Sticker damage to paint - liability?

Sticker damage to paint - liability?

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Voguely

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340 posts

158 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Hi all,

On removing my decals today, most came off fine with some hot water to loosen them up a bit. One, however, has pulled off almost all the paint underneath it, leaving me with a 8x8cm circle of bumper with no paint on!! Argh! This is on my Aston and as you can imagine I'm fairly distraught!

Has anyone had this happen to them before and managed to successfully get the sticker company to accept some liability? If they are selling something which is designed to be stuck on cars and is advertised as being removable then surely, regardless of what legal disclaimer they put on their website, should do so without damage? I'm have emailed the company in question asking nicely what they advise, hoping they will offer to at least partially cover a respray, but if they refuse where do I stand legally with this?

Thanks in advance

ecsrobin

17,123 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Voguely said:
Hi all,

On removing my decals today, most came off fine with some hot water to loosen them up a bit. One, however, has pulled off almost all the paint underneath it, leaving me with a 8x8cm circle of bumper with no paint on!! Argh! This is on my Aston and as you can imagine I'm fairly distraught!

Has anyone had this happen to them before and managed to successfully get the sticker company to accept some liability? If they are selling something which is designed to be stuck on cars and is advertised as being removable then surely, regardless of what legal disclaimer they put on their website, should do so without damage? I'm have emailed the company in question asking nicely what they advise, hoping they will offer to at least partially cover a respray, but if they refuse where do I stand legally with this?

Thanks in advance
Is this for real??

CoolC

4,216 posts

214 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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If a sticker can pull off paint, then the paint is the issue.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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I own a large format printing company and I would never ever apply vinyl to my own car, you never know if your bodywork is up to it.

Buyer beware and the paint is the issue, not the vinyl.

NickNJ

128 posts

182 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Good luck with that. It'll be your paintwork at fault.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Voguely said:
This is on my Aston and as you can imagine I'm fairly distraught!
1: Grow Up.

2: Accept that you've only yourself to blame for making your nice car look like a five year olds bike.

3: Learn a lesson and make friends with your local body shop.

t400ble

1,804 posts

121 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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In a word,no

Gixer

4,463 posts

248 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Suspect the Aston had a smart repair at some point. Either way its the paint not the sticker. As you said, the others came off fine

haggy

1,955 posts

214 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Never had any problems with stickers coming off before. Like others have said, possible your car has had previous paint repair and not been baked on properly

Dickie Dastardly

718 posts

166 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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I know a couple of people who have had similar issues, there will be definitely no come back on the vinyl provider I'm afraid. Though I guess you're unlikely to apply decals again a good method of removal is to gently soften them with a hair drier first.

As regards the comment about making your car look like a five year old's bike; a bit harsh surely - it's simply a bit of fun which thousands who travel to Le Mans partake in.

CoolHands

18,657 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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I'd sue the tt that applied it! furious

kinabalu

240 posts

199 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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Tip...... next year the week before application, wax the car. Makes putting them on & more importantly removal a breeze.

fatboy18

18,948 posts

211 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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You must use a hair dryer to heat and remove stickers, otherwise your paint or lacquer could become detached.

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

216 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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Sadly this is something that you're going to have to chalk up to experience. frown

There are so many factors to consider but it could be down to a defect in the paint/lacquer, a poor repair, the adhesive and/or how long the vinyl has been applied. Even though some vinyls are marketed as removable, eventually they will really key on to the surface they're applied to if left on long enough and that makes them a royal pain in the backside to remove. If that does happen, gently heating the vinyl with a hair dryer will get it nice and pliable enough to remove.

As someone else previously mentioned, we too run a print company but I certainly wouldn't apply vinyls to my car unless they were ultra removable (that's actually the product name). The only downside is that they may be too easy to remove...


marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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I'd sue the water company and the electricity company, and the kettle manufacturer. Clearly their products fail to achieve the correct conditions for safe sticker removal.

GregorFuk

563 posts

200 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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And THIS is why I only applied stickers to my glass work.

Hard cheese I'm afraid.

JamesBryan88

164 posts

155 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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There's no chance in any compensation really.

The stickers will be sold on the basis of your car having perfect paint condition.

The company are not to know that a certain car will have soft or repaired paint.

A heat gun and pulling the vinyl back on itself when removing is the preferred method.

Voguely

Original Poster:

340 posts

158 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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I did heat the stickers up to remove them (with very hot water) which did work to make the others much more easily removable. I guess the paint on the plastic bumper as opposed to metal panels wasn't on as firmly or, as suggested, had been resprayed at some point (not in my ownership, but could be that someone did it previously to remove stone chips etc I suppose) and wasn't done as well as it could be. Either way, it's rather annoying and has put a bit of a downer on what was a great trip to Le Mans.

ukcobra

211 posts

238 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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Seen this before with a friends TVR, removal of the roundels, caused a circular impact to the paint.
So he gets the same decals each year and overlays them.

For my new paint, I only put them on glass.

SEE YA

3,522 posts

245 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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Its that reasons, why I never think about stickers on my car for LeMans trips. Just in case this happens to me.

Better play safe use the glass for stickers.