Charger cable theft

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AyBee

10,550 posts

203 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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TheDeuce said:
Once the cable is untethered at each end, how exactly will the chain help confused
laugh The kind of person who locks their bike by passing the lock around the seatpost!!

ALPandy90

56 posts

62 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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aestetix1 said:
The cable locks in at either end anyway. The car has a lock, the charger has a lock. To steal the cable the thief has to vandalise the car and charger.
Might be a quirk of my Ford, but I can disconnect the charging cable whilst it is charging, and without needing the keys. Car has an "unlock" button, which switches off the supply and allows the cable to be disconnected.

TheDeuce

21,935 posts

67 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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ALPandy90 said:
aestetix1 said:
The cable locks in at either end anyway. The car has a lock, the charger has a lock. To steal the cable the thief has to vandalise the car and charger.
Might be a quirk of my Ford, but I can disconnect the charging cable whilst it is charging, and without needing the keys. Car has an "unlock" button, which switches off the supply and allows the cable to be disconnected.
Don't you need the key on your person for the unlock button on the car to work?

Heres Johnny

7,245 posts

125 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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The Tesla owners club forum thing had a series of posts a while back about a street in Manchester where cables were regularily stolen, It depends on the charge point but the ones in question either unlocked when charging was complete and/or charging could be stopped easily releasing the cable at that end. Either way that end wasn't secure.

The car end is just a crude plastic wedge. Slide a thin sheet of plastic into the gap along the top of the connector and it will lift the wedge and release the cable. It's not that difficult with a bit of practice, enough to put off casual theft but not to prevent someone who's practiced a bit.. like a thief.

Does it happen a lot? No

Can it happen? Yes

Do some people prefer to laugh at the suggestion in complete ignorance of the facts? Oh yes.






TheDeuce

21,935 posts

67 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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Heres Johnny said:
The Tesla owners club forum thing had a series of posts a while back about a street in Manchester where cables were regularily stolen, It depends on the charge point but the ones in question either unlocked when charging was complete and/or charging could be stopped easily releasing the cable at that end. Either way that end wasn't secure.

The car end is just a crude plastic wedge. Slide a thin sheet of plastic into the gap along the top of the connector and it will lift the wedge and release the cable. It's not that difficult with a bit of practice, enough to put off casual theft but not to prevent someone who's practiced a bit.. like a thief.

Does it happen a lot? No

Can it happen? Yes

Do some people prefer to laugh at the suggestion in complete ignorance of the facts? Oh yes.

Who is laughing at the suggestion? Of course it can and will happen.

People are laughing at the article..

aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
aestetix1 said:
The cable locks in at either end anyway. The car has a lock, the charger has a lock. To steal the cable the thief has to vandalise the car and charger.
like that's going to be a deterrent - I'd imagine that it's potentially easier than swiping cats. As an aside is this 'news' surprising to anyone?

Edited by DodgyGeezer on Monday 21st February 14:08
Having to stand around trying to force a cable out at both ends increases the risk of being caught.

DodgyGeezer

40,621 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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aestetix1 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
aestetix1 said:
The cable locks in at either end anyway. The car has a lock, the charger has a lock. To steal the cable the thief has to vandalise the car and charger.
like that's going to be a deterrent - I'd imagine that it's potentially easier than swiping cats. As an aside is this 'news' surprising to anyone?

Edited by DodgyGeezer on Monday 21st February 14:08
Having to stand around trying to force a cable out at both ends increases the risk of being caught.
and how is that going to be any harder than thefts of cats or even the really speshul types who try live stealing copper cable? Hopefully Darwinism will sort this out - however then there'll be stories about promising young footballers/loveable scamps etc etc lawsuits all over the place as the West sinks further into the morass frown

Mr Miata

968 posts

51 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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TheDeuce said:
At least the police advice is practical. Keep the cable out of site and stay with the car whilst charging.
Is staying in the car going to stop them? Even if you see them, are you going to stand upto them and risk getting hurt?

The police victim blaming again, because it's easier than actually doing their job
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Edited by Mr Miata on Tuesday 22 February 17:39

Knock_knock

573 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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Mr Miata said:
Is staying in the car going to stop them? Even if you see them, are you going to stand upto them and risk getting hurt?

