Enyaq IV Options

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robbieduncan

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Sunday 26th December 2021
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I’m interested in selling our current Passat GTE to get a BEV. The only estate is the MG which I really don’t like so it’s an SUV of some sort (a saloon won’t work for us so Model 3 is a non-starter)

I quite like the look of the Enyaq and am planning to go to a dealer in the next few days to hopefully see one in the metal. Mostly range is a non-issue. Maximum normal journey is 50-60 miles round trip max. But infrequently I do need to do a 3-400 mile trip

Is the 80 worth it over the 60? Range is a bit better but charge rate is massively better. I think the charge rate is more important. But would a 60 with the updated 100kw charging make sense?

In terms of options our current car had ACC and 360 cameras. We have agreed we won’t change to car without these. Which seems to mean Assisted Drive basic and Parking Plus as a minimum. I’d also want the heat pump I think. Parking Plus means one of the two Convenience packages too. Anything else worth considering?

I’d happily have a lightly used one but they don’t seem to exist with the spec I want so may have to be new. Any ideas on lead times?

ajap1979

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Sunday 26th December 2021
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Wouldn’t bother with the heat pump. Have a search around a few of the VW forums, users report very limited benefit. In fact VW refunded early customers who specced it due to it’s ineffectiveness. I’d be going with the 60 with options, unless you absolutely need the range on a regular basis.

robbieduncan

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Sunday 26th December 2021
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It looks like they reduced the option price of the heat pump from 1250 to 1000 and refunded the difference. But it still makes a difference. Although in the typical temperature ranges in the UK not as much as, say, Scandinavia

On the online configurator I can’t see an option to add 100kw charging to the 60 model. 50kw charging would be a significant limitation for longer trips especially when couples with less range

mdk1

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210 months

Sunday 26th December 2021
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robbieduncan said:
It looks like they reduced the option price of the heat pump from 1250 to 1000 and refunded the difference. But it still makes a difference. Although in the typical temperature ranges in the UK not as much as, say, Scandinavia

On the online configurator I can’t see an option to add 100kw charging to the 60 model. 50kw charging would be a significant limitation for longer trips especially when couples with less range
100Kw chargig is std on the 60 now.
We have a 60 on order with quite a few options, and still was cheaper than the 80. For us the 60 will cover all our needs as a second car, But will be using it for the odd long trip just to see how we get on,

robbieduncan

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Sunday 26th December 2021
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mdk1 said:
100Kw chargig is std on the 60 now.
That certainly makes the 60 much more desirable and a more workable proposition. Either will require at least 1 stop for the longer trips we do so fast charging is a real need. It also makes the various demonstrators with 50Kw charging being offered for January sale much less appealing

mdk1

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Sunday 26th December 2021
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Yes some of the “used” Cars with lower charging are ok if you only charge at home.
Skoda Factory are on shutdown till the 10th January,and waiting list is quite long, we ordered at the end of November and still not been given a build week,
Sales guy was very open and said he was unsure how long we would have to wait, possibly June next year, although on Some forums the have been coming through a little quicker.

ajap1979

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Sunday 26th December 2021
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robbieduncan said:
It looks like they reduced the option price of the heat pump from 1250 to 1000 and refunded the difference. But it still makes a difference. Although in the typical temperature ranges in the UK not as much as, say, Scandinavia
It makes a difference, but if that difference is only 5% at sub zero temperatures then you’ve got to weigh up whether it’s worth the money in the UK. Nothing I’ve read makes it a desirable option, yet alone a must have.

robbieduncan

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Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Went to look at an Enyaq at Skoda York. Liked it enough to place an order. 52 week lead time! However the price agreed today is the price we’ll pay when it’s delivered. Expect the price will have gone up by the time it’s delivered

Spec can be finalised later but went for 60 Loft Nav with Parking Plus, Driver Assist Plus, Family Basic, Convenience Basic, Climate Plus and Drive Sport Basic. Think we will also go for metallic blue paint

Have not actually driven one yet! Wanted to get the place in the queue reserved. Will test drive in the coming weeks

mdk1

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Wednesday 29th December 2021
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robbieduncan said:
Went to look at an Enyaq at Skoda York. Liked it enough to place an order. 52 week lead time! However the price agreed today is the price we’ll pay when it’s delivered. Expect the price will have gone up by the time it’s delivered

Spec can be finalised later but went for 60 Loft Nav with Parking Plus, Driver Assist Plus, Family Basic, Convenience Basic, Climate Plus and Drive Sport Basic. Think we will also go for metallic blue paint

Have not actually driven one yet! Wanted to get the place in the queue reserved. Will test drive in the coming weeks
Nice spec, welcome to the waiting for an Enyaq Club.

kambites

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222 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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A year lead time! yikes

Shows how much demand is out-stripping supply by for mainstream EVs I guess.

