How much is your EV costing you to run?
Discussion
gangzoom said:
mikeiow said:
It does sometimes feel that peak ‘low cost EV ownership’* is maybe behind us, instead of in front….those are crazy numbers
* although purchase cost was always a good 10k more than the equivalent ICE….
Remember the days of a <£200/month £0 deposit Leaf?? It really was bizarre walking into a Nissan dealer and leaving with brand new car without paying a penny, if I remember the first £200 was take often in the 2nd month due to DD dates......add in 'free' chargers everywhere (when they worked).* although purchase cost was always a good 10k more than the equivalent ICE….
I thought technology was suppose to get cheaper with time?
Amateurish said:
Yoiu do need to bear in mind that the 500e is a much better car than the current 500. I've driven both and it really is chalk and cheese. The standard 500 really feels its age (is it the oldest car still in production?) and seems very cheaply built.
I can believe that.We noticed even 3 years ago that our Kona EV was streets ahead of the petrol Kona in terms of quality of finish. Also very well equipped for what is essentially a pretty small hot hatch!
Speed1283 said:
With the ever increasing costs of fuel is certainly making me consider replacing my diesel barge.
It seems like a no brainer for anyone who can get through a company/company car scheme. But I'm less sure about private ownership. I own my car outright; whilst there's no doubt that I'll save on running costs by switching to an EV, I suspect it'll be overshadowed by monthly costs of financing an EV that'd I'd want.
Also, as I live in a new build block of flats, whilst there is charging in the parking underground, the rate seems pretty high compared to what I'm seeing on this thread. They recently increased the rate to £0.34/kWh off peak and £0.38/kWh peak.
Really impressed by the EV6 and I drove a friend's model 3 recently which was great (although I do much prefer the looks and interior of my 6 series). I'd love a Jag I pace but they are costly and the range seems a little low.
There's a lot of people on this thread quoting what they pay based on fixed term tarrifs that are no longer availableIt seems like a no brainer for anyone who can get through a company/company car scheme. But I'm less sure about private ownership. I own my car outright; whilst there's no doubt that I'll save on running costs by switching to an EV, I suspect it'll be overshadowed by monthly costs of financing an EV that'd I'd want.
Also, as I live in a new build block of flats, whilst there is charging in the parking underground, the rate seems pretty high compared to what I'm seeing on this thread. They recently increased the rate to £0.34/kWh off peak and £0.38/kWh peak.
Really impressed by the EV6 and I drove a friend's model 3 recently which was great (although I do much prefer the looks and interior of my 6 series). I'd love a Jag I pace but they are costly and the range seems a little low.
For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
jinba-ittai said:
There's a lot of people on this thread quoting what they pay based on fixed term tarrifs that are no longer available
For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
The price cap is 28p. No one should be paying 40p.For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
jinba-ittai said:
Speed1283 said:
With the ever increasing costs of fuel is certainly making me consider replacing my diesel barge.
It seems like a no brainer for anyone who can get through a company/company car scheme. But I'm less sure about private ownership. I own my car outright; whilst there's no doubt that I'll save on running costs by switching to an EV, I suspect it'll be overshadowed by monthly costs of financing an EV that'd I'd want.
Also, as I live in a new build block of flats, whilst there is charging in the parking underground, the rate seems pretty high compared to what I'm seeing on this thread. They recently increased the rate to £0.34/kWh off peak and £0.38/kWh peak.
Really impressed by the EV6 and I drove a friend's model 3 recently which was great (although I do much prefer the looks and interior of my 6 series). I'd love a Jag I pace but they are costly and the range seems a little low.
There's a lot of people on this thread quoting what they pay based on fixed term tarrifs that are no longer availableIt seems like a no brainer for anyone who can get through a company/company car scheme. But I'm less sure about private ownership. I own my car outright; whilst there's no doubt that I'll save on running costs by switching to an EV, I suspect it'll be overshadowed by monthly costs of financing an EV that'd I'd want.
Also, as I live in a new build block of flats, whilst there is charging in the parking underground, the rate seems pretty high compared to what I'm seeing on this thread. They recently increased the rate to £0.34/kWh off peak and £0.38/kWh peak.
Really impressed by the EV6 and I drove a friend's model 3 recently which was great (although I do much prefer the looks and interior of my 6 series). I'd love a Jag I pace but they are costly and the range seems a little low.
