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The skateboard model will leave drivers sitting too high.
Either put batteries fire/aft of the cabin (or at least the hip point - you could have raised pedals above hip height, perhaps but impractical for a road car) or sit the driver in the middle of a ‘battery bathtub’ a bit like the first monocoque 60s f1 cars.
Either put batteries fire/aft of the cabin (or at least the hip point - you could have raised pedals above hip height, perhaps but impractical for a road car) or sit the driver in the middle of a ‘battery bathtub’ a bit like the first monocoque 60s f1 cars.
kambites said:
NMNeil said:
But be honest, given the choice would you buy the concept MG or the one destined for production?
The production one because it looks like I might be able to look through (as opposed to over) the windscreen and it seems plausible for it to have some suspension travel 
NMNeil said:
Look at this picture:
Unless that guy is a giant, it's clearly far smaller than the Corvette and also has the wheels tucked up far closer to the tops of the wheel arches (which is par for the course for a concept, but could never happen on a real car). The Corvette looks like it's on stilts in comparison!
SWoll said:
In 1991 there was very little choice in the 2 door sportscar market other than the MX5/Miata, especially if you wanted RWD. It took until the mid/late 90's for the likes of Lotus, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes to launch products so should come as no surprise that sales figures changed. I'd also suggest that older drivers are less concerned about the "hairdressers car" image that the MX5 has garnered over the years and of course the 30-49 year old's who bought MX5's back in the early 90's are now the same 60+ group buying them in 2020.
We'll 100% see roadsters from all of the usual suspects over the coming years I'm sure, still early days in the world of EV's.
Sure, for a while Mazda had direct competition, roughly 1994 to 2005, or 2010 if you include the Solstice.We'll 100% see roadsters from all of the usual suspects over the coming years I'm sure, still early days in the world of EV's.
While there was a little crossover between the base 4-cylinder Z3 annd the MX5, now, a top of the line MX5 is £32,000, but an entry level Z4 is £40,000. These cars don't directly compete.
In 1991, instead of a £15,000 MX5, you could have got a BMW Z1, Lotus Elan M100 or TVR S1
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/comparis...
The reason for the pent up demand for the MX5 is curious. BL didn't stop selling MGBs, Midgets and Spitfires because of terrible sales. Sales were pretty decent at the end, even for models that were considered very dated. BL bailed because they thought roadsters were going to get banned in the US, and that's where most of their sales had always been.
So has the market for the affordable roadster just gone away, and will never come back once the 60+ year old MX5 owners pop their clogs, or can it be revived? Or has tribal memory now just gone.
Obviously SAIC has spent 10 years wondering what they are going to do with MG. 2005-2010, they didn't do that much, at one point trying to call MG "Modern Gentleman". 2010 was the Icon concept; the same idea as the 2009 Nissan Qazana concept, that became the Juke. I always thought the Icon looked good, better than the Juke, and the Juke sold really well. MG came close with the E-Motion, but that looks shelved. The concept looked good, the tradmark office renders showed a car that looked rather plain, ad about 5 years old. I suspect in the end it wasn't made as the batteries weren't good enough, and the dynamics of that car might have harmed the long term image of MG, or whatever they are trying to achieve.
I suppose MG doesn't really need to make any money from the MG-C. Old fashioned halo car. Alfa Romeo probably didn't make any money on the 4C; complicated to build and they had to subcontract assembly to Maserati. MG has clearly come back from the dead, and that doesn't happen often with car brands (though ticked up with EVs, as various start ups scour the trademarks). But has it come back purely because its a cheap brand. Probably, but I suspect the owners of MG want you to buy MG because of that badge, not because of the price. Because then it becomes the money making machine.
kambites said:
NMNeil said:
Look at this picture:Unless that guy is a giant, it's clearly far smaller than the Corvette and also has the wheels tucked up far closer to the tops of the wheel arches (which is par for the course for a concept, but could never happen on a real car). The Corvette looks like it's on stilts in comparison!
kambites said:
NMNeil said:
Look at this picture:Unless that guy is a giant, it's clearly far smaller than the Corvette and also has the wheels tucked up far closer to the tops of the wheel arches (which is par for the course for a concept, but could never happen on a real car). The Corvette looks like it's on stilts in comparison!
ashenfie said:
kambites said:
NMNeil said:
Look at this picture:Unless that guy is a giant, it's clearly far smaller than the Corvette and also has the wheels tucked up far closer to the tops of the wheel arches (which is par for the course for a concept, but could never happen on a real car). The Corvette looks like it's on stilts in comparison!
ashenfie said:
kambites said:
NMNeil said:
Look at this picture:Unless that guy is a giant, it's clearly far smaller than the Corvette and also has the wheels tucked up far closer to the tops of the wheel arches (which is par for the course for a concept, but could never happen on a real car). The Corvette looks like it's on stilts in comparison!
Risonax said:
I suppose MG doesn't really need to make any money from the MG-C. Old fashioned halo car. Alfa Romeo probably didn't make any money on the 4C; complicated to build and they had to subcontract assembly to Maserati. MG has clearly come back from the dead, and that doesn't happen often with car brands (though ticked up with EVs, as various start ups scour the trademarks). But has it come back purely because its a cheap brand. Probably, but I suspect the owners of MG want you to buy MG because of that badge, not because of the price. Because then it becomes the money making machine.
Interesting points in there.I think the halo car comment is spot on. I've got a Tesla and an old Boxster. I did a 2,500 mile road trip in the Boxster in September - I would not have enjoyed that as much in an EV. So, as much as I am looking forward to seeing what this MG is like and how it drives, it is probably not going to be one for a lot of older roadster drivers.
But with BMW knocking that Mini EV convertible out for £50k, I am sure that MG will do well with this and it could serve a great purpose for them to raise their profile even more for their more everyday products.
Risonax said:
ashenfie said:
kambites said:
NMNeil said:
Look at this picture:Unless that guy is a giant, it's clearly far smaller than the Corvette and also has the wheels tucked up far closer to the tops of the wheel arches (which is par for the course for a concept, but could never happen on a real car). The Corvette looks like it's on stilts in comparison!
A truckload of them
And one moving under its own steam
https://youtube.com/shorts/tEHu_dU2Y1c?feature=sha...
And one moving under its own steam
https://youtube.com/shorts/tEHu_dU2Y1c?feature=sha...
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