What are some non-obvious issues you have with your EV?

What are some non-obvious issues you have with your EV?

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skilly1

2,702 posts

195 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Tesla model 3 -
Why does the charging cable in the car not unlock when I unlock the car. I have to press a button on the screen which is a pain in the arse.
This is from my standard home charging cable, not when using the supercharger which has the button.

Maracus

4,237 posts

168 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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skilly1 said:
Tesla model 3 -
Why does the charging cable in the car not unlock when I unlock the car. I have to press a button on the screen which is a pain in the arse.
This is from my standard home charging cable, not when using the supercharger which has the button.
I find sometimes it does unlock, it's a bit random.

Just use the 'Unlock Charge Port' on the App.

skilly1

2,702 posts

195 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Maracus said:
I find sometimes it does unlock, it's a bit random.

Just use the 'Unlock Charge Port' on the App.
Get phone out, wait for connection, press unlock. That’s takes about 10secs. I’m a very important, powerful director, I don’t have time for that!

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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I had to replace the front brakes because they rotted.

Bannock

4,637 posts

30 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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The more I hear about Teslas and their wily ways, the more I'm minded to keep my Nissan Leaf 30 until it doesn't work any more.

Maracus

4,237 posts

168 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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skilly1 said:
Maracus said:
I find sometimes it does unlock, it's a bit random.

Just use the 'Unlock Charge Port' on the App.
Get phone out, wait for connection, press unlock. That’s takes about 10secs. I’m a very important, powerful director, I don’t have time for that!
My phone is already out unlocking the front boot/frunk/froot hehe

BertBert

19,040 posts

211 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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5 year old Zoe, just works, no complaints at all!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Took me while but I finally thought of a genuine one - regen braking doesn't work on my car if the battery is at 100%.
So I get used to driving everywhere with regen set to '3' which effectively allows one pedal driving, but if the car is fully charged, I still automatically select level '3' when I set off, head for a junction, lift off and instead of slowing rapidly I unexpectedly coast at full speed towards it instead.
I mean, it makes sense that regen can't charge a full battery, but I still expected the braking effect to be there.

TheDeuce

21,558 posts

66 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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doesthiswork said:
Took me while but I finally thought of a genuine one - regen braking doesn't work on my car if the battery is at 100%.
So I get used to driving everywhere with regen set to '3' which effectively allows one pedal driving, but if the car is fully charged, I still automatically select level '3' when I set off, head for a junction, lift off and instead of slowing rapidly I unexpectedly coast at full speed towards it instead.
I mean, it makes sense that regen can't charge a full battery, but I still expected the braking effect to be there.
That's odd, regen only reclaims a lesser amount of energy when braking than it took to get the car moving in the first place. Technically a full battery should use enough power the first time you pull off to then have the capacity for the energy fed back when you brake.

It might be that the amount of energy feeding back in a short space of time requires multiple cell packs to be partially depleted...? Any experts got a view on this..??

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
doesthiswork said:
Took me while but I finally thought of a genuine one - regen braking doesn't work on my car if the battery is at 100%.
So I get used to driving everywhere with regen set to '3' which effectively allows one pedal driving, but if the car is fully charged, I still automatically select level '3' when I set off, head for a junction, lift off and instead of slowing rapidly I unexpectedly coast at full speed towards it instead.
I mean, it makes sense that regen can't charge a full battery, but I still expected the braking effect to be there.
That's odd, regen only reclaims a lesser amount of energy when braking than it took to get the car moving in the first place. Technically a full battery should use enough power the first time you pull off to then have the capacity for the energy fed back when you brake.

It might be that the amount of energy feeding back in a short space of time requires multiple cell packs to be partially depleted...? Any experts got a view on this..??
This is also true in a Tesla and extends to when the battery is particularly cold; the regen effect is reduced until the battery reaches about 95% SoC. I imagine this is because the BMS can't manage an spike coming back towards the battery in the form of regen braking when there is reduced capacity / space for that charge to go.

I was reading yesterday that in the latest software update the brakes on Tesla models have now been mapped to facilitate the same braking effect you would get from regen braking. Not sure when that update will hit our shores.

Bannock

4,637 posts

30 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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In my Leaf 30, I can see regen happening even if I'm at 100% battery indicated. Wasn't the case in my previous Leaf 24 (had to use a few percents in that before it would let regen happen), but my favourite trick in the 30 is to get it to regen back to 100% from 99%. Little things please little minds. Good cars, Leafses.

Edited by Bannock on Friday 17th June 14:42

TheDeuce

21,558 posts

66 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Bannock said:
In my Leaf 30, I can see regen happening even if I'm at 100% battery indicated. Wasn't the case in my previous Leaf 24 (had to use a few percents int hat before it would let regen happen), but my favourite trick in the 30 is to get it to regen back to 100% from 99%. Little things please little minds. Good cars, Leafses.
How's that possible? You must live at the top of a big hill!

