545 mile day tomorrow....

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pingu393

7,835 posts

206 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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SWoll said:
Just make sure you set your destination as the supercharger so you get battery warming en-route for best charge speeds
This sounds like an excellent "top tip".

I don't have an EV. I assume the car pre-warms the battery by limiting the cooling. Is there a way to do this manually via the interface, or is it one of those things that needs to be properly electrically controlled with a known end time?

Is it only a Tesla feature?

SWoll

18,458 posts

259 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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pingu393 said:
SWoll said:
Just make sure you set your destination as the supercharger so you get battery warming en-route for best charge speeds
This sounds like an excellent "top tip".

I don't have an EV. I assume the car pre-warms the battery by limiting the cooling. Is there a way to do this manually via the interface, or is it one of those things that needs to be properly electrically controlled with a known end time?

Is it only a Tesla feature?
You just set your destination as the supercharger and the car manages it, no way to start it manually. Only Tesla as far as I'm aware, not sure how much difference it makes though TBH.

pingu393

7,835 posts

206 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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SWoll said:
pingu393 said:
SWoll said:
Just make sure you set your destination as the supercharger so you get battery warming en-route for best charge speeds
This sounds like an excellent "top tip".

I don't have an EV. I assume the car pre-warms the battery by limiting the cooling. Is there a way to do this manually via the interface, or is it one of those things that needs to be properly electrically controlled with a known end time?

Is it only a Tesla feature?
You just set your destination as the supercharger and the car manages it, no way to start it manually. Only Tesla as far as I'm aware, not sure how much difference it makes though TBH.
It sounds like a good idea and would be easy for a programmer to make work for any destination. I can't imagine why it only works for Tesla Supercharger locations rolleyes .

In the absence of a PH "like" button, have a beer

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hmg

563 posts

120 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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What a complete ball-ache this long distance EV driving seems to be.

Stopping and starting, driving miss daisy. No fun at all lol

jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Sat showing 100% and 341 miles of range.

Fingers crossed for 200 at motorway speed

JonnyVTEC

3,006 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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SWoll said:
I'd use use the Hopwood Park Supercharger (M42 JCT 2) both ways assuming M5/M42/M6/M69. 16 bays so unlikely you'll have to wait. Only V2 superchargers so 150kW max but will do the job, the V3's drop very quickly to V2 speeds anyway IME.

Exeter > Hopwood Park Supercharger
Hopwood Park Supercharger > Grantham
Grantham > Lincoln
Lincoln > Nottingham
Nottingham > Hopwood Park Supercharger
Hopwood Park Supercharger > Exeter

Just make sure you set your destination as the supercharger so you get battery warming en-route for best charge speeds. Expect you'll need to do 90% charges each way, and keep your speed to 70-75mph would be my advice.

Good luck. thumbup

ETA - You could do more stops and keep the charge speeds within the fastest point in the curve (0-50% SOC) but in my experience the additional faffing around isn't worth it)


Edited by SWoll on Monday 27th December 20:55
Probably late for the guy but M42 j9-10 is closed until 31st

off_again

12,340 posts

235 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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hmg said:
What a complete ball-ache this long distance EV driving seems to be.

Stopping and starting, driving miss daisy. No fun at all lol
It can be, and yes, it seems really weird to be dropping a ton of cash on a fancy new car, only to be stuck to driving at 55-65 MPH everywhere! However, its not quite like that in reality.

For the vast majority of trips though, its all pretty simple and taking a break every so often is perfectly normal and fair. Not many people can or want to drive 545 miles, non-stop on a single tank of fuel anyway. And to be fair, been doing long distance tours on motorcycles for a while and most of them will struggle to do more than 200 miles on a single tank. Not the same thing, but used to planning stops and making sure I can get fuel.

CheesecakeRunner

3,832 posts

92 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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No need to over think it. Where you’re travelling there’s loads of superchargers, so just bang your day into the nav, with all the waypoints and let it do it’s thing.

If you toggle all chargers display on the nav, you’ll also see a number of third party chargers. Ionity is there, can’t remember the others off the top of my head. But you’ll be fine with Tesla supercharger.

jason61c

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5,978 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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As an update, stopped at hopwood park, about 13 empty chargers, getting 122kw.

