Kia EV6 GT

[CloudStuff]

RossP said:

CloudStuff said:

Any reviews / observations from EV6 GT owners? Happy with your choice?

Had mine since Jan and love it!

Did a 2,700 mile road trip in Europe a few weeks ago and the car performed brilliantly.

Anything in particular you want to know?

Thanks Ross, I've owned a Taycan Turbo, and am familair with what that kind of power in an EV feels like. I'm not worried about range at all. Also, internal quality and infotainment / software aren't that much a concern either way, so I guess my main interest is really that gut feel - as an enthusiast, are you happy with your choice. Good to hear you like it!

[Durzel]

OT but what was your thoughts about the Taycan Turbo? I really like the look of them, and I'm sure the refinement etc is as you would expect. My main concern is how quickly it would be eclipsed by newer versoins of it.

[fatjon]

Had an EV6 GT for 3 months. Best car I ever bought by a country mile. Range is a bit better than advertised but not much better. Performance is mind blowing. Cerbera 4.5 feels pedestrian in comparison.

It was an upgrade from a GTLS which was also brilliant but double the HP doubles the fun.

[RossP]

CloudStuff said:

Thanks Ross, I've owned a Taycan Turbo, and am familair with what that kind of power in an EV feels like. I'm not worried about range at all. Also, internal quality and infotainment / software aren't that much a concern either way, so I guess my main interest is really that gut feel - as an enthusiast, are you happy with your choice. Good to hear you like it!

Yes, very happy. It is on a 3 year biz lease but if they offer me a reasonable price to buy at the end I will be doing so.

[CloudStuff]

Durzel said:

OT but what was your thoughts about the Taycan Turbo? I really like the look of them, and I'm sure the refinement etc is as you would expect. My main concern is how quickly it would be eclipsed by newer versoins of it.

What a car. Simply amazing. Totally unnecessary, but all the better for it.

I specced it from new and made sure it had all the chassis / drive train toys - PDCC (dynamic chassis), rear wheel steering, chrono, PASM (adaptive dampers), Air suspension, PTV (LSD) and for me this took it to another level. Also chose the 20" wheels, rather than 21s.

The Turbo S would have been too much for me, this was already ott. It just felt really well resolved, a really cohesive package which could be savagely fast, would ride and handle well and made me forget that ICE cars even existed when driving it.

It was the cross turismo version too, so had extra utility.

BUT, I was lucky - I had no faults with it. Some owners experienced an unacceptable series of faults which would have turned me into a hater really quickly. I got out with a small profit, too in the end. The depreciation now is probably marriage straining for most.

It was a £134k car though, and makes the EV6 GT looks like a bargain. I am sure it will be quickly eclisped, but will make a used bargain in the future. I could imagine picking one up when they drop below 40, with an OPC warranty of course.

[Durzel]

CloudStuff said:

Durzel said:

OT but what was your thoughts about the Taycan Turbo? I really like the look of them, and I'm sure the refinement etc is as you would expect. My main concern is how quickly it would be eclipsed by newer versoins of it.

What a car. Simply amazing. Totally unnecessary, but all the better for it.

I specced it from new and made sure it had all the chassis / drive train toys - PDCC (dynamic chassis), rear wheel steering, chrono, PASM (adaptive dampers), Air suspension, PTV (LSD) and for me this took it to another level. Also chose the 20" wheels, rather than 21s.

The Turbo S would have been too much for me, this was already ott. It just felt really well resolved, a really cohesive package which could be savagely fast, would ride and handle well and made me forget that ICE cars even existed when driving it.

It was the cross turismo version too, so had extra utility.

BUT, I was lucky - I had no faults with it. Some owners experienced an unacceptable series of faults which would have turned me into a hater really quickly. I got out with a small profit, too in the end. The depreciation now is probably marriage straining for most.

It was a £134k car though, and makes the EV6 GT looks like a bargain. I am sure it will be quickly eclisped, but will make a used bargain in the future. I could imagine picking one up when they drop below 40, with an OPC warranty of course.

Thanks. I keep having my head turned by them, the only thing holding me back is the thought in the back of my head that Porsche has only really just started "doing EVs", and what that might mean for reliability etc. I''m vaguely aware of the endemic heater issues, etc.

They certainly have some serious road prescence though.

