Cupra Born

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What options are considered essential or are people adding or not adding to make suggested wait times acceptable?

[plfrench]

Cargo pack is the only thing we considered essential in order to get the raised boot floor. Without this, there is a really big step between the boot floor and the seat backs when folded.

[ajap1979]

22 said:

What options are considered essential or are people adding or not adding to make suggested wait times acceptable?

I don't think the omission of any options is going to improve the wait time to be perfectly honest.

[2fast748]

Mark Asread said:

ajap1979 said:

The complaints about the heater controls mainly come from people who haven't spent enough time in an MEB car, they're fine once you're used to them.

Sorry, that's not how usability engineering works. That's Stockholm Syndrome.

Stockholm Syndrome is notting setting in in our house - piece of junk nearly had my fist through it the other night when the Clima button was not doing anything for a few minutes after setting off!

[robemcdonald]

I’m very seriously thinking of getting one as a company car.

I had a look at a few alternatives last week: Tesla 3, Ioniq5, EV6

This was the one that stood out, surprising really as I almost didn’t bother going to see it.

Question is; is the heat pump a must?

I was think about a 77kwh e-boost without the heat pump

Or a 55kwh e-boost with a heat pump.

Why go for the smaller battery you ask. Well it’s half a second quicker to sixty and I’m a bit of an idiot and that matters for some reason.

[ajap1979]

robemcdonald said:

I’m very seriously thinking of getting one as a company car.

I had a look at a few alternatives last week: Tesla 3, Ioniq5, EV6

This was the one that stood out, surprising really as I almost didn’t bother going to see it.

Question is; is the heat pump a must?

I was think about a 77kwh e-boost without the heat pump

Or a 55kwh e-boost with a heat pump.

Why go for the smaller battery you ask. Well it’s half a second quicker to sixty and I’m a bit of an idiot and that matters for some reason.

What's the cost of the heat pump on the Born?

[audi321]

I got an email from the dealer last week. I have a built date of July so delivery mid August. I’ve asked to put back to 1/9 for the new reg.

Can’t wait!

[robemcdonald]

ajap1979 said:

robemcdonald said:

I’m very seriously thinking of getting one as a company car.

I had a look at a few alternatives last week: Tesla 3, Ioniq5, EV6

This was the one that stood out, surprising really as I almost didn’t bother going to see it.

Question is; is the heat pump a must?

I was think about a 77kwh e-boost without the heat pump

Or a 55kwh e-boost with a heat pump.

Why go for the smaller battery you ask. Well it’s half a second quicker to sixty and I’m a bit of an idiot and that matters for some reason.

What's the cost of the heat pump on the Born?

£900 approx

[snorkel sucker]

robemcdonald said:

I’m very seriously thinking of getting one as a company car.

I had a look at a few alternatives last week: Tesla 3, Ioniq5, EV6

This was the one that stood out, surprising really as I almost didn’t bother going to see it.

Question is; is the heat pump a must?

I was think about a 77kwh e-boost without the heat pump

Or a 55kwh e-boost with a heat pump.

Why go for the smaller battery you ask. Well it’s half a second quicker to sixty and I’m a bit of an idiot and that matters for some reason.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the car compared to the others you drove - I also have the same shortlist but the Born is considerably cheaper than the others. I'm also of a similar idiotic mindset to you about the smaller battery, although it did occur to me that I could - in theory - get the larger battery and drive 'enthusiastically' for longer, rather than worry about being quicker 0-60 . . .!

[robemcdonald]

snorkel sucker said:

robemcdonald said:

I’m very seriously thinking of getting one as a company car.

I had a look at a few alternatives last week: Tesla 3, Ioniq5, EV6

This was the one that stood out, surprising really as I almost didn’t bother going to see it.

Question is; is the heat pump a must?

I was think about a 77kwh e-boost without the heat pump

Or a 55kwh e-boost with a heat pump.

Why go for the smaller battery you ask. Well it’s half a second quicker to sixty and I’m a bit of an idiot and that matters for some reason.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the car compared to the others you drove - I also have the same shortlist but the Born is considerably cheaper than the others. I'm also of a similar idiotic mindset to you about the smaller battery, although it did occur to me that I could - in theory - get the larger battery and drive 'enthusiastically' for longer, rather than worry about being quicker 0-60 . . .!

Sounds like we’re on the same wavelength

I’m in the same boat in terms of list with it being cheaper I can get the heat pump, upgraded radio, dynamic chassis stuff.

I really like the interior of the born. All the criticism you hear is about stupid stuff like not being able to see the drive selector while driving, why would you even need to see it? No buttons for the heater! Oh the humanity! My Mercedes’ has buttons and the only time I touch them is after it’s been for a service and someone has fiddled with them.

It all seemed fine to me to be honest and the seat were pretty comfortable.

I’m driving an eboost on Friday, so will report back.

[plfrench]

We went for the smaller battery as we will very (very) rarely need a range greater than it can offer. I would expect, even in the depths of winter, it will still be able to manage 150 miles without trying too hard. We can charge on the drive over night, so just won't need more than that in a day.

If you don't need the range, then you'll be lugging that extra battery weight around all the time for no reason, blunting performance, handling, braking and efficiency.

[robemcdonald]

Test drive yesterday was a little brief and annoyingly wasn’t an e-boost version as requested.

I’m going to contact the fleet company to see if I can get an extended test drive. I really want to test the smaller battery to see if it’s enough. My main concern is that 150 miles in the cold weather might need more than occasional charging stops.

