What are some non-obvious issues you have with your EV?

What are some non-obvious issues you have with your EV?

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TheDeuce

21,824 posts

67 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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motco said:
Bannock said:
Good Lord, who collects takeaway these days, there are people to do that for you! Crack open beer/wine, glug glug, sit back and wait for Pedro to turn up on his Honda 50.
In town, maybe, but I'm a bit in the sticks and deliveries can take hours. My Chinese, by far the best in the area, doesn't do deliveries, nor has it a website. But the food.... cloud9
The best Chinese takeaways always make life difficult! Ours still won't accept anything but cash despite two years of people being told to avoid cash if possible. That's some stubbornness (one suspects the tax savings might outstrip any lost business though... whistle )

And they don't deliver and won't play ball with deliveroo etc. None of this would be an issue if it weren't for the fact I've always had beer by the time I decide we need a Chinese..


Bannock

4,756 posts

31 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Then I must live in a blessed place, I have no such problems! My decent local Chinese (and Indian, and Kebab house) usually manages to get a meal to me in under 30 minutes!

motco

15,974 posts

247 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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The very best Chinese I ever knew was called Jasmine in Beaconsfield. I lived there for many years and it seemed to be a favourite with wealthier locals in the restaurant part - it had a delicious habit of offering takeaway customers a free container of duck fat at Christmas for your roast potatoes. Sadly the lady proprietor retired and the place closed own at about the time I moved away. Another eat in or takeaway in Beaconsfield was/is China Diner and one of the regular patrons when he was married to Rula Lenska was the late Dennis Waterman.

TheDeuce

21,824 posts

67 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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This thread might have slipped a little off topic rofl

But I guess the conclusion is that there's so little wrong with EV's as a daily that we'd rather talk about takeaways.

I had bought stuff to BBQ today, but now all I want is a Chinese!

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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I’ve just had a sms offering my 20% off Chinese this weekend.
I too am about to bbq

TheDeuce

21,824 posts

67 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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I've just told Mrs deuce the BBQ is off, it's a Chinese.

I blamed pistonheads.

Turtle Shed

1,548 posts

27 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Range estimate software is woeful in my Leaf.

Wife drives to golf club a lot, last three miles back home are downhill. Car seems to base its calculations on recent use, consequently the range showing at home when wife has been to the golf club is an overestimate. Will often read 90 after an overnight charge, it means 70.

Why the thing can't just base the range calc on the entire history of usage is beyond me.

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Turtle Shed said:
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Why the thing can't just base the range calc on the entire history of usage is beyond me.
I just look at the reported capacity and do some maths.

SWoll

18,477 posts

259 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
I've just told Mrs deuce the BBQ is off, it's a Chinese.

I blamed pistonheads.
PH EV thread mind transfer is also a thing it would appear. First time I've visited this thread today yet decided earlier to avoid the BBQ and ordered Chinese from just eat for the first time.

It was delicious BTW. smile

foggy

1,162 posts

283 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Good luck if it gets damaged! The repair industry is challenged managing more complex EV damage, parts availability can be limited and there are some novel processes and special tools for recommissioning batteries and cooling systems etc.

boombang

551 posts

175 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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foggy said:
Good luck if it gets damaged! The repair industry is challenged managing more complex EV damage, parts availability can be limited and there are some novel processes and special tools for recommissioning batteries and cooling systems etc.
Is that your experience with your EV?

ashenfie

716 posts

47 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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The elephant in the room is cost of purchase. Nearly all the posting by ev users avoid factoring in the cost of purchase in favour of efficiency comparisons. The calculation for run a car has not changed in the last 100year. Simply getting electricity prices vary hugely depending on source and make it more complex.

I have always purchase a car that’s less 20k and 3 years old. I recently purchased a Mini Cooper and avoided the ev simply on cost of purchase grounds.

TheRainMaker

6,352 posts

243 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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Picking up a wet muddy charging cable is a bit of a pain, a few weeks back I charged at a very nice hotel which had free charging so would be rude not to use it.

Nice and dry when I parked up, came back out and it had poured down, cable now sat in 2 inches of muddy water 🙁.

Hands covered in mud, boot covered in mud and wet cable.

Diderot

7,339 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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ashenfie said:
The elephant in the room is cost of purchase. Nearly all the posting by ev users avoid factoring in the cost of purchase in favour of efficiency comparisons. The calculation for run a car has not changed in the last 100year. Simply getting electricity prices vary hugely depending on source and make it more complex.

I have always purchase a car that’s less 20k and 3 years old. I recently purchased a Mini Cooper and avoided the ev simply on cost of purchase grounds.
Mine’s leased through my Ltd company.

ashenfie

716 posts

47 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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Diderot said:
ashenfie said:
The elephant in the room is cost of purchase. Nearly all the posting by ev users avoid factoring in the cost of purchase in favour of efficiency comparisons. The calculation for run a car has not changed in the last 100year. Simply getting electricity prices vary hugely depending on source and make it more complex.

I have always purchase a car that’s less 20k and 3 years old. I recently purchased a Mini Cooper and avoided the ev simply on cost of purchase grounds.
Mine’s leased through my Ltd company.
Yes a definite benefit but the cost of owner calculation does not change, simply much more likely to significantly save due to TAX rules.

SWoll

18,477 posts

259 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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ashenfie said:
Yes a definite benefit but the cost of owner calculation does not change, simply much more likely to significantly save due to TAX rules.
I'd be interested in seeing your TCO calculation for ICE v EV. How about comparing a new £26.5k Mini Cooper S with a new £29.5k Mini EV as they are almost identical in spec and performance.

3 years and 30k miles. Depreciation, servicing, fuel, RFL etc. Which will cost the owner more in your estimation?

You could compare personal leases, but as the EV only costs £15 more a month I'd suggest it's pretty clear which is the winner there?

https://leasing.com/car-leasing/mini/hatchback/hat...

https://leasing.com/car-leasing/mini/hatchback/ele...

Edited by SWoll on Saturday 18th June 10:25

TheDeuce

21,824 posts

67 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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ashenfie said:
Diderot said:
ashenfie said:
The elephant in the room is cost of purchase. Nearly all the posting by ev users avoid factoring in the cost of purchase in favour of efficiency comparisons. The calculation for run a car has not changed in the last 100year. Simply getting electricity prices vary hugely depending on source and make it more complex.

I have always purchase a car that’s less 20k and 3 years old. I recently purchased a Mini Cooper and avoided the ev simply on cost of purchase grounds.
Mine’s leased through my Ltd company.
Yes a definite benefit but the cost of owner calculation does not change, simply much more likely to significantly save due to TAX rules.
The savings are huge. My £83k EV is leased at 500 a month.id have to take 900 out as salary to get the same after tax. It also saves the company thousands in CT which is more for us take as dividends/good for the company.

And no road tax. And all the other bills are through the company so pre tax too.


Diderot

7,339 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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TheDeuce said:
ashenfie said:
Diderot said:
ashenfie said:
The elephant in the room is cost of purchase. Nearly all the posting by ev users avoid factoring in the cost of purchase in favour of efficiency comparisons. The calculation for run a car has not changed in the last 100year. Simply getting electricity prices vary hugely depending on source and make it more complex.

I have always purchase a car that’s less 20k and 3 years old. I recently purchased a Mini Cooper and avoided the ev simply on cost of purchase grounds.
Mine’s leased through my Ltd company.
Yes a definite benefit but the cost of owner calculation does not change, simply much more likely to significantly save due to TAX rules.
The savings are huge. My £83k EV is leased at 500 a month.id have to take 900 out as salary to get the same after tax. It also saves the company thousands in CT which is more for us take as dividends/good for the company.

And no road tax. And all the other bills are through the company so pre tax too.
Yes indeed. Massive savings.

KGV

88 posts

247 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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Not sure if this is an issue on non-ev new cars, but my 12v battery failed in my 2017 i3 and the car was 'bricked'. The doors would not open without using the manual key (I had to look up the procedure on the internet). The e-brake was also stuck on. Fortunately this happened in my garage parking spot but had this happened just after backing up or while on the road it would have blocked traffic. There is a emergency cable to open the front hood, but no way to release the e-brake if the 12v battery fails. The ADAC guy had to go through his online manual to 'jump' the car. This was his first service call for an EV. The 12v was replaced under warranty.

South tdf

1,531 posts

196 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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TheRainMaker said:
Picking up a wet muddy charging cable is a bit of a pain, a few weeks back I charged at a very nice hotel which had free charging so would be rude not to use it.

Nice and dry when I parked up, came back out and it had poured down, cable now sat in 2 inches of muddy water ??.

Hands covered in mud, boot covered in mud and wet cable.
It’s a first world problem. My solution is one of those Really useful storage boxes which also comes in handy for putting bottles in having once had a bottle of milk split in the boot.