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hyphen said:
Is it not a niche that can be catered for by the retro fit ev companies?
Why not just give Croyde a converted 1998 3 series.
Not really. Maybe for some but modern crash protection is a wonderful thing as is the unobtrusive safety tech. And those conversions still retain the gearbox. Why not just give Croyde a converted 1998 3 series.
I took Croyde's thoughts to be along the same line as mine that I'd love a nice modern car where the cabin wasn't full of stuff.
DonkeyApple said:
Not really. Maybe for some but modern crash protection is a wonderful thing as is the unobtrusive safety tech. And those conversions still retain the gearbox.
I took Croyde's thoughts to be along the same line as mine that I'd love a nice modern car where the cabin wasn't full of stuff.
Here you go. One screen for information and controls and pretty much bugger all else. You won't get more minimalist than that in 2022. I took Croyde's thoughts to be along the same line as mine that I'd love a nice modern car where the cabin wasn't full of stuff.
SWoll said:
DonkeyApple said:
Not really. Maybe for some but modern crash protection is a wonderful thing as is the unobtrusive safety tech. And those conversions still retain the gearbox.
I took Croyde's thoughts to be along the same line as mine that I'd love a nice modern car where the cabin wasn't full of stuff.
Here you go. One screen for information and controls and pretty much bugger all else. You won't get more minimalist than that in 2022. I took Croyde's thoughts to be along the same line as mine that I'd love a nice modern car where the cabin wasn't full of stuff.
DonkeyApple said:
Not really. Maybe for some but modern crash protection is a wonderful thing as is the unobtrusive safety tech. And those conversions still retain the gearbox.
I took Croyde's thoughts to be along the same line as mine that I'd love a nice modern car where the cabin wasn't full of stuff.
If you remove the engine and what not, you could rework those areas to strengthen them I would guess?I took Croyde's thoughts to be along the same line as mine that I'd love a nice modern car where the cabin wasn't full of stuff.
DonkeyApple said:
As observed above, the GWiz was pretty much the last time EVs had anything to really do with the global environment.
It's a bit of a shame really as the EV drivetrain lends itself so wonderfully to simplicity and stripping out all the lard the modern consumer craves and seemingly can barely cope without.
Maybe it's a niche that will get filled in coming decades when manufacturers need to compete in more areas than the number of TVs and Saga life support systems they can wedge in.
This seems a bit of a blinkered opinion. It's a bit of a shame really as the EV drivetrain lends itself so wonderfully to simplicity and stripping out all the lard the modern consumer craves and seemingly can barely cope without.
Maybe it's a niche that will get filled in coming decades when manufacturers need to compete in more areas than the number of TVs and Saga life support systems they can wedge in.
Dacia have an EV coming, Ssangyong also have a bargain-basement EV. MG EV's have been around for a while, as has the Nissan Leaf. These are all 'cheap' EVs with a focus on simplicity and economy, no?
Also, have you not been near a new car dealership in the last decade? ICE powered cars are just as responsible for the swathes of LCD screens as EVs. Problem with the latter is the base technology in an EV is still at an early point of mainstream adoption, so the cars are generally more expensive to begin with. I can't imagine marketing say, a Tesla Model 3, for a modest saving over the other models but without all of the interior tech would be a very successful business model.
Once again Pistonheads members deliver on completely missing the current market direction and seem somewhat sheltered from the last two decades.
C.A.R. said:
DonkeyApple said:
As observed above, the GWiz was pretty much the last time EVs had anything to really do with the global environment.
It's a bit of a shame really as the EV drivetrain lends itself so wonderfully to simplicity and stripping out all the lard the modern consumer craves and seemingly can barely cope without.
Maybe it's a niche that will get filled in coming decades when manufacturers need to compete in more areas than the number of TVs and Saga life support systems they can wedge in.
This seems a bit of a blinkered opinion. It's a bit of a shame really as the EV drivetrain lends itself so wonderfully to simplicity and stripping out all the lard the modern consumer craves and seemingly can barely cope without.
Maybe it's a niche that will get filled in coming decades when manufacturers need to compete in more areas than the number of TVs and Saga life support systems they can wedge in.
Dacia have an EV coming, Ssangyong also have a bargain-basement EV. MG EV's have been around for a while, as has the Nissan Leaf. These are all 'cheap' EVs with a focus on simplicity and economy, no?
Also, have you not been near a new car dealership in the last decade? ICE powered cars are just as responsible for the swathes of LCD screens as EVs. Problem with the latter is the base technology in an EV is still at an early point of mainstream adoption, so the cars are generally more expensive to begin with. I can't imagine marketing say, a Tesla Model 3, for a modest saving over the other models but without all of the interior tech would be a very successful business model.
Once again Pistonheads members deliver on completely missing the current market direction and seem somewhat sheltered from the last two decades.
I'd like to think that I had been pretty clear in this regard but very obviously not. Like I would also think that posting in the EV sub forum would not somehow signal that someone isn't aware that electric seat motors aren't available in ICE!
DonkeyApple said:
It would only be blinkered if one foolishly expected an industry to specifically pander to their desires. Likewise, it's not missing the current market direction at all to voice an opinion that you'd like something different.
I'd like to think that I had been pretty clear in this regard but very obviously not. Like I would also think that posting in the EV sub forum would not somehow signal that someone isn't aware that electric seat motors aren't available in ICE!
....What?!I'd like to think that I had been pretty clear in this regard but very obviously not. Like I would also think that posting in the EV sub forum would not somehow signal that someone isn't aware that electric seat motors aren't available in ICE!
You want a manufacturer to target a product at a very bespoke minority who doesn't fit the status quo? Do you realise how silly that sounds? Manufacturers spend millions of pounds on market research into what works and what doesn't to ultimately decide what the buying public want and that's what finds its' way into new cars.
If you're not part of the 'buying public' or target audience for new cars then why stress yourself out by thinking about it?
As for your second paragraph, that makes even less sense.
Donkey by name...
C.A.R. said:
DonkeyApple said:
It would only be blinkered if one foolishly expected an industry to specifically pander to their desires. Likewise, it's not missing the current market direction at all to voice an opinion that you'd like something different.
I'd like to think that I had been pretty clear in this regard but very obviously not. Like I would also think that posting in the EV sub forum would not somehow signal that someone isn't aware that electric seat motors aren't available in ICE!
....What?!I'd like to think that I had been pretty clear in this regard but very obviously not. Like I would also think that posting in the EV sub forum would not somehow signal that someone isn't aware that electric seat motors aren't available in ICE!
You want a manufacturer to target a product at a very bespoke minority who doesn't fit the status quo? Do you realise how silly that sounds? Manufacturers spend millions of pounds on market research into what works and what doesn't to ultimately decide what the buying public want and that's what finds its' way into new cars.
If you're not part of the 'buying public' or target audience for new cars then why stress yourself out by thinking about it?
As for your second paragraph, that makes even less sense.
Donkey by name...
ZesPak said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Silly Q time - where is the speedo?
In the upper left (or right depening on the side of the steering wheel) corner of the screen. Not visibile in the other picture as the car is stationary.
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