I saw a parked iPace so went to a dealership
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JonChalk said:
SWoll said:
TheDeuce said:
For the sake of transparency, on motorways I typically slip in behind a truck and let the car drive itself.
Out of interest was this your approach to long trips before getting an EV? Sounds a dreadful experience to me, but each to their own.TheDeuce is entitled to drive how he wishes, but sitting at 56mph behind a truck on my trip to and from Durham yesterday would have added about 1.5 hours to what was already a nearly 8 hour drive.....
boyse7en said:
JonChalk said:
SWoll said:
TheDeuce said:
For the sake of transparency, on motorways I typically slip in behind a truck and let the car drive itself.
Out of interest was this your approach to long trips before getting an EV? Sounds a dreadful experience to me, but each to their own.TheDeuce is entitled to drive how he wishes, but sitting at 56mph behind a truck on my trip to and from Durham yesterday would have added about 1.5 hours to what was already a nearly 8 hour drive.....
Did I used to drive like that before EV? Nope, but I think that's in part because I didn't have lane assist coupled with adaptive cruise. Using both, the car pretty much drives itself which makes for a very easy, relaxing journey. The fact the car is a nice and very comfy place to be sat helps.. as does the awesome sound system.
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It might be four or five years old, but I honestly think the only electric car that betters it currently is the Porsche Taycan. It inspires confidence, leans evenly through corners, manages to feel and behave like a Jaguar should. It highlights just how disinterested in driving the Hyundai is.
It might be four or five years old, but I honestly think the only electric car that betters it currently is the Porsche Taycan. It inspires confidence, leans evenly through corners, manages to feel and behave like a Jaguar should. It highlights just how disinterested in driving the Hyundai is.
TheDeuce said:
boyse7en said:
JonChalk said:
SWoll said:
TheDeuce said:
For the sake of transparency, on motorways I typically slip in behind a truck and let the car drive itself.
Out of interest was this your approach to long trips before getting an EV? Sounds a dreadful experience to me, but each to their own.TheDeuce is entitled to drive how he wishes, but sitting at 56mph behind a truck on my trip to and from Durham yesterday would have added about 1.5 hours to what was already a nearly 8 hour drive.....
Did I used to drive like that before EV? Nope, but I think that's in part because I didn't have lane assist coupled with adaptive cruise. Using both, the car pretty much drives itself which makes for a very easy, relaxing journey. The fact the car is a nice and very comfy place to be sat helps.. as does the awesome sound system.
Stopped at the new Leeds Skelton Lakes service area both up and down yesterday, and both times went from 20ish% to 80% faster than the time it took me to have a comfort break and have food.
Couldn't have done the journey (450+ miles) with one fewer stops, regardless of economy / speed, or without the food / comfort stops, so lost time trying to eat it out by driving 25% slower just not worth it.
Zcd1 said:
I-Pace’s Achilles’ Heel remains its DC charging speed, which simply isn’t competitive. If you don’t do much road tripping or don’t care about the much longer stops that would be required by an I-Pace, it’s a nice car.
Still true. Even if you take issue with the term I used, the I-Pace’s DC charging speed is not and never has been class-competitive.
That doesn’t matter to some, like I said.
It’s also still a nice car, like I said.
JonChalk said:
One of the advantages of the EV6 (even in cool British weather like yesterday), is that it charges so quickly.
Stopped at the new Leeds Skelton Lakes service area both up and down yesterday, and both times went from 20ish% to 80% faster than the time it took me to have a comfort break and have food.
Couldn't have done the journey (450+ miles) with one fewer stops, regardless of economy / speed, or without the food / comfort stops, so lost time trying to eat it out by driving 25% slower just not worth it.
Good input but really means nothing in the context here when you don't say the time of stop and / or charge speed.Stopped at the new Leeds Skelton Lakes service area both up and down yesterday, and both times went from 20ish% to 80% faster than the time it took me to have a comfort break and have food.
Couldn't have done the journey (450+ miles) with one fewer stops, regardless of economy / speed, or without the food / comfort stops, so lost time trying to eat it out by driving 25% slower just not worth it.
