Le Mans 24hr Race Thread
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chasingracecars said:
E65Ross said:
You've not been watching Le Mans for very long, have you?
28 years!E65Ross said:
So you have said the same for the best part of your Le Mans experiences? Ever since 2000 there have been many, many dominant performances (most by Audi!) which have been no different to this years race.
But not when they have been the only car in the class and had the backing of the FIA and ACO. This was the Fernando Alonso show. I’m guessing you are an F1 fan and think Alonso is amazing.
What a superb 24 hours of motorsport that was.
Toyota did what they needed to do - bring both cars home 1st & 2nd. Hardly their fault if the opposition buggered off.
They could easily have thrown it away again & left with nothing. But they didn’t. They won. And I think it’s unfair that certain sections of the media, & a number of people on social number, are slagging them off.
As for Alonso. What a great drive he put in last night to claw back that deficit - he can say without fear of contradiction that he won Le Mans on merit.
Far better than the no 7 car being told ‘Fernando is faster you’. He was. On merit.
And the racing in the GT classes was absolutely superb. If only we could get racing like we had this weekend at Paul Ricard in 7 days time.
I managed to watch 19 hours, I recorded the missed 5 hours, so that’s tomorrow sorted.
All in all that was a superb Le Mans.
And a final thank you to Eurosport for unbroken coverage of what clearly is the greatest race.
Toyota did what they needed to do - bring both cars home 1st & 2nd. Hardly their fault if the opposition buggered off.
They could easily have thrown it away again & left with nothing. But they didn’t. They won. And I think it’s unfair that certain sections of the media, & a number of people on social number, are slagging them off.
As for Alonso. What a great drive he put in last night to claw back that deficit - he can say without fear of contradiction that he won Le Mans on merit.
Far better than the no 7 car being told ‘Fernando is faster you’. He was. On merit.
And the racing in the GT classes was absolutely superb. If only we could get racing like we had this weekend at Paul Ricard in 7 days time.
I managed to watch 19 hours, I recorded the missed 5 hours, so that’s tomorrow sorted.
All in all that was a superb Le Mans.
And a final thank you to Eurosport for unbroken coverage of what clearly is the greatest race.
chasingracecars said:
E65Ross said:
So you have said the same for the best part of your Le Mans experiences? Ever since 2000 there have been many, many dominant performances (most by Audi!) which have been no different to this years race.
But not when they have been the only car in the class and had the backing of the FIA and ACO. This was the Fernando Alonso show. I’m guessing you are an F1 fan and think Alonso is amazing.
Despite not liking Alonso, it doesn't make me believe in conspiracy theories though.
A lone factory effort in LMP1 is not unique to 2018 though. Twelve years ago Audi's 2 car R10 effort had a couple of Pescarolo C60 Hybrids as competition along with a raft of privateer LMP1 hopefuls, a race in which a GT1 Corvette finished fourth overall to give an idea of attrition. That Audi victory is not decried, so neither should this Toyota win. They raced the circuit for 24 hours, they deserve this victory.
Look back through the years and more often than not the premier class has had laps between the finishers, it is more often than not the GT classes that provide the closest racing.
Look back through the years and more often than not the premier class has had laps between the finishers, it is more often than not the GT classes that provide the closest racing.
Red Firecracker said:
A lone factory effort in LMP1 is not unique to 2018 though. Twelve years ago Audi's 2 car R10 effort had a couple of Pescarolo C60 Hybrids as competition along with a raft of privateer LMP1 hopefuls, a race in which a GT1 Corvette finished fourth overall to give an idea of attrition. That Audi victory is not decried, so neither should this Toyota win. They raced the circuit for 24 hours, they deserve this victory.
Look back through the years and more often than not the premier class has had laps between the finishers, it is more often than not the GT classes that provide the closest racing.
Exactly so. Look back through the years and more often than not the premier class has had laps between the finishers, it is more often than not the GT classes that provide the closest racing.
Le Mans has always been as much about beating the circuit as beating the competition. Toyota could have fallen at any number of hurdles but they didn't - they won against the circuit. And they won against all the setbacks in the past too.
They deserved this win, and it is a win. I'm disappointed to see so-called "piston heads" saying otherwise.
Great race? Classic? No.
Well I've said my bit about the performance advantage Toyota were given over the other P1s, but as others have said to race that circuit for that long, without major problems and to constantly lap cars on it with the crazy speed difference deserves much credit. Especially after the heartbreak of 2016
I just hope the privateers get a fairer crack at things in 2019 and the ACO drop this B.S. on stint lengths in Gt Pro, the teams should have more freedom on strategy.
