Who's ordered a KIA EV6 GT?

[Zcd1]

F20CN16 said:

Isn’t Electrify America meant to be pretty good?

Not sure whether your phrasing was intentional or not, but “meant to be” is one thing, but the reality has been quite different.

Stories abound of failures to charge, chargers which have been physically present but never activated over long stretches of time and even poorly-conceived charger station layouts.

Seems this may be the result when a company is forced to design/install a network at virtual gunpoint.

[anonymous-user]

Zcd1 said:

F20CN16 said:

Isn’t Electrify America meant to be pretty good?

Not sure whether your phrasing was intentional or not, but “meant to be” is one thing, but the reality has been quite different.

Stories abound of failures to charge, chargers which have been physically present but never activated over long stretches of time and even poorly-conceived charger station layouts.

Seems this may be the result when a company is forced to design/install a network at virtual gunpoint.

Oh no, no hidden sarcasm. I saw a video on youtube recently of a "race" across the US where they had a tesla or 2 (charging with superchargers) vs. other EVs using Electrify America. I thought it was decent!

[Zcd1]

F20CN16 said:

Oh no, no hidden sarcasm. I saw a video on youtube recently of a "race" across the US where they had a tesla or 2 (charging with superchargers) vs. other EVs using Electrify America. I thought it was decent!

OK, understood.

The theoretical advantage that the 350KW EA chargers could provide depends of course on them actually working. The H/K twins' range also doesn't appear to be quite what was advertised, at least from what I've seen thus far, so faster charging would be required simply to pace a recent Tesla, much less actually be quicker.

All of that said, it's really only road-tripping where this would be an issue.

If the actual EV 6 GT were available now, that might be enough to push me over the edge.

[RossP]

It will be interesting to see a comparison between the M3P and the GT when journos can finally get their hands on one. The GT is heavier but also has more power.

Still haven't had any confirmation on whether my colour choice of matte steel grey is going to be fulfilled.

[Zcd1]

I've also read that the EV6's headroom is somewhat lacking.

I'm 6' 2", so not super-tall, but long-waisted, so headroom is often at a premium for me. My Model 3's headroom was ample for me, front and rear.

[SWoll]

RossP said:

It will be interesting to see a comparison between the M3P and the GT when journos can finally get their hands on one. The GT is heavier but also has more power.

Still haven't had any confirmation on whether my colour choice of matte steel grey is going to be fulfilled.

I'd say comparison with the Model Y P would probably make more sense as thy have a lot more in common. The interesting thing for me will be whether they can setup the rest of the car to handle almost twice as much power as the AWD GT Line S.

Looks a very compelling package overall, especially at <£60k as with early orders.

[JonChalk]

Zcd1 said:

I've also read that the EV6's headroom is somewhat lacking.

I'm 6' 2", so not super-tall, but long-waisted, so headroom is often at a premium for me. My Model 3's headroom was ample for me, front and rear.

Also 6'2" and don't find it a problem, but there's not a lot of room left - the sunroof option removes quite a lot of space - much more headroom in those without.

[Zcd1]

JonChalk said:

Also 6'2" and don't find it a problem, but there's not a lot of room left - the sunroof option removes quite a lot of space - much more headroom in those without.

Unfortunately, there isn't an EV6 of any type anywhere in my area for me to sit in/try out.

[SWoll]

JonChalk said:

Zcd1 said:

I've also read that the EV6's headroom is somewhat lacking.

I'm 6' 2", so not super-tall, but long-waisted, so headroom is often at a premium for me. My Model 3's headroom was ample for me, front and rear.

Also 6'2" and don't find it a problem, but there's not a lot of room left - the sunroof option removes quite a lot of space - much more headroom in those without.

Often the case, much better with a fixed panoramic like the Model 3 IME where you gain headroom rather than a motorised one that removes it and adds additional weight.

6.4" and long of torso so can really struggle with some cars.

[JonChalk]

SWoll said:

JonChalk said:

Zcd1 said:

I've also read that the EV6's headroom is somewhat lacking.

I'm 6' 2", so not super-tall, but long-waisted, so headroom is often at a premium for me. My Model 3's headroom was ample for me, front and rear.

Also 6'2" and don't find it a problem, but there's not a lot of room left - the sunroof option removes quite a lot of space - much more headroom in those without.

Often the case, much better with a fixed panoramic like the Model 3 IME where you gain headroom rather than a motorised one that removes it and adds additional weight.

6.4" and long of torso so can really struggle with some cars.

Yeah - I think you'd struggle in a sunroof-equipped EV6.

[RossP]

There's an EV6 Facebook group if you're interested - https://www.facebook.com/groups/kiaev6uk/

[jimmytheone]

JonChalk said:

I really, really want to.

But, in truth, my RWD GT Line S is actually all the power required in the real world - more would be really nice, but not needed.

Plus, the range takes a bit of a hit.

We had a brief test drive in a GT Line S a few months back and it didnt *feel* that quick, despite its claimed 321bhp.
The Jag iPace (with 400bhp) felt significantly faster and i think there's only about 8kg between them.

Thanks to this thread i looked on the lease co website and the GT is now available *and* cheaper (£250pm) than the jag.
Decisions!

[SWoll]

jimmytheone said:

JonChalk said:

I really, really want to.

But, in truth, my RWD GT Line S is actually all the power required in the real world - more would be really nice, but not needed.

Plus, the range takes a bit of a hit.

We had a brief test drive in a GT Line S a few months back and it didnt *feel* that quick, despite its claimed 321bhp.
The Jag iPace (with 400bhp) felt significantly faster and i think there's only about 8kg between them.

