Who's ordered a KIA EV6 GT?
Discussion
jimmytheone said:
mrkipling said:
Are you sure it was a 321bhp car? All UK dealers demonstrators are GT Line S rwd spec with 226bhp. They were all auto issued in October, the AWD cars feel a lot quicker & should really be close to the IPace.
I was told our test car was a 321 but it didnt have the aggressive throttle response (!) of the jag - i put it down to a drive mode setting which i didnt really have time to play with. Looking back, it was february so you could be right.I've requested a 4 day test through the lease co so hopefully they provide at least a 321. I suspect they wont have any full fat GT's but i'd happily test that too, ha ha.
.SWoll said:
On a 3 year 30k lease the GT is coming in at £960 a month, the i4 M50 £950 and the Model Y P £890.
With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.
And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.
We'd be leasing through my wifes company scheme and therefore must use a specific company on a 4yrs/70k term - we get stung by the mileage, being fully maintained, but for comparison:With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.
And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.
GT Line S 321 = 940pm
GT 577 = 1,070pm
ipace s = 1200
ipace HSE = 1,300pm
TM3LR = 913pm
GT I've seen £59k quoted as RRP.
jimmytheone said:
SWoll said:
On a 3 year 30k lease the GT is coming in at £960 a month, the i4 M50 £950 and the Model Y P £890.
With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.
And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.
We'd be leasing through my wifes company scheme and therefore must use a specific company on a 4yrs/70k term - we get stung by the mileage, being fully maintained, but for comparison:With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.
And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.
GT Line S 321 = 940pm
GT 577 = 1,070pm
ipace s = 1200
ipace HSE = 1,300pm
TM3LR = 913pm
GT I've seen £59k quoted as RRP.
£52k to lease a £59k car over 4 years and 70k miles.
Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 17th May 22:24
SWoll said:
jimmytheone said:
SWoll said:
On a 3 year 30k lease the GT is coming in at £960 a month, the i4 M50 £950 and the Model Y P £890.
With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.
And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.
We'd be leasing through my wifes company scheme and therefore must use a specific company on a 4yrs/70k term - we get stung by the mileage, being fully maintained, but for comparison:With the vast majority of EV's being company/salary sacrifice cars due to the BIK saving the lower confidence in residuals could be an issue for the Kia.
And we'll see if they hit that £58k price for new orders in 2022, I very much doubt it.
GT Line S 321 = 940pm
GT 577 = 1,070pm
ipace s = 1200
ipace HSE = 1,300pm
TM3LR = 913pm
GT I've seen £59k quoted as RRP.
£52k to lease a £59k car over 4 years and 70k miles.
Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 17th May 22:24
ashenfie said:
With that milage they seam about right
I'd be very wary of committing to a 4 year deal at that cost when business mileage will only net 4p per mile unless that's a SS gross quote and and significant savings will be made on tax/NI.As above, £52k over 4 years and 70k miles (that you may not use anyway) is ridiculous on a car listing at £59k. Insurance and maint/tyres over 4 years are going to make up <10% of that total.
EV leasing costs are absolutely nuts at the minute.
SWoll said:
Are those SS gross prices before BIK savings or what you'll be expected to pay, as they are very expensive for a company scheme?
52k to lease a 59k car over 4 years and 70k miles.
Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 17th May 22:24
SMAX 240 TD we had before (over the same term ie 4yrs/70k):
£800pm + £526pm BIK = £1,326pm total
so still a reasonable saving over that even with sky high prices.
I was struggling to make sense of some of these lease costs - as you say it implies the residual value after 4yrs/70k would be £8-10k.
Even taking into account tyres that still seems nuts/piss-take given the lack of other maintenance costs but we HAVE to use said lease co at the mileage stated (to get the BIK savings), else opt out and lose 45% of car allowance...
The sad thing is, a taycan cross4 or sport tourismo is only £1220pm but my wife wont have that as a company car
jimmytheone said:
SWoll said:
Are those SS gross prices before BIK savings or what you'll be expected to pay, as they are very expensive for a company scheme?
52k to lease a 59k car over 4 years and 70k miles.
Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 17th May 22:24
Yes, thats gross before BIK savings - for additional comparison:
SMAX 240 TD we had before (over the same term ie 4yrs/70k):
800pm + 526pm BIK = 1,326pm total
so still a reasonable saving over that even with sky high prices.
I was struggling to make sense of some of these lease costs - as you say it implies the residual value after 4yrs/70k would be 8-10k.
Even taking into account tyres that still seems nuts/piss-take given the lack of other maintenance costs but we HAVE to use said lease co at the mileage stated (to get the BIK savings), else opt out and lose 45% of car allowance...
The sad thing is, a taycan cross4 or sport tourismo is only 1220pm but my wife wont have that as a company car
What has she got against the Porsche? Too flashy?
SWoll said:
1300 a month for a 4 cylinder diesel S-Max?
What has she got against the Porsche? Too flashy?
now driving a MG5 which i secretly quite like [getscoat]
Porsche is too flashy, she's an engineer and they seem to buy the Right Tool For The Job, not the flashy one.
jimmytheone said:
SWoll said:
1300 a month for a 4 cylinder diesel S-Max?
What has she got against the Porsche? Too flashy?
now driving a MG5 which i secretly quite like [getscoat]
Porsche is too flashy, she's an engineer and they seem to buy the Right Tool For The Job, not the flashy one.
JonChalk said:
Had I been more financially constrained, the MG5 - the newer LR version - would definitely have been my choice.
At around £30k i think it represents tremendous VFM.
Seeing the kids arrive home in it and looking at their angelic faces peering through the untinted glass did make me think i should have worked harder at school
Fortunately its a loaner...
jimmytheone said:
SWoll said:
1300 a month for a 4 cylinder diesel S-Max?
What has she got against the Porsche? Too flashy?
now driving a MG5 which i secretly quite like [getscoat]
Porsche is too flashy, she's an engineer and they seem to buy the Right Tool For The Job, not the flashy one.
SWoll said:
It's the best engineered EV bar none, and comes in saloon and estate format. Other than it being a bit big I'm not sure what job it wouldn't be the right tool for TBH but each to there own.
So we're mulling either the ipace or the EV6 - but we digress, perhaps i should start my own thread!
RossP said:
i-pace is a bit old hat now. EV6 has 800V same as the Porker!
Agreed, only really matters if you are going to be doing a lot of public charging and can access high powered rapids though I suppose?
The iPace prices are crazy for a car starting to show its age though I agree. I'd definitely be taking the EV6 GT from the list provided.
jimmytheone said:
I dont doubt you but i also know i wont convince her
So we're mulling either the ipace or the EV6 - but we digress, perhaps i should start my own thread!
TBH by the time you'd added options to the Taycan to get anywhere near the spec of the EV6 GT or iPace HSE you'll be getting close to £2k a month I'd guess. They're rather light on kit as standard.
Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 18th May 19:16
RossP said:
EV6 has way more power than the Jag! An extra 176hp!
The only fly in the ointment is the GT doesnt come with the pano roof which IME can make all the difference to those stuck in the back (not that i care THAT much for their welfare - i had to suffer vinyl burns from the school run morris minor when i was a kid!)
jimmytheone said:
exactly, just have to hope the mrs doesnt notice till its too late.
The only fly in the ointment is the GT doesnt come with the pano roof which IME can make all the difference to those stuck in the back (not that i care THAT much for their welfare - i had to suffer vinyl burns from the school run morris minor when i was a kid!)
If it helps, it's not really a panoramic roof at all - just a tilt-n-slide sunroof over the front seats - it does help in the back, but there is no glass over the rear seats.The only fly in the ointment is the GT doesnt come with the pano roof which IME can make all the difference to those stuck in the back (not that i care THAT much for their welfare - i had to suffer vinyl burns from the school run morris minor when i was a kid!)
JonChalk said:
If it helps, it's not really a panoramic roof at all - just a tilt-n-slide sunroof over the front seats - it does help in the back, but there is no glass over the rear seats.
ah thanks.I didnt spend much time in the back during our previous (short) test drive, hopefully wife co/lease co sort out the 4 day EV6 test soon, while the iPace is fresh in the memory.
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