The police victim blaming again, because it's easier than actually doing their job
You think there should be a police officer standing around by every car while it charges? Might be somewhat impractical...

On the other hand taking a tiny bit of care of your own property is quite achievable.

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Mr Miata said:
Is staying in the car going to stop them? Even if you see them, are you going to stand upto them and risk getting hurt?

The police victim blaming again, because it's easier than actually doing their job
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Edited by Mr Miata on Tuesday 22 February 17:39

aestetix1

868 posts

52 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
aestetix1 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
aestetix1 said:
The cable locks in at either end anyway. The car has a lock, the charger has a lock. To steal the cable the thief has to vandalise the car and charger.
like that's going to be a deterrent - I'd imagine that it's potentially easier than swiping cats. As an aside is this 'news' surprising to anyone?

Edited by DodgyGeezer on Monday 21st February 14:08
Having to stand around trying to force a cable out at both ends increases the risk of being caught.
and how is that going to be any harder than thefts of cats or even the really speshul types who try live stealing copper cable? Hopefully Darwinism will sort this out - however then there'll be stories about promising young footballers/loveable scamps etc etc lawsuits all over the place as the West sinks further into the morass frown
Your user name suggests you have some experience in this area.

Fenix Uk

4 posts

27 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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M4cruiser said:
Do come back when it's actually happened. The DM is a rag and hasn't had proper news in for decades.

Smiljan

10,905 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Looks like US crims have found a new source of income too.



I’d imagine theft of granny chargers could be quite lucrative as they can cost a lot of money but no sign of it happening yet, I wonder if battery theft will replace catalytic converter theft in a few years time? I don’t mean crawling under neath and unbolting but maybe stealing cars just for the battery,

Criminals always find a way.

Dave Hedgehog

14,587 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Smiljan said:
Looks like US crims have found a new source of income too.



I’d imagine theft of granny chargers could be quite lucrative as they can cost a lot of money but no sign of it happening yet, I wonder if battery theft will replace catalytic converter theft in a few years time? I don’t mean crawling under neath and unbolting but maybe stealing cars just for the battery,

Criminals always find a way.
more likely in the US that would be done by the driver of a lifted 9ltr diesel truck with confederate and maga stickers on the back who enjoys 'Rollin coal' over Tesla's



Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 23 February 11:58

sparta6

3,704 posts

101 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Smiljan said:
Looks like US crims have found a new source of income too.



I’d imagine theft of granny chargers could be quite lucrative as they can cost a lot of money but no sign of it happening yet, I wonder if battery theft will replace catalytic converter theft in a few years time? I don’t mean crawling under neath and unbolting but maybe stealing cars just for the battery,

Criminals always find a way.
Unfortunately the oiks will steal anything for £5, even a bit of lead flashing
At our London property we had to replace all the ground level flashing with Ubiflex.
How much is a Tesla cable worth ?

Smiljan

10,905 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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£6 a kilo for the copper scrap so not exactly a huge money earner.

sparta6

3,704 posts

101 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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Smiljan said:
£6 a kilo for the copper scrap so not exactly a huge money earner.
Pretty much as I expected. fking oiks

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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aestetix1 said:
The cable locks in at either end anyway. The car has a lock, the charger has a lock. To steal the cable the thief has to vandalise the car and charger.
And why would the thief be worried about that if they're planning to weigh it in?

Saleen836

11,137 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2022
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I heard on the local news a couple days ago thieves have stolen power cables from temporary generators within a couple of hours of them being installed in Fordingbridge while repairs could be carried out!
I guess the scrap value of copper is just too much of a temptation

Dave Hedgehog

14,587 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th February 2022
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Saleen836 said:
I heard on the local news a couple days ago thieves have stolen power cables from temporary generators within a couple of hours of them being installed in Fordingbridge while repairs could be carried out!
I guess the scrap value of copper is just too much of a temptation
probably kids

dont you need to be registered with a photo ID to use a scrap dealers now? you need clear ID and cant be paid cash, only traceable transactions