JonnyVTEC said:
JonChalk said:
One of the advantages of the EV6 (even in cool British weather like yesterday), is that it charges so quickly.
Stopped at the new Leeds Skelton Lakes service area both up and down yesterday, and both times went from 20ish% to 80% faster than the time it took me to have a comfort break and have food.
Couldn't have done the journey (450+ miles) with one fewer stops, regardless of economy / speed, or without the food / comfort stops, so lost time trying to eat it out by driving 25% slower just not worth it.
Good input but really means nothing in the context here when you don't say the time of stop and / or charge speed.Stopped at the new Leeds Skelton Lakes service area both up and down yesterday, and both times went from 20ish% to 80% faster than the time it took me to have a comfort break and have food.
Couldn't have done the journey (450+ miles) with one fewer stops, regardless of economy / speed, or without the food / comfort stops, so lost time trying to eat it out by driving 25% slower just not worth it.
- I've given up looking - the constant obsession within the "EV community" with data and numbers (and absolute numerical efficiency to 3 decimal places) with commensurate data comparison and arguing over variables outside the control of the driver (i.e ambient temp, headwind speed) with others is one of the reasons that it seems out of touch to those not in the know.All that matters is that it charged faster than I peed and ate.
Whether it was 154kW or 120 or 80 or 7.53478 doesn't matter, IMHO.
JonChalk said:
JonnyVTEC said:
JonChalk said:
One of the advantages of the EV6 (even in cool British weather like yesterday), is that it charges so quickly.
Stopped at the new Leeds Skelton Lakes service area both up and down yesterday, and both times went from 20ish% to 80% faster than the time it took me to have a comfort break and have food.
Couldn't have done the journey (450+ miles) with one fewer stops, regardless of economy / speed, or without the food / comfort stops, so lost time trying to eat it out by driving 25% slower just not worth it.
Good input but really means nothing in the context here when you don't say the time of stop and / or charge speed.Stopped at the new Leeds Skelton Lakes service area both up and down yesterday, and both times went from 20ish% to 80% faster than the time it took me to have a comfort break and have food.
Couldn't have done the journey (450+ miles) with one fewer stops, regardless of economy / speed, or without the food / comfort stops, so lost time trying to eat it out by driving 25% slower just not worth it.
- I've given up looking - the constant obsession within the "EV community" with data and numbers (and absolute numerical efficiency to 3 decimal places) with commensurate data comparison and arguing over variables outside the control of the driver (i.e ambient temp, headwind speed) with others is one of the reasons that it seems out of touch to those not in the know.All that matters is that it charged faster than I peed and ate.
Whether it was 154kW or 120 or 80 or 7.53478 doesn't matter, IMHO.
TheDeuce said:
boyse7en said:
JonChalk said:
SWoll said:
TheDeuce said:
For the sake of transparency, on motorways I typically slip in behind a truck and let the car drive itself.
Out of interest was this your approach to long trips before getting an EV? Sounds a dreadful experience to me, but each to their own.TheDeuce is entitled to drive how he wishes, but sitting at 56mph behind a truck on my trip to and from Durham yesterday would have added about 1.5 hours to what was already a nearly 8 hour drive.....
Did I used to drive like that before EV? Nope, but I think that's in part because I didn't have lane assist coupled with adaptive cruise. Using both, the car pretty much drives itself which makes for a very easy, relaxing journey. The fact the car is a nice and very comfy place to be sat helps.. as does the awesome sound system.
JonChalk said:
Because I don't really care - I've given up looking - the constant obsession within the "EV community" with data and numbers (and absolute numerical efficiency to 3 decimal places) with commensurate data comparison and arguing over variables outside the control of the driver (i.e ambient temp, headwind speed) with others is one of the reasons that it seems out of touch to those not in the know.
All that matters is that it charged faster than I peed and ate.
Whether it was 154kW or 120 or 80 or 7.53478 doesn't matter, IMHO.