Thanks to this thread i looked on the lease co website and the GT is now available *and* cheaper (£250pm) than the jag.
Decisions!

I assume that's the HSE version of the iPace so a very well equipped £75k car?

The GT is actually more expensive than the i4 M50 and Model Y Performance on the same terms, which I would suggest will be it's biggest struggle in generating take-up.

[mrkipling]

jimmytheone said:

We had a brief test drive in a GT Line S a few months back and it didnt *feel* that quick, despite its claimed 321bhp.
The Jag iPace (with 400bhp) felt significantly faster and i think there's only about 8kg between them.

Thanks to this thread i looked on the lease co website and the GT is now available *and* cheaper (£250pm) than the jag.
Decisions!

Are you sure it was a 321bhp car? All UK dealers demonstrators are GT Line S rwd spec with 226bhp. They were all auto issued in October, the AWD cars feel a lot quicker & should really be close to the IPace.

[JonChalk]

SWoll said:

jimmytheone said:

JonChalk said:

I really, really want to.

But, in truth, my RWD GT Line S is actually all the power required in the real world - more would be really nice, but not needed.

Plus, the range takes a bit of a hit.

We had a brief test drive in a GT Line S a few months back and it didnt *feel* that quick, despite its claimed 321bhp.
The Jag iPace (with 400bhp) felt significantly faster and i think there's only about 8kg between them.

Thanks to this thread i looked on the lease co website and the GT is now available *and* cheaper (£250pm) than the jag.
Decisions!

I assume that's the HSE version of the iPace so a very well equipped £75k car?

The GT is actually more expensive than the i4 M50 and Model Y Performance on the same terms, which I would suggest will be it's biggest struggle in generating take-up.

You sure about that SWoll? Nothing official yet, but think the EV6 GT is being quoted at £58-something - given RRP being much lower, it's going to be struggle for lease companies to make huge savings; the i4 M50 starts at £63k (and climbs toward £68k if you add 20" wheels and things like heated steering wheel - included on the GT) and the Model Y performance is £65k.

Obviously, lease companies are going to fight over headline monthlies (leaving all those lovely Ts & Cs to catch people out ), but that just means more money fro the lease company somewhere in the equation

[SWoll]

JonChalk said:

You sure about that SWoll? Nothing official yet, but think the EV6 GT is being quoted at £58-something - given RRP being much lower, it's going to be struggle for lease companies to make huge savings; the i4 M50 starts at £63k (and climbs toward £68k if you add 20" wheels and things like heated steering wheel - included on the GT) and the Model Y performance is £65k.

Obviously, lease companies are going to fight over headline monthlies (leaving all those lovely Ts & Cs to catch people out ), but that just means more money fro the lease company somewhere in the equation

On a 3 year 30k lease the GT is coming in at £960 a month, the i4 M50 £950 and the Model Y P £890.

With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.

And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.

[RossP]

SWoll said:

On a 3 year 30k lease the GT is coming in at £960 a month, the i4 M50 £950 and the Model Y P £890.

With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.

And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.

Is that a base i4 M50?

Thankfully I ordered my GT over a year ago so I have the lower price.

[JonChalk]

SWoll said:

JonChalk said:

You sure about that SWoll? Nothing official yet, but think the EV6 GT is being quoted at £58-something - given RRP being much lower, it's going to be struggle for lease companies to make huge savings; the i4 M50 starts at £63k (and climbs toward £68k if you add 20" wheels and things like heated steering wheel - included on the GT) and the Model Y performance is £65k.

Obviously, lease companies are going to fight over headline monthlies (leaving all those lovely Ts & Cs to catch people out ), but that just means more money fro the lease company somewhere in the equation

On a 3 year 30k lease the GT is coming in at £960 a month, the i4 M50 £950 and the Model Y P £890.

With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.

And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.

Yeah - we've had these discussions before - I'm in the minority by buying / owning the biggest proportion of my EV6, with way less than 50% being financed.

[jimmytheone]

SWoll said:

jimmytheone said:

JonChalk said:

I really, really want to.

But, in truth, my RWD GT Line S is actually all the power required in the real world - more would be really nice, but not needed.

Plus, the range takes a bit of a hit.

We had a brief test drive in a GT Line S a few months back and it didnt *feel* that quick, despite its claimed 321bhp.
The Jag iPace (with 400bhp) felt significantly faster and i think there's only about 8kg between them.

Thanks to this thread i looked on the lease co website and the GT is now available *and* cheaper (£250pm) than the jag.
Decisions!

I assume that's the HSE version of the iPace so a very well equipped £75k car?

The GT is actually more expensive than the i4 M50 and Model Y Performance on the same terms, which I would suggest will be it's biggest struggle in generating take-up.

The test ipace was a 400SE MY21 with pimps tints pano roof, black pack and 20" black wheels - trying hard to be gangsta! so yeah, 70k but still missing a head up display "due to chips/covid/energy crisis....

[jimmytheone]

mrkipling said:

Are you sure it was a 321bhp car? All UK dealers demonstrators are GT Line S rwd spec with 226bhp. They were all auto issued in October, the AWD cars feel a lot quicker & should really be close to the IPace.

I was told our test car was a 321 but it didnt have the aggressive throttle response (!) of the jag - i put it down to a drive mode setting which i didnt really have time to play with. Looking back, it was february so you could be right.

I've requested a 4 day test through the lease co so hopefully they provide at least a 321. I suspect they wont have any full fat GT's but i'd happily test that too, ha ha.