As always I'll be looking at going next year!
Well I've said my bit about the performance advantage Toyota were given over the other P1s, but as others have said to race that circuit for that long, without major problems and to constantly lap cars on it with the crazy speed difference deserves much credit. Especially after the heartbreak of 2016
I just hope the privateers get a fairer crack at things in 2019 and the ACO drop this B.S. on stint lengths in Gt Pro, the teams should have more freedom on strategy.
As always I'll be looking at going next year!
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Red Firecracker said:
A lone factory effort in LMP1 is not unique to 2018 though. Twelve years ago Audi's 2 car R10 effort had a couple of Pescarolo C60 Hybrids as competition along with a raft of privateer LMP1 hopefuls, a race in which a GT1 Corvette finished fourth overall to give an idea of attrition. That Audi victory is not decried, so neither should this Toyota win. They raced the circuit for 24 hours, they deserve this victory.
Look back through the years and more often than not the premier class has had laps between the finishers, it is more often than not the GT classes that provide the closest racing.
Exactly so. Look back through the years and more often than not the premier class has had laps between the finishers, it is more often than not the GT classes that provide the closest racing.
Le Mans has always been as much about beating the circuit as beating the competition. Toyota could have fallen at any number of hurdles but they didn't - they won against the circuit. And they won against all the setbacks in the past too.
They deserved this win, and it is a win. I'm disappointed to see so-called "piston heads" saying otherwise.
A thoroughly deserved victory. They could have cocked it up. But they didn’t. And for that Toyota should be praised & not slagged off.
As for Alonso. I never used to like him however over the years I have warmed to him & I believe that he thoroughly desereved the win. He didn’t go there to be a ‘bit part’ he went to be a fully integrated team member.
And he was quick. His night stint was superb.
And he won Le Mans. And that is what he wanted to do.
Only the Indy 500 now....
mollytherocker said:
It will be interesting if Alonso winning creates more general media interest for Le Mans. Watching the BBC news now!
I think it drives more interest in motorsport. I hadn't watched Indy for 15 years but did last year. I watched bits of Le Mans in previous years but this is most I have watched.I think Alonso is one of the most complete racers of the last 25 years. I think he has made bad decisions and his politics are pretty poor from what I have observed as an outsider, but that should not take away from what is a very brave decision to do WEC and F1 - a hectic schedule - something that I haven't seen any other driver step up to.
Well I'm off. I'm going to find a thread on macramé. I know nothing about it, don't enjoy it, and it bemuses me why people like it. I'll put my point of view, and more than once. That'll show them. I'll tell them to get knotted - I bet it will be the first time they've heard the joke. I feel certain that I will feel pretty pleased with myself.
Vaud said:
mollytherocker said:
It will be interesting if Alonso winning creates more general media interest for Le Mans. Watching the BBC news now!
I think it drives more interest in motorsport. I hadn't watched Indy for 15 years but did last year. I watched bits of Le Mans in previous years but this is most I have watched.I think Alonso is one of the most complete racers of the last 25 years. I think he has made bad decisions and his politics are pretty poor from what I have observed as an outsider, but that should not take away from what is a very brave decision to do WEC and F1 - a hectic schedule - something that I haven't seen any other driver step up to.
Derek Smith said:
Well I'm off. I'm going to find a thread on macramé. I know nothing about it, don't enjoy it, and it bemuses me why people like it. I'll put my point of view, and more than once. That'll show them. I'll tell them to get knotted - I bet it will be the first time they've heard the joke. I feel certain that I will feel pretty pleased with myself.
Make sure you state you have 75 years of experience and that it used to be way better than this.mollytherocker said:
Derek Smith said:
Well I'm off. I'm going to find a thread on macramé. I know nothing about it, don't enjoy it, and it bemuses me why people like it. I'll put my point of view, and more than once. That'll show them. I'll tell them to get knotted - I bet it will be the first time they've heard the joke. I feel certain that I will feel pretty pleased with myself.
Make sure you state you have 75 years of experience and that it used to be way better than this.
Pericoloso said:
I enjoyed what I saw of it too,on Quest,although Jenny in the pits had a few driver interviews couldn't hear a thing.
I just hope Jenson signs up again,seeing as he got within an hour of finishing and the car was hobbled after losing 50 odd laps early on.
Button has signed for the season, same as Alonso, so 'should' compete right around to and including the 2019 edition.I just hope Jenson signs up again,seeing as he got within an hour of finishing and the car was hobbled after losing 50 odd laps early on.
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