My car probably would have done the same if you chew your food like you do your words - I've given up looking - the constant obsession within the "EV community" with data and numbers (and absolute numerical efficiency to 3 decimal places) with commensurate data comparison and arguing over variables outside the control of the driver (i.e ambient temp, headwind speed) with others is one of the reasons that it seems out of touch to those not in the know.All that matters is that it charged faster than I peed and ate.
Whether it was 154kW or 120 or 80 or 7.53478 doesn't matter, IMHO.
EDIT: Basically dont tell me it charges quickly when no SI units attached, and then reply like that when you are asked. I was interested.
Its like going back to 'its a nippy car' days.
Edited by JonnyVTEC on Friday 20th May 13:34
JonChalk said:
Because I don't really care - I've given up looking - the constant obsession within the "EV community" with data and numbers (and absolute numerical efficiency to 3 decimal places) with commensurate data comparison and arguing over variables outside the control of the driver (i.e ambient temp, headwind speed) with others is one of the reasons that it seems out of touch to those not in the know.
All that matters is that it charged faster than I peed and ate.
Whether it was 154kW or 120 or 80 or 7.53478 doesn't matter, IMHO.
- I've given up looking - the constant obsession within the "EV community" with data and numbers (and absolute numerical efficiency to 3 decimal places) with commensurate data comparison and arguing over variables outside the control of the driver (i.e ambient temp, headwind speed) with others is one of the reasons that it seems out of touch to those not in the know.All that matters is that it charged faster than I peed and ate.
Whether it was 154kW or 120 or 80 or 7.53478 doesn't matter, IMHO.
TheDeuce said:
To add for the OP's benefit, on the self Fri ong tech front it's very good. Moving from a past golf that had it I'd assumed the Jag system wouldn't be as polished, but it's excellent. There's a setting hidden away in the menus that lets it steer by reading the car in front in addition to following the white lines - stops the car weaving if a white line is broken etc. Smart.
Interesting, I didn't know of such a setting. I must look into it!JonnyVTEC said:
He must care to post. The idea hes playing ignorant to it is falacy,
But it's true. I genuienly don't know what my cars max charging speed is, even if I did I'd guess I'd never see it as the figure calcualted would be the theoretical max.All I know is that as long as I'm not sharing a feed it's usually adds about 150miles in the time I can pee and get a coffee.
WestyCarl said:
JonnyVTEC said:
He must care to post. The idea hes playing ignorant to it is falacy,
But it's true. I genuienly don't know what my cars max charging speed is, even if I did I'd guess I'd never see it as the figure calcualted would be the theoretical max.All I know is that as long as I'm not sharing a feed it's usually adds about 150miles in the time I can pee and get a coffee.
If I was driving hundreds of miles frequently I would feel differently perhaps, but like 90%+ of the UK driver population, I don't. If I did, I would probably have a diesel - which remains an option for anyone that doesn't want every single long distance journey interrupted with an enforced break, however short it may be in 'right EV'.
For the vast majority, any EV is just fine so long as the range covers most of their journeys. So choose the one you like and stop comparing pie charts and graphs about charging curves
I quite like expressing charging speeds as "miles added per hour" or MAPH.
My little i3 that typical does between 4 and 5 ml/kWh therefore charges at a bit above 200 MAPH on a 50 kW charger, whereas a hulky Etron or similar, which does 'just' 2.5 ml/kWh only charges at about 125 MAPH on the same charger.
Horses for courses :-)
My little i3 that typical does between 4 and 5 ml/kWh therefore charges at a bit above 200 MAPH on a 50 kW charger, whereas a hulky Etron or similar, which does 'just' 2.5 ml/kWh only charges at about 125 MAPH on the same charger.
Horses for courses :-)
Lord Flashheart said:
OP here. New iPace could be on my drive in a week and it'll look identical to this one! The interior probably isn't to everyone's liking, but for me it's the dogs danglies.
Damn! That looks good! Hope you have a great time owning and driving it. I think the IPace is very sensitive to what wheels are on it. The basic "S" wheels look s
te, but those ones look just right.Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff