Glass bottles banned at lemans, all campsites.
Discussion
dredgey said:
This same "rule" was floating about last year...
Did everyone have beer and wine in glass bottles? Of course they did. Can you buy Champagne in a box? No. Are the French partial to small bottles of beer and wine? Yes. Does France have a large glass industry? Yes. Is your car going to be searched upon entry of the campsite? No. Is your bag going to be searched when you go into the circuit grounds? No.
Am I concernced? Am I f**k! Will I get pi**ed? Yes. What do the French do when it comes to French rule/laws? Shrug their shoulders and carry on.
Wrong they are searching your cars and bags! With CRS official police overseeing! We know were here on TL site, sorry guys don't know why but they are NOT allowing any bottled beer in campsite here.Did everyone have beer and wine in glass bottles? Of course they did. Can you buy Champagne in a box? No. Are the French partial to small bottles of beer and wine? Yes. Does France have a large glass industry? Yes. Is your car going to be searched upon entry of the campsite? No. Is your bag going to be searched when you go into the circuit grounds? No.
Am I concernced? Am I f**k! Will I get pi**ed? Yes. What do the French do when it comes to French rule/laws? Shrug their shoulders and carry on.
Have no idea why! Rumour is there was a fracas here with Gp fans but as I say we don't know why.
There is no way they are going to be able to enforce a thorough search of every car/bag every time someone arrives. There would be traffic chaos in minutes. Surely they also need a warrant to ransack your car? But then, when have the Frogs ever abided by European Law when it doesn't suit them?
It will be marshals doing any searches. Police would be watching, there to prevent any problems should they occur.
The marshals are not a police/customs etc authority controlled by search regs/laws.
It is like going into a nightclub. You agree to get searched or you simply can't come in. You agree to the condition of entry onto private property.
They will just do the same. No search, no entry onto the campsite.
The glass ban will be branded as an effort to increase the safety of the public. Going against searches etc or complying, you are seen as going against the effort to increase safety and any problems caused to marshals will probably be met by swift action by the crs.
I believe going into festivals has been much the same over the years. Searches done and booze taken off people.
Just remember, it isn't a thing against British people, I'm sure everyone is being given the same rules. So don't be an embarrassment and act like a knob should you get pulled up about glass bottles.
Edited by DS240 on Tuesday 7th June 08:20
Edited by DS240 on Tuesday 7th June 09:21
Tyre Smoke said:
There is no way they are going to be able to enforce a thorough search of every car/bag every time someone arrives. There would be traffic chaos in minutes.
But surely that is the French way. Why would they care about the chaos ? Shrug of the shoulders, mostly Brits in the queue, so what? I've been going there for 20 years and agree that this is well overboard.Surprised at it ? No - because they do what they want and when in France, with the Gendarme breathing down your neck as well, you play with the rule or go home.
Let's just hope that this rule lightens a little nearer the weekend.
DS240 said:
It is like going into a nightclub. You agree to get searched or you simply can't come in. You agree to the condition of entry onto private property.
Just remember, it isn't a thing against British people, I'm sure everyone is being given the same rules. So don't be an embarrassment and act like a knob should you get pulled up about glass bottles.
Perhaps the most sensible thing to appear in this thread.Just remember, it isn't a thing against British people, I'm sure everyone is being given the same rules. So don't be an embarrassment and act like a knob should you get pulled up about glass bottles.
Arguing, in English, with a French jobsworth (with a van full of CRS to back him up...) is, I suspect, going to be an abject lesson on futility.
Now we know we can plan accordingly and stop at a supermarket to load up with cans rather than bottles. And wine boxes rather than bottles.
I'm still somewhat nervous about the bottle of gin and wine glasses and tumblers currently packed in the car, but if I have a 2 litre water bottle in which to decant the gin then I should be OK.
Yes, it's typically French to do this and not tell anyone, and yes it's a pain in the arse. But it's not an insurmountable problem and we can still enjoy a cheeky beer or three.