[blueg33]

A couple of weeks ago, I had a day driving a Taycan Turbo S. Very fast, very refined, very comfortable, handles well and hides its weight. The car I borrowed (from a friend) was fully specced list price at the spec is £181k

I reckon it will lose nearly £100k in the first 2 years

[RossP]

blueg33 said:

A couple of weeks ago, I had a day driving a Taycan Turbo S. Very fast, very refined, very comfortable, handles well and hides its weight. The car I borrowed (from a friend) was fully specced list price at the spec is £181k

I reckon it will lose nearly £100k in the first 2 years

That's crazy money! I did briefly consider a Taycan before the EV6.

I reasoned that although the price was higher - you need to spend about £100k to get something decent, the residuals might also be better than a Kia so the lease might be less. But it wasn't the case at all, it would have cost me more ££££ per month than I was prepared to pay.

I managed to get the Kia at a low price as I put down a reservation deposit when they were first announced which locked it in at £58k, but with residuals calculated on the list price at the time I took delivery which made the payments very reasonable indeed! Especially as I run it thought the business.

[Murph7355]

CloudStuff said:

Thanks Ross, I've owned a Taycan Turbo, and am familair with what that kind of power in an EV feels like. I'm not worried about range at all. Also, internal quality and infotainment / software aren't that much a concern either way, so I guess my main interest is really that gut feel - as an enthusiast, are you happy with your choice. Good to hear you like it!

I think you may end up regretting interior quality and cars aren't all about power.

I test drove both the Kia and the Porsche. The Kia is a very good car... But I always found myself adding "for the money" once I'd driven the Taycan.

There are really nice software touches in the Kia that Porsche could learn from. But the Porsche drives much better and feels a lot nicer inside. It also looks better. (All subjective of course).

Taycan depreciation is heavy currently due to Porsche fk ups. But there's only so far they'll drop... Other marques will create a floor.

(Not anti-Kia either... Will be seriously considering an EV9 when our XC90 needs to go).

[CloudStuff]

Murph7355 said:

CloudStuff said:

Thanks Ross, I've owned a Taycan Turbo, and am familair with what that kind of power in an EV feels like. I'm not worried about range at all. Also, internal quality and infotainment / software aren't that much a concern either way, so I guess my main interest is really that gut feel - as an enthusiast, are you happy with your choice. Good to hear you like it!

I think you may end up regretting interior quality and cars aren't all about power.

I test drove both the Kia and the Porsche. The Kia is a very good car... But I always found myself adding "for the money" once I'd driven the Taycan.

There are really nice software touches in the Kia that Porsche could learn from. But the Porsche drives much better and feels a lot nicer inside. It also looks better. (All subjective of course).

Taycan depreciation is heavy currently due to Porsche fk ups. But there's only so far they'll drop... Other marques will create a floor.

(Not anti-Kia either... Will be seriously considering an EV9 when our XC90 needs to go).

Quite possibly true. I find that my tolerance for poo interior quality is aligned to price. My Taycan was good, but I'm not sure how long that wold have lasted. Also, 992 interior materials and quality are not good enough. Audi standards creeping in there.

Given the reviews though, the Ioniq 5 N sounds like a really fun car. For an EV. So that may be the one to go for.

[CloudStuff]

If I were to 'get back into' a Taycan, this would be the one. All the right options for me:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

[sherbertdip]

Is £55.5k for a pre-option spec'd new car worth looking at?

Still a lot of money, and are these being hammered by insurance companies like performance Teslas?

[Murph7355]

CloudStuff said:

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Given the reviews though, the Ioniq 5 N sounds like a really fun car. For an EV. So that may be the one to go for.

Not convinced.

"For an EV" kills it IMO

[TheDeuce]

Murph7355 said:

CloudStuff said:

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Given the reviews though, the Ioniq 5 N sounds like a really fun car. For an EV. So that may be the one to go for.

Not convinced.

"For an EV" kills it IMO

These high powered EV's with rear drive bias and the ability to turn off DSC (aka "drift mode") are great fun though. The only problem is that a power slide in an AWD vehicle requires approx twice the speed to sustain as in a rear wheel drive car so... You have to be pretty confident! Or if you want the easy, low skill, low speed option, ICE remains available

I tried my current EV with DSC fully off on a runway typically used for filming today, and it was frankly - terrifying. But it was also fun and very impressive. You shouldn't doubt the ability to have fun with a decent EV, clearly there is power and torque in excess, the potential for a lot of fun is there. The only issue is that there is in fact so much potential you need to have big balls and/or plenty of tarmac to 'go there'.

