.5 when it's very cold.

[Maracus]

TM3 SR, over the last 21 months and 13000 miles I'm averaging 262 w/m, so 3.8m/KW

[SWoll]

eTron 55 since June.

[Scrimpton]

so called said:

Scrimpton said:

My Ioniq 38 is averaging 4.8 over the last 9 months and 10,000 miles. My journey to work has been anything from 6.4 in the summer to 4.3 recently with heating, lights and wipers all going.

That's very good.
I could get 5 summer 4 winter from my i3S.

It is clearly a very efficient car but it's also a perfect route for EV efficiency with 30 miles of A roads at around 40-50mph.

[so called]

Scrimpton said:

so called said:

Scrimpton said:

My Ioniq 38 is averaging 4.8 over the last 9 months and 10,000 miles. My journey to work has been anything from 6.4 in the summer to 4.3 recently with heating, lights and wipers all going.

That's very good.
I could get 5 summer 4 winter from my i3S.

It is clearly a very efficient car but it's also a perfect route for EV efficiency with 30 miles of A roads at around 40-50mph.

Mine was based on a 100 mile daily commute with 90 miles being duel carriageway.
But then I was driving with the trucks at around 60mph.

[TheRainMaker]

so called said:

But then I was driving with the trucks at around 60mph.

So not really real world for most then

[off_again]

kurokawa said:

This

For all the years I spend in my i3, doing the same journey throughout the year, the efficiency could vary between 2.3X mile/kWh to 3.5x mile/kWh

the traffic, the road condition, the weather, how i drive, have i pre-condition too many factors that affect the efficiency

Yup, same here. Don’t commute, so can’t compare directly, but see anything from 2.8 to 3.8 miles/kW. Though I would say that each time I reset the meter, I am shocked at how low it goes, only for it to gradually rise to a consistent 3.8 over a few weeks. I have to say, I am not confident it’s accurate.

Got a 200 mile round trip tomorrow though, so I will reset it and see. Should give me some good numbers that I can stand behind.

[Richyboy]

When you consider all the functionality of the teslas (the screen, cameras, interior workings etc) are they the most efficient?

[page3]

Scrimpton said:

My Ioniq 38 is averaging 4.8 over the last 9 months and 10,000 miles. My journey to work has been anything from 6.4 in the summer to 4.3 recently with heating, lights and wipers all going.

The Ioniq 38 efficiency is bonkers. Truly witchcraft. Our Model 3 can’t get close. A shame Hyundai are going SUV like everyone else, with the corresponding efficiency reduction.

[SWoll]

Richyboy said:

When you consider all the functionality of the teslas (the screen, cameras, interior workings etc) are they the most efficient?

When you consider the overall package including the practicality and performance offered then the Model 3 is pretty much as good as it gets. Some of the smaller, lower power EV's will be more efficient but as the Ioniq5/EV6 have proven even the Korean manufacturers struggle once they up the size/weight and amount of go.

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page3 said:

The Ioniq 38 efficiency is bonkers. Truly witchcraft. Our Model 3 can’t get close. A shame Hyundai are going SUV like everyone else, with the corresponding efficiency reduction.

Low power, low weight (small battery), low drag = very efficient but slow and low overall range. If the Model 3 SR+ had 135hp and a 38kWh battery I'd fancy it's chances of matching or bettering the Ioniq?

Our i3 120ah had better performance and range than the Ioniq from the same battery size?

Edited by SWoll on Thursday 9th December 17:24

[raspy]

SWoll said:

eTron 55 since June.

2.5 is good! I got 2.1 m/kwh over 900 miles in November. That's driving with a light foot. Some days, driving in London, even a 25 mile journey, I would end up with 1.4 m/kwh for the entire trip.

[SpeckledJim]

raspy said:

SWoll said:

eTron 55 since June.

2.5 is good! I got 2.1 m/kwh over 900 miles in November. That's driving with a light foot. Some days, driving in London, even a 25 mile journey, I would end up with 1.4 m/kwh for the entire trip.

were you driving a space ship?

[SWoll]

SpeckledJim said:

raspy said:

SWoll said:

eTron 55 since June.

2.5 is good! I got 2.1 m/kwh over 900 miles in November. That's driving with a light foot. Some days, driving in London, even a 25 mile journey, I would end up with 1.4 m/kwh for the entire trip.

were you driving a space ship?

Certainly sounds like one at low speeds.

[anonymous-user]

so called said:

That's very good.
I could get 5 summer 4 winter from my i3S.

My is3 is noticably significantly higher consumption than my old non "s" i3!

Wider tyres and geometry set up for more grip at the expense of higher rolling resistance, and i think with the bigger battery capacity, BMW have allowed a higher average cabin heating / cooling load in everything but ecomode, because with the old tiny 22kWh (just 18 useable) battery in my old car, every last Wh mattered, whereas with nearly 40 kWh the current one can afford to be a bit more profligate and still get you to your destination most days :-)

Best i ever achieved with my non-s was 6.8 ml/kWh on a 30 mile B road trip in the height of summer, stuck mostly behind a row of caravans. With my S i can get down to around 2.5 ml.kWh but at that point the motor/inverter goes into thermal limitation so you can't really ever do worse than this.........

[curley]

I had a BMW i4 M50 for an hour today , fully loaded inc 20inch wheels .

I managed 2.2M/KW that compares with the 4.0M/KW i am getting out of my i3

Not a scientific comparison and I would probably get more away from a test drive but i think single motor ,19inch wheels would be the way to go on the i4.