What I would, strongly, advocate is a total boycott of rip-off beer sellers - if there is a bar in Houx selling beer for €8 a pint then frankly they should be ashamed and I hope everyone avoids them like the plague and spreads the word.
king beer ban at Le Mans and you're worried about someone's f
Im in a motorhome this year, does this mean they will confiscate my olive oil bottle ? my marmite jar, sweet chilli sauce bottle !!! MMMMmmmmmm....... sweet chilli sauce..............they are all glass but dont contain beer which the ACO will sell on site coincidentally.
This is all about money making. Its not about "dongerous" glass bottles, i've never seen a bottle thrown or used inappropriately in seven years. They are selling beer in the circuit so people will get still get pi$$ed anyway. Are they confiscating matches, fireworks, chinese candles, gas stoves, cigarettes, knives and forks ???? all potentially "dongerous" ? No.
This is all about money making. Its not about "dongerous" glass bottles, i've never seen a bottle thrown or used inappropriately in seven years. They are selling beer in the circuit so people will get still get pi$$ed anyway. Are they confiscating matches, fireworks, chinese candles, gas stoves, cigarettes, knives and forks ???? all potentially "dongerous" ? No.
we could do with some facts on this thread I think:
- Which campsites are the bans applying to? Infield only or external too?
- Where can we find a public brief on the expectations being set by the ACO, there's no press release, news article or anything?
How can anyone be expected to comply if we don't know what they are expecting from us?
This sounds like a proper pain in the ass if we're going to be searched on every trip in and out of the campsite and absolute chaos on the roads round the circuit.
As someone says, they only do it once, then the event will be on its knees.
- Which campsites are the bans applying to? Infield only or external too?
- Where can we find a public brief on the expectations being set by the ACO, there's no press release, news article or anything?
How can anyone be expected to comply if we don't know what they are expecting from us?
This sounds like a proper pain in the ass if we're going to be searched on every trip in and out of the campsite and absolute chaos on the roads round the circuit.
As someone says, they only do it once, then the event will be on its knees.
DS240 said:
So don't be an embarrassment and act like a knob should you get pulled up about glass bottles.
There is no need to imply I am going to do anything of the sort. I have no intention of doing anything other than to comply. I have all my cans neatly packed already!Edited by DS240 on Tuesday 7th June 08:20
I was inferring that it will quickly become unworkable as people arrive, and come and go to Carrefour on Friday. But as someone else posted, it's typically French.
I have received a few call about this, and as I understand it a law has been passed prohibiting alcohol (apparently over 4%, but that needs clarification) from being taken inside the circuit in backpacks or in your hand.
The camp site searches were as a result of initial confusion over the new law and searches should not be taking place today, they are only interested in what gets taken inside of the circuit and are threatening to check all entrants to the circuit during the race.
You can still take alcohol onto camp sites outside of the circuit, but you may have to undergo some checking if you are camping inside of the circuit.
Note: This is what I was told when I received a couple of calls from people already in Le Mans last night, I'm not saying it's 100% accurate but I thought I'd pass it on anyway.
The camp site searches were as a result of initial confusion over the new law and searches should not be taking place today, they are only interested in what gets taken inside of the circuit and are threatening to check all entrants to the circuit during the race.
You can still take alcohol onto camp sites outside of the circuit, but you may have to undergo some checking if you are camping inside of the circuit.
Note: This is what I was told when I received a couple of calls from people already in Le Mans last night, I'm not saying it's 100% accurate but I thought I'd pass it on anyway.
This does seem bizarre in terms of rumours here and a rumour there. A ban on anything over 4% would mean all wine would be banned?
There has got to be something from the ACO. Will check their site, but won't hold my breath.
Anyone at the circuit seen any signs indicating rules at the entry points?
There has got to be something from the ACO. Will check their site, but won't hold my breath.
Anyone at the circuit seen any signs indicating rules at the entry points?
DS240 said:
A ban on anything over 4% would mean all wine would be banned?
Apart from that which you can buy inside the circuit of course, presumably at a price which reflects the fact that you can't buy it from anyone else. Seems like a nakedly commercial move to me, and one which football grounds, concert promoters and race organisers in the UK have been up to for years, under the thing veneer of health and safety..Gassing Station | Le Mans | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff