Mr Petrol's early thoughts on the move to EV
Discussion
DMZ said:
My wife has an I-Pace and really likes it. It does all the things she wants in a car. It’s luxurious, looks well, it’s sporty, is easy to drive, is magically charged (by me) whenever it’s needed, has plenty of space for family stuff, and with a small environmental footprint.
I’m very impressed with how it drives down a b-road just like The Deuce says. It is strangely enjoyable. But… is it really fun? I can’t really get my head around it. It’s not boring either. Impressive is maybe the word. To me the I-Pace and cars like it are in fact the EV sweet spot. Let’s call them very well specced SUVs with a lot of poke. I had a quick glance at an iX yesterday and it’s smack bang in this territory also and makes a lot of sense to me.
In contrast, I’m not sure about the Taycan. I’m sure it drives a bit better than the I-Pace but is that really going to change anything? A bit faster here and there, big whoopie. In a car like that I think I expect more than just shove and grip. That’s not to say that I won’t write glowingly about a Taycan Sport Turismo another week but then I think we’re back to the luxurious fast family lugger type format with a bit of sportiness on top.
I think we hold the same view on the ipace then - and 'impressive' is a great word to describe why I enjoy the car.I’m very impressed with how it drives down a b-road just like The Deuce says. It is strangely enjoyable. But… is it really fun? I can’t really get my head around it. It’s not boring either. Impressive is maybe the word. To me the I-Pace and cars like it are in fact the EV sweet spot. Let’s call them very well specced SUVs with a lot of poke. I had a quick glance at an iX yesterday and it’s smack bang in this territory also and makes a lot of sense to me.
In contrast, I’m not sure about the Taycan. I’m sure it drives a bit better than the I-Pace but is that really going to change anything? A bit faster here and there, big whoopie. In a car like that I think I expect more than just shove and grip. That’s not to say that I won’t write glowingly about a Taycan Sport Turismo another week but then I think we’re back to the luxurious fast family lugger type format with a bit of sportiness on top.
I can enjoy being impressed by a car as much as I can enjoy wrestling a slightly wayward or basic one. I can enjoy the smoothness and calm of EV as much as I can enjoy the character and soul of an ICE engine note.
Like you, I do genuinely have some fun pushing the IPace down a b-road, probably more than most would believe from such a car. It's definitely not as much fun as a traditional and focused sports car... But then it's not a sportscar. When they do get round to making lighter, sports focused EV's, they'll still feel very different to traditional ICE equivalents but in their own way, I think they could be a lot of fun.
delta0 said:
I’m seeing a lot of I-paces around these days. I think the newer models look better than the early ones too.
Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
I guess that does not mean the won't continue to update the current models as some competitors newer releases proved better/charging options such is the pace of the market.Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
ashenfie said:
delta0 said:
I’m seeing a lot of I-paces around these days. I think the newer models look better than the early ones too.
Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
I guess that does not mean the won't continue to update the current models as some competitors newer releases proved better/charging options such is the pace of the market.Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
delta0 said:
I’m seeing a lot of I-paces around these days. I think the newer models look better than the early ones too.
Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
They don't seem to be doing that well in recent times, sales of i-Pace cars have been declining (these are global figures) Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
Jaguar I-PACE sales:
2018: 6,893
2019: 17,355
2020: 16,457
2021: 9,970
2022 H1: 4,189
Source: https://insideevs.com/news/603134/jaguar-ipace-sal...
raspy said:
delta0 said:
I’m seeing a lot of I-paces around these days. I think the newer models look better than the early ones too.
Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
They don't seem to be doing that well in recent times, sales of i-Pace cars have been declining (these are global figures) Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
Jaguar I-PACE sales:
2018: 6,893
2019: 17,355
2020: 16,457
2021: 9,970
2022 H1: 4,189
Source: https://insideevs.com/news/603134/jaguar-ipace-sal...
raspy said:
delta0 said:
I’m seeing a lot of I-paces around these days. I think the newer models look better than the early ones too.
Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
They don't seem to be doing that well in recent times, sales of i-Pace cars have been declining (these are global figures) Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
Jaguar I-PACE sales:
2018: 6,893
2019: 17,355
2020: 16,457
2021: 9,970
2022 H1: 4,189
Source: https://insideevs.com/news/603134/jaguar-ipace-sal...
S600BSB said:
raspy said:
delta0 said:
I’m seeing a lot of I-paces around these days. I think the newer models look better than the early ones too.
Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
They don't seem to be doing that well in recent times, sales of i-Pace cars have been declining (these are global figures) Jaguar have said they are no longer going to release any new models until 2025 when they will release 3 more electric vehicles
Jaguar I-PACE sales:
2018: 6,893
2019: 17,355
2020: 16,457
2021: 9,970
2022 H1: 4,189
Source: https://insideevs.com/news/603134/jaguar-ipace-sal...
The local dealer said 6 months lead time, that was a couple of weeks ago.
As for declining sales, that does tend to happen as models age, even with a mid life refresh - for JLR it's been a very successful product, all Jags are relatively low volume as Jaguar is actually a very small car manufacturer compared to most others. I can only assume the majority were sold in the UK because I too see them with alarming frequency these days. The newer 'black' edition cars look fantastic
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