For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
Amateurish said:
jinba-ittai said:
There's a lot of people on this thread quoting what they pay based on fixed term tarrifs that are no longer available
For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
The price cap is 28p. No one should be paying 40p.For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
Only wouldn't apply if you take out a fixed-term tariff, but why would you take that over the default if you are getting 40p per kWh.
Amateurish said:
jinba-ittai said:
There's a lot of people on this thread quoting what they pay based on fixed term tarrifs that are no longer available
For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
The price cap is 28p. No one should be paying 40p.For people who are signing up onto a new tarrif now (or people who's supplier has gone bust) £0.40 / kWh is typical
dmsims said:
Wrong again!
The standing charge is 45p
If you use 45 units the rate will be 29p unit
If you use 10 units the rate wll be 32.5p unit
Fair enoughThe standing charge is 45p
If you use 45 units the rate will be 29p unit
If you use 10 units the rate wll be 32.5p unit
The main point still stands that plenty of people talking as though paying 6p per kWh is an option, when 28p is the only option for many right now
And in 4 months time it'll be over 40p and many more people's fixed tariffs will have expired
jinba-ittai said:
dmsims said:
Wrong again!
The standing charge is 45p
If you use 45 units the rate will be 29p unit
If you use 10 units the rate wll be 32.5p unit
Fair enoughThe standing charge is 45p
If you use 45 units the rate will be 29p unit
If you use 10 units the rate wll be 32.5p unit
The main point still stands that plenty of people talking as though paying 6p per kWh is an option, when 28p is the only option for many right now
And in 4 months time it'll be over 40p and many more people's fixed tariffs will have expired
So no, wrong again!
OutInTheShed said:
Evanivitch said:
Octopus GO is still available at 7.5p/kWh overnight.
So no, wrong again!
When looking at the Go tariff, you have to add in the cost of paying more for the rest of your electricity.So no, wrong again!
Currently about 7p extra per kWh.
But even of you're paying 7.5/35 versus 28 flat right now.
A not unreasonable 20kWh a day for an EV household, 10 in the house and 10 in the car was typical for me (GCH).
75p+350p=£4.25, versus £5.60 on the flat tariff.
Not forgetting you can also shift high demand items into the GO period if you want. Dishwasher is easily done. Washing machine and tumble dryer all possible too.
Evanivitch said:
Octopus GO is still available at 7.5p/kWh overnight.
So no, wrong again!
That's great, and would give an overall cost per kWh of about 21p per kWhSo no, wrong again!
Which will then likely be over 30p in four months time which ok isn't 40p, but still expensive
Edited by jinba-ittai on Saturday 18th June 12:38
Edited by jinba-ittai on Saturday 18th June 12:52
jinba-ittai said:
That's great, and would give an overall cost per kWh of about 21p per kWh
Which will then likely be over 30p in four months time which ok isn't 40p, but still expensive
Why would it "likely be" any such thing. You seem to just post false information and conjecture.Which will then likely be over 30p in four months time which ok isn't 40p, but still expensive
Edited by jinba-ittai on Saturday 18th June 12:38
Edited by jinba-ittai on Saturday 18th June 12:52
I recently signed up for a 24m EV tariff, with 4.5p/39p rates.
I tend to charge a min of 12kwh a night to 40kwh on the car. Allowing for 15kwh for the rest of the day the effective rates are between about 13p-23p a kWh - so worth doing. Also, because the rate is fixed for the next two years, I know it's not going to rise for the foreseeable.
I tend to charge a min of 12kwh a night to 40kwh on the car. Allowing for 15kwh for the rest of the day the effective rates are between about 13p-23p a kWh - so worth doing. Also, because the rate is fixed for the next two years, I know it's not going to rise for the foreseeable.
The 'price cap' is for domestic consumption only I believe. EV tariffs can be different providing extremely cheap off peak for charging the car. Also, camp sites, mobile home parks, communal car parks etc. can add on a service charge such that the per kwh rate is above the 'cap,' which does not apply to business consumption.
jinba-ittai said:
That's great, and would give an overall cost per kWh of about 21p per kWh
Which will then likely be over 30p in four months time which ok isn't 40p, but still expensive
Prices are rising but so is petrol.Which will then likely be over 30p in four months time which ok isn't 40p, but still expensive
Edited by jinba-ittai on Saturday 18th June 12:38
Edited by jinba-ittai on Saturday 18th June 12:52
My spreadsheet still shows a 10ppm saving using EV.
If on an Economy 7 tarrif it would be greater.
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