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I’m still told mate silver should be available for early pre orders.
Unsure whether to keep it now as been reading about only 250 mile range, meaning nearer 200 miles real world and obviously less if you use the power.
That’s quite a bit less than current M3P and scares me a bit when I hear of 200 real world mile range.
Unsure whether to keep it now as been reading about only 250 mile range, meaning nearer 200 miles real world and obviously less if you use the power.
That’s quite a bit less than current M3P and scares me a bit when I hear of 200 real world mile range.
Most accounts I’ve read seem to suggest that Tesla range estimates are exaggerated whereas other manufacturers’ ones are conservative, or at least more realistic.
On paper my M3P has a range of 310 miles but I feel pretty confident in saying that I don’t think I’d get more than 250, and that would be driving it with range in mind.
On paper my M3P has a range of 310 miles but I feel pretty confident in saying that I don’t think I’d get more than 250, and that would be driving it with range in mind.
stabilio said:
I’m still told mate silver should be available for early pre orders.
Unsure whether to keep it now as been reading about only 250 mile range, meaning nearer 200 miles real world and obviously less if you use the power.
That’s quite a bit less than current M3P and scares me a bit when I hear of 200 real world mile range.
A few factors to consider.Unsure whether to keep it now as been reading about only 250 mile range, meaning nearer 200 miles real world and obviously less if you use the power.
That’s quite a bit less than current M3P and scares me a bit when I hear of 200 real world mile range.
How often are you driving beyond 200 miles where you would need to charge away from home?
How much better is the charge curve on the Kia than the Tesla? (based on current models the answer is significantly)
We moved from an M3P to and etron 55 12 months ago. On the rare occasion we do need to charge publicly, the far superior charge curve actually improves the experience despite the drop in absolute range, and you're still taking 3+ hours of driving before needing to stop.
And as Durzel mentions above, I'd also expect the Kia to hit its numbers rather than fall well short based on what we've seen previously.
Durzel said:
Most accounts I’ve read seem to suggest that Tesla range estimates are exaggerated whereas other manufacturers’ ones are conservative, or at least more realistic.
On paper my M3P has a range of 310 miles but I feel pretty confident in saying that I don’t think I’d get more than 250, and that would be driving it with range in mind.
The reduction in range puzzles me, I would have thought that given there is no physical connection between the front and rear wheels, and the motor power can be electronically limited, surely an eco mode which decouples one motor / set of wheels and reduces the power of the remaining one would give similar range to the RWD version? Or maybe it already does this already! On paper my M3P has a range of 310 miles but I feel pretty confident in saying that I don’t think I’d get more than 250, and that would be driving it with range in mind.
Nevertheless I’m still looking forward to my, black (frustratingly) one coming some time next year.
Greedydog said:
Durzel said:
Most accounts I’ve read seem to suggest that Tesla range estimates are exaggerated whereas other manufacturers’ ones are conservative, or at least more realistic.
On paper my M3P has a range of 310 miles but I feel pretty confident in saying that I don’t think I’d get more than 250, and that would be driving it with range in mind.
The reduction in range puzzles me, I would have thought that given there is no physical connection between the front and rear wheels, and the motor power can be electronically limited, surely an eco mode which decouples one motor / set of wheels and reduces the power of the remaining one would give similar range to the RWD version? Or maybe it already does this already! On paper my M3P has a range of 310 miles but I feel pretty confident in saying that I don’t think I’d get more than 250, and that would be driving it with range in mind.
Nevertheless I’m still looking forward to my, black (frustratingly) one coming some time next year.
It's certainly the case if you spec a BMW i5 M50 with the optional 20" wheels, rear arch trims and pirelli P-Zero's you lose 50 miles of range. There's a similar drop between the Model 3 LR on 18's and Performance on 20's despite very little other difference.
SWoll said:
I'd suggest additional aero appendages, bigger wheels and stickier tyres are what are robbing most of the range in the GT.
It's certainly the case if you spec a BMW i5 M50 with the optional 20" wheels, rear arch trims and pirelli P-Zero's you lose 50 miles of range. There's a similar drop between the Model 3 LR on 18's and Performance on 20's despite very little other difference.
It will vary even within BMW models The iX I've ordered, loses just 2 miles of range according to the configurator, going from standard 21 to optional 22 inch wheels. It's certainly the case if you spec a BMW i5 M50 with the optional 20" wheels, rear arch trims and pirelli P-Zero's you lose 50 miles of range. There's a similar drop between the Model 3 LR on 18's and Performance on 20's despite very little other difference.
raspy said:
SWoll said:
I'd suggest additional aero appendages, bigger wheels and stickier tyres are what are robbing most of the range in the GT.
It's certainly the case if you spec a BMW i5 M50 with the optional 20" wheels, rear arch trims and pirelli P-Zero's you lose 50 miles of range. There's a similar drop between the Model 3 LR on 18's and Performance on 20's despite very little other difference.
It will vary even within BMW models The iX I've ordered, loses just 2 miles of range according to the configurator, going from standard 21 to optional 22 inch wheels. It's certainly the case if you spec a BMW i5 M50 with the optional 20" wheels, rear arch trims and pirelli P-Zero's you lose 50 miles of range. There's a similar drop between the Model 3 LR on 18's and Performance on 20's despite very little other difference.
The EV6 GT has different front bumper with larger vents, 2" bigger wheels with a far more open design and performance tyres in comparison to a RWD GT-Line model as mentioned above.
One of the really nice things about the KIA ordering process is that there are literally no options apart from the colour. You pick one of the four spec levels and FWD, AWD or GT and that’s it. If you pick the top spec you get everything. It’s very refreshing compared to the maze of options on an Audi or BMW or something.
Tobermory said:
One of the really nice things about the KIA ordering process is that there are literally no options apart from the colour. You pick one of the four spec levels and FWD, AWD or GT and that’s it. If you pick the top spec you get everything. It’s very refreshing compared to the maze of options on an Audi or BMW or something.
Never understood this viewpoint.It really benefits the manufacturer rather than the consumer as offers simpler production and can often leave people paying for optons they don't want in order to get ones that they do?
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