On the flip side these cars are so tight and safe with the DSC and torque vectoring in place, that with zero skill or risk you can absolutely destroy a b-road, along with pretty much any other car that happens to be on it. EV's make far more efficient use of the maximum mechanical grip available and are next to unbeatable in the real world, no matter what ICE car you choose. That is a different kind of fun - even if you are far too polite to show off, it's nice to know you could

The deeper I go down my EV driving career, the more I realise that there is no competition between ICE and BEV. The two are so different in terms of how they drive, how you can misbehave and have fun, that comparison or prejudice is pointless.

[Murph7355]

TheDeuce said:

The deeper I go down my EV driving career, the more I realise that there is no competition between ICE and BEV. The two are so different in terms of how they drive, how you can misbehave and have fun, that comparison or prejudice is pointless.

Totally agree.

What I was picking up on is that there should be no need to suffix with "for an EV" any more. There are plenty that are simply good cars. (I include the EV6 in that).

[wong]

Considering a used EV6 GT, as they are mid £40K now.

Are the back seats OK for 3 adults. I know they recline and there is lots of leg room. Thinking more of shoulder room. I have three teenagers and they complain about the middle seat.
Any updates from owners

[MrB.]

Just reviewed one again for my YouTube channel. Much bigger in the rear then the two cars we compared it to (Mustang Mach E GT and Genesis GV60 Sport Plus). Leg room is excellent, but watch headroom. Feels more enclosed due roof and dark roof lining. Good car, but in my opinion, not the best EV6.

Room across the back bench is ok, and middle passenger should be alright as long as they aren’t 6ft each.

[740EVTORQUES]

MrB. said:

Just reviewed one again for my YouTube channel. Much bigger in the rear then the two cars we compared it to (Mustang Mach E GT and Genesis GV60 Sport Plus). Leg room is excellent, but watch headroom. Feels more enclosed due roof and dark roof lining. Good car, but in my opinion, not the best EV6.

Room across the back bench is ok, and middle passenger should be alright as long as they aren’t 6ft each.

Nice review. By the way the seats don’t rattle, that was the seat belt not retracted properly and wedged next to the passenger door. Irritating and they ought to fix it with proper guides in a refresh but easy to avoid.

Done 17,000 miles in mine, not a single issue, great cars

Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Tuesday 2nd April 12:14

[JNW1]

MrB. said:

Just reviewed one again for my YouTube channel. Much bigger in the rear then the two cars we compared it to (Mustang Mach E GT and Genesis GV60 Sport Plus). Leg room is excellent, but watch headroom. Feels more enclosed due roof and dark roof lining. Good car, but in my opinion, not the best EV6.

Room across the back bench is ok, and middle passenger should be alright as long as they aren’t 6ft each.

Out of interest which do you consider to be the best of the EV6's?

[740EVTORQUES]

JNW1 said:

MrB. said:

Just reviewed one again for my YouTube channel. Much bigger in the rear then the two cars we compared it to (Mustang Mach E GT and Genesis GV60 Sport Plus). Leg room is excellent, but watch headroom. Feels more enclosed due roof and dark roof lining. Good car, but in my opinion, not the best EV6.

Room across the back bench is ok, and middle passenger should be alright as long as they aren’t 6ft each.

Out of interest which do you consider to be the best of the EV6's?

For 95% of people either a basic air or the GT line S which is very similar to the GT minus 250bhp or so.

The drawback with the GT is lower range, harder ride (bigger wheels and sporty tyres), more tyre noise, manual non ventilated seats (heated though and very comfy) and no sunroof.

But the suspension is much more sophisticated with active dampers, bigger brakes and an eDiff, the interior ambience and comfort are better (the alcantara like buckets are lovely and heated front and rear, and not being faux leather don’t get hot in summer anyway) and it’s ballistic. The price difference is so small it’s hard not to think KIA are only breaking even on the halo GT model given all the extra hardware.

Depends what your priorities are really. They’re all great cars. I don’t need the extra range so for me it’s a no brainer. 30-70 in 2.5 secs never gets old.