Did 150miles to here, at 310 wh/mi. Weather is rubbish!!

Evanivitch

20,161 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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jason61c said:
As an update, stopped at hopwood park, about 13 empty chargers, getting 122kw.

Did 150miles to here, at 310 wh/mi. Weather is rubbish!!
20 mph winds across the country. Might get a cracking tail wind at some point...

jonty88

24 posts

85 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Tail winds, cold temperatures, water on the road, constantly looking at the Charge/range prediction, wasting precious life either looking for chargers (non Tesla) or waiting for the car to charge. This is why my EV travels within an 80 mile radius of my house. It’s just too much of a faff for me, I’d rather pay the price of diesel for long trip convenience, load the 5series touring up with family junk, dog, bikes etc, then put the kids in the car at 8am and do a 250 mile journey with minimal delay and worry.

Glosphil

4,368 posts

235 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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JonnyVTEC said:
Probably late for the guy but M42 j9-10 is closed until 31st
That won't affect him if he is using M42-M6-M69 as M42-J9/10 is north of M6.
We went that way yesterday, in the opposite direction.

aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Oof. Wouldn't want to be stuck in a Model 3 that long.

andy43

9,733 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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CheesecakeRunner said:
If you toggle all chargers display on the nav, you’ll also see a number of third party chargers. Ionity is there, can’t remember the others off the top of my head. But you’ll be fine with Tesla supercharger.
Wow. I hadn't realised it'd show you the other chargers the poor people use. Nice one.
Being able to add way points is a big plus now too, can't believe it took them so long to add that.
Do love a good Tesla thread. 30% of posts useful, the other 70%, errr, not so much hehe

Piginapoke

4,770 posts

186 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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jason61c said:
andy43 said:
Yeah, what car is the important question. And this weather really isn’t helping range!
Tesla model 3, 'long range'. which isn't really that much longer than the normal one.

The cars satnav is racist though so only shows Tesla chargers, not worked out how to get it to show others.
I did 220 miles in a new Tesla LR yesterday, had 60 miles left at the end. You’ll need to navigate via Superchargers I think!

JonnyVTEC

3,006 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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andy43 said:
Wow. I hadn't realised it'd show you the other chargers the poor people use. Nice one.
Being able to add way points is a big plus now too, can't believe it took them so long to add that.
Do love a good Tesla thread. 30% of posts useful, the other 70%, errr, not so much hehe
Poor people who probably own their Taycan’s rather than another white rent-a-Mondeo company car? Love PH some days.

gangzoom

6,314 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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aestetix1 said:
Oof. Wouldn't want to be stuck in a Model 3 that long.
545 miles, a realistic 60mph average speed given traffic, junctions etc thats 9 hrs spent in the car on a bank holiday, am barely out of PJs. If the destination is the Swiss Apls its exciting but sounds like a rather more mundane tour of midlands M/A roads.

Hope it all goes well!

andy43

9,733 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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JonnyVTEC said:
andy43 said:
Wow. I hadn't realised it'd show you the other chargers the poor people use. Nice one.
Being able to add way points is a big plus now too, can't believe it took them so long to add that.
Do love a good Tesla thread. 30% of posts useful, the other 70%, errr, not so much hehe
Poor people who probably own their Taycan’s rather than another white rent-a-Mondeo company car? Love PH some days.
Sorry, I wasn’t clear, I meant poor as in pitied not financially lacking. The people stood outside the entrance to the services glumly holding their mobile phones while staring at a screen on a big white box.
Those people wink

Richard-G

1,676 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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aestetix1 said:
Oof. Wouldn't want to be stuck in a Model 3 that long.
Can i ask why? ive just taken delivery of a 2021 model 3 LR and its really comfy, quiet and serene. The thing nearly drives itself!

Seems like a fantastic car so far so im intertested in hearing why you think it might be hellish?


Diderot

7,336 posts

193 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Evanivitch said:
jason61c said:
As an update, stopped at hopwood park, about 13 empty chargers, getting 122kw.

Did 150miles to here, at 310 wh/mi. Weather is rubbish!!
20 mph winds across the country. Might get a cracking tail wind at some point...
Was nudging 50knts earlier here on the south coast!