Bannock

4,637 posts

30 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
Bannock said:
In my Leaf 30, I can see regen happening even if I'm at 100% battery indicated. Wasn't the case in my previous Leaf 24 (had to use a few percents in that before it would let regen happen), but my favourite trick in the 30 is to get it to regen back to 100% from 99%. Little things please little minds. Good cars, Leafses.
How's that possible? You must live at the top of a big hill!
Ha ha, yeah, you've sussed me out! I do live at the top of a dip, when I leave the house I'm immediately going down hill, followed by an equal uphill bit immediately, then a flat bit of main road for a couple of hundred metres, then another downhill bit for about 1/4 mile. My record is to travel about 2 miles and still be showing 100%, even though the car is only a 120-mile ranger at best, so it usually uses about 1% per mile. It keeps me amused.

TheDeuce

21,558 posts

66 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Bannock said:
TheDeuce said:
Bannock said:
In my Leaf 30, I can see regen happening even if I'm at 100% battery indicated. Wasn't the case in my previous Leaf 24 (had to use a few percents in that before it would let regen happen), but my favourite trick in the 30 is to get it to regen back to 100% from 99%. Little things please little minds. Good cars, Leafses.
How's that possible? You must live at the top of a big hill!
Ha ha, yeah, you've sussed me out! I do live at the top of a dip, when I leave the house I'm immediately going down hill, followed by an equal uphill bit immediately, then a flat bit of main road for a couple of hundred metres, then another downhill bit for about 1/4 mile. My record is to travel about 2 miles and still be showing 100%, even though the car is only a 120-mile ranger at best, so it usually uses about 1% per mile. It keeps me amused.
It's just a shame all your hard work is undone when you go back up the hill to get home smile


motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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My Good Lady's 2014 Nissan Leaf: acceleration too brisk when I leave my local Chinese takeaway. There's a speed camera only a few yards along the road and if I don't set the speed limiter before I drive off, I'll be getting flashed for sure because of my need to get home while the food is hot. Oh, and it chews front tyres if you use the acceleration too enthusiastically. Something more powerful must get through tyres at an alarming rate because the take-off speed is addictive on a mere Leaf.

TheDeuce

21,558 posts

66 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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motco said:
My Good Lady's 2014 Nissan Leaf: acceleration too brisk when I leave my local Chinese takeaway. There's a speed camera only a few yards along the road and if I don't set the speed limiter before I drive off, I'll be getting flashed for sure because of my need to get home while the food is hot. Oh, and it chews front tyres if you use the acceleration too enthusiastically. Something more powerful must get through tyres at an alarming rate because the take-off speed is addictive on a mere Leaf.
You're doing the takeaway thing all wrong. You have to drive home slowly in case you need to brake, otherwise it falls off the front seat and spills in the footwell wink

This is why you should never step out in front of a car.. if the driver happens to have a takeaway on board, he has a decision to make.

And yes, tyre wear with all the torque in an EV with 400hp is a factor! I think the dual motors help as there is seldom ever any wheelspin, but the tyres still get scubbed under hard acceleration. The fronts also have to cope with a lot of weight when nipping around roundabouts etc.

Bannock

4,637 posts

30 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
It's just a shame all your hard work is undone when you go back up the hill to get home smile
Yes yes we don't talk about that, now do we.

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motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
motco said:
My Good Lady's 2014 Nissan Leaf: acceleration too brisk when I leave my local Chinese takeaway. There's a speed camera only a few yards along the road and if I don't set the speed limiter before I drive off, I'll be getting flashed for sure because of my need to get home while the food is hot. Oh, and it chews front tyres if you use the acceleration too enthusiastically. Something more powerful must get through tyres at an alarming rate because the take-off speed is addictive on a mere Leaf.
You're doing the takeaway thing all wrong. You have to drive home slowly in case you need to brake, otherwise it falls off the front seat and spills in the footwell wink

This is why you should never step out in front of a car.. if the driver happens to have a takeaway on board, he has a decision to make.

And yes, tyre wear with all the torque in an EV with 400hp is a factor! I think the dual motors help as there is seldom ever any wheelspin, but the tyres still get scubbed under hard acceleration. The fronts also have to cope with a lot of weight when nipping around roundabouts etc.
All very good points, but my old (2007) X-Type has a curry hook on the glove box lid! That is what I call civilised! It's like a gimbal; the curry cannot spill while it's on the curry hook.

Bannock

4,637 posts

30 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Good Lord, who collects takeaway these days, there are people to do that for you! Crack open beer/wine, glug glug, sit back and wait for Pedro to turn up on his Honda 50.

motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Bannock said:
Good Lord, who collects takeaway these days, there are people to do that for you! Crack open beer/wine, glug glug, sit back and wait for Pedro to turn up on his Honda 50.
In town, maybe, but I'm a bit in the sticks and deliveries can take hours. My Chinese, by far the best in the area, doesn't do deliveries, nor has it a website. But the food.... cloud9