I’m also looking at the Ioniq 5 and EV6. Both seem less of a compromise than the Cupra in terms of space, I just prefer the Born though. I just have a nagging feeling that whatever I spec I will feel I’ve got in wrong.

Basically it will definitely be a V3 e-boost, but do I go for the smaller battery and heat pump or larger battery without?
Or do I say “fk it” and go for the 77kwh with a heat pump and know I’ve got the range thing nailed?

Who would have thought specifying the size of a fuel “tank” would prove such a conundrum….

[JonChalk]

robemcdonald said:

Test drive yesterday was a little brief and annoyingly wasn’t an e-boost version as requested.

I’m going to contact the fleet company to see if I can get an extended test drive. I really want to test the smaller battery to see if it’s enough. My main concern is that 150 miles in the cold weather might need more than occasional charging stops.

I’m also looking at the Ioniq 5 and EV6. Both seem less of a compromise than the Cupra in terms of space, I just prefer the Born though. I just have a nagging feeling that whatever I spec I will feel I’ve got in wrong.

Basically it will definitely be a V3 e-boost, but do I go for the smaller battery and heat pump or larger battery without?
Or do I say “fk it” and go for the 77kwh with a heat pump and know I’ve got the range thing nailed?

Who would have thought specifying the size of a fuel “tank” would prove such a conundrum….

All I can do is provide my view; on my EV6, without heat pump, winter journeys suggest about 10% of the total energy consumption on mid to long journeys, goes on climate, ie heating.
A heat pump will not reduce this to zero, more like 5%.
Only you can work out if you do enough on the limit journeys without charging to justify £900 to extend the range by about 5%…

For me, unless you live in a significantly colder climate than even Northern U.K., the added weight and complexity of a heat pump isn’t justified.

Others have different views, including car salesmen whose commission varies with sale value……

[Smiljan]

If you go for the bigger battery there is no middle rear seat or seat belt. Something to consider, you can't have the pan roof either all because of the weight.

The middle seat is replaced by a weird open stowage that looks like someone forgot to install the seat cushion.



Just thought I'd mention as it's not that obvious from their website. Like the ID3 it's supposed to be getting resolved at some point but no idea when. I'm still debating whether to cancel my company one because of this.

[robemcdonald]

Smiljan said:

If you go for the bigger battery there is no middle rear seat or seat belt. Something to consider, you can't have the pan roof either all because of the weight.

The middle seat is replaced by a weird open stowage that looks like someone forgot to install the seat cushion.



Just thought I'd mention as it's not that obvious from their website. Like the ID3 it's supposed to be getting resolved at some point but no idea when. I'm still debating whether to cancel my company one because of this.

Yes, I knew about the back seat arrangement and it is a consideration, although I can’t see me carrying three in the back (unless you count the dog)

Looks like the heat pump might be surplus to requirements. What about DCC chassis stuff? Normally I find stuff like that a bit gimmicky.

[Andrew1991]

My partner picked one up about 2 weeks ago now. A V2 58 Kwh e boost version. Replaced her Megane 300 Trophy and she loves it. Loads of cool tech and a good standard specification, no lagginess in the infotainment screen like I've seen in some reviews.

Drives really well, comfortable, quiet (even at 70/75 on the motorway). Really a very nice car and looks the part compared to the ID3. Gets around 190 miles from an 80% charge. Full is around 240 ish but does seem to use up range quickly on faster roads. We still have a diesel daily for longer drives but this is ideal for her commute and the odd errands/day trip etc.

Best thing is it's only cost £5.37 for around 500 miles as she gets free charging at work compared to ~£160 that the Megane would have cost to do the same distance.

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[audi321]

Nice! You must be one of the first in the UK to get theirs.

I placed the order on launch day and I’m still waiting (est august)

I guess the colours/configurations make a difference to build dates. I’m white v2 58kwh no options.

[Nickbrapp]

I see a lot of you are comparing the born and the ID3, but I think you’re missing a trick not exploring the enyaq if you can, i tried the id3, enyaq and the born when looking at company car EVs and I have to say the Enyaq seemed the best package and with the sportline seats was the most comfortable and looks the best from the outside, 3 seats on the more powerful one too.

Wasn’t fussed on the born because of the looks from the front

[plfrench]

Nickbrapp said:

I see a lot of you are comparing the born and the ID3, but I think you’re missing a trick not exploring the enyaq if you can, i tried the id3, enyaq and the born when looking at company car EVs and I have to say the Enyaq seemed the best package and with the sportline seats was the most comfortable and looks the best from the outside, 3 seats on the more powerful one too.

Wasn’t fussed on the born because of the looks from the front

It's a chunk bigger though - my wife didn't really need an Enyaq-sized car coming from a Golf - the Born fitted the bill nicely.

Agree with the Enyaq being a good car though - I would have gone with one instead of the Q4 I ordered if the Q4 wasn't cheaper spec for spec via my salary sacrifice scheme. I could get a Q4 50 Edition 1 cheaper than I could an Enyaq 80X Sportline, so I did - Q4 has 40hp extra when fully charged too

[Andrew1991]

audi321 said:

Nice! You must be one of the first in the UK to get theirs.

I placed the order on launch day and I’m still waiting (est august)

I guess the colours/configurations make a difference to build dates. I’m white v2 58kwh no options.

She was fortunate to pick up a cancelled order. Only had to wait 10 or so days for it. That was from Cupra Oxford.