LordFlathead

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259 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Model Y.. worth waiting for and you get the network.

ajap1979

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Wednesday 29th December 2021
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LordFlathead said:
Model Y.. worth waiting for and you get the network.
What if you don’t need “the network”?

JonnyVTEC

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176 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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You take the other coloured pill! laugh

LordFlathead

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Wednesday 29th December 2021
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ajap1979 said:
LordFlathead said:
Model Y.. worth waiting for and you get the network.
What if you don’t need “the network”?
Having owned 4 previous EV's I can tell you that at some time you will always wish you had "the network".

Of course if you want to wait and queue for two public chargers which are occupied and can only deliver 50KW; or drive past broken chargers be my guest. Do wonder what the public charger network will be like in another year - the same with the EV market.

No way would I wait a year for a new EV. The technology and choice is changing massively month by month.

robbieduncan

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Thursday 30th December 2021
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Will a Model Y with similar spec (ACC and 360 cameras are the important parts) cost £40k? Will it also not have a massive lead time?

The deal is our £500 deposit is fully returnable up to the point of delivery and we get the car at todays price no matter what the price is raised to by next year. So basically it’s a no-lose situation. If something that is better for us becomes available can just switch to that

Edited by robbieduncan on Thursday 30th December 08:15

ajap1979

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Thursday 30th December 2021
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robbieduncan said:
Will a Model Y with similar spec (ACC and 360 cameras are the important parts) cost £40k? Will it also not have a massive lead time?
Well they start at £55k….

robbieduncan

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Thursday 30th December 2021
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ajap1979 said:
robbieduncan said:
Will a Model Y with similar spec (ACC and 360 cameras are the important parts) cost £40k? Will it also not have a massive lead time?
Well they start at £55k….
It was a somewhat rhetorical question 🙂. I don’t expect a similar sized Tesla to compete on price with a Skoda. Also full 360 parking cameras with above view don’t seem to be an option and we use them a lot on our current car. So for our particular case the Skoda is a better option anyway

ajap1979

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Thursday 30th December 2021
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Yes, lack of area view was one of the reasons I discounted the Model 3. It’s particularly strange given the car has cameras all around it. It also lacks blind spot assist, CarPlay, matrix headlights, and a head up display. Sometimes I’m not sure what this technology is that Teslas are so famous for.

JonnyVTEC

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Thursday 30th December 2021
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ajap1979 said:
Yes, lack of area view was one of the reasons I discounted the Model 3. It’s particularly strange given the car has cameras all around it. It also lacks blind spot assist, CarPlay, matrix headlights, and a head up display. Sometimes I’m not sure what this technology is that Teslas are so famous for.
Hear, hear!

Tech seems to be confused with software that changes ever 5 minutes to “refine” interface or indeed confuse based on V11 update.

Or cells that are thrashed as the customer is the beta tester for durability.

off_again

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Thursday 30th December 2021
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ajap1979 said:
Yes, lack of area view was one of the reasons I discounted the Model 3. It’s particularly strange given the car has cameras all around it. It also lacks blind spot assist, CarPlay, matrix headlights, and a head up display. Sometimes I’m not sure what this technology is that Teslas are so famous for.
Yeah, been confused about that stuff too. Tesla is the 'tech king', when they dont actually fit a whole bunch of obvious and simple things. Weird.

Personally, I think that the lack of CarPlay (and the same applies to Rivian & Lucid too - so not just Tesla) is a big miss. Its great and works brilliantly, as does Android Auto if you prefer that. Yeah, yeah, the navigation is 'just as good', yet everyone that I know who have Tesla's say its crap. Oh well, guess thats a personal thing.

But I do think that some simple things like blind spot monitoring and that thing that Honda and Kia / Hyundai have is bloody genius. The side mirror camera turns on and shows you the blind spot in your dash - brilliant and such a simple thing. Seriously, why dont other manufacturers do this? And there are other things too, but other than a giant screen and a slick interface for phone connectivity, is it really the 'tech king'?

And on the matrix light thing - its supposed to be coming to Tesla soon, but dont know if its officially available.