Porsche 935...

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ellroy

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Friday 28th September
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Anyone think that this may be the base for a return to La Sarthe in 20/21 for the brand?

Next year is the 40th anniversary of the original winning and then the following season the rules change to the 'Hypercar' set. Part of which, if i recall correctly, is about aesthetics and the new car certainly ticks that box.

DS240

2,618 posts

154 months

Friday 28th September
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They haven’t left... still factory in GT.

But yes, I really want to see this type of thing at Le Mans.

I’d love to see the return of GT1 and would be happy to see them battling for out right wins. As much as I’ve found the LMP 1 (audi’s, Peugeot’s, Porsche, Toyota etc) absolutely incredible to watch.

I think we’ve had a goldern era at Le Mans since 2003-2017). 2018 Toyota win nice, but not much of a battle. It clear this era is fading and they need something to get the manufacturers back.

//j17

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159 months

Friday 28th September
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I'm not convinced anything much will come of all the hypercar talk. It's now getting late in 2018 and there's not a sniff of any actual forumula regulations from the ACO/FIA which doesn't give people much time to work out if they can/want to do it.

On top of that you how do you balance grandfathering in all the LMP1P cars that were new for 2018?

And then you have talk of Audi returning in 2022 to be in place for the 2024 zero emission regs that will replace the as yet unpublished hypercar regs...

And if the zero emission regs. DO come in for 2024 I think it's safe to assume older, non-zero emission cars will either be excluded or grandfathered in with restructions to give them a similar deficit to the top class as we currently have between LMP1 and LMP2.

Who exactly is going to throw cash out the window developing a brand new car that, without throwing yet more cash at it, will be obsolete after 2-4 years - and might not even have an advantage over the existing LMP1P cars durig that limited window?



Also the new 935 is rear engined, so probably going to be slower than the current, mid engined 911 RSR.

Edited by //j17 on Friday 28th September 14:11

wsn03

471 posts

37 months

Friday 28th September
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//j17 said:
I'm not convinced anything much will come of all the hypercar talk. It's now getting late in 2018 and there's not a sniff of any actual forumula regulations from the ACO/FIA which doesn't give people much time to work out if they can/want to do it.

On top of that you how do you balance grandfathering in all the LMP1P cars that were new for 2018?

And then you have talk of Audi returning in 2022 to be in place for the 2024 zero emission regs that will replace the as yet unpublished hypercar regs...

And if the zero emission regs. DO come in for 2024 I think it's safe to assume older, non-zero emission cars will either be excluded or grandfathered in with restructions to give them a similar deficit to the top class as we currently have between LMP1 and LMP2.

Who exactly is going to throw cash out the window developing a brand new car that, without throwing yet more cash at it, will be obsolete after 2-4 years - and might not even have an advantage over the existing LMP1P cars durig that limited window?



Also the new 935 is rear engined, so probably going to be slower than the current, mid engined 911 RSR.

Edited by //j17 on Friday 28th September 14:11
The ACO have always stated the rules will come out in November. Hopefully the amount of manufacturer involvement in formulating these rules will result in some healthy participation...I live in hope

//j17

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DS240

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Friday 28th September
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//j17 said:
I'm not convinced anything much will come of all the hypercar talk. It's now getting late in 2018 and there's not a sniff of any actual forumula regulations from the ACO/FIA which doesn't give people much time to work out if they can/want to do it.

On top of that you how do you balance grandfathering in all the LMP1P cars that were new for 2018?

And then you have talk of Audi returning in 2022 to be in place for the 2024 zero emission regs that will replace the as yet unpublished hypercar regs...

And if the zero emission regs. DO come in for 2024 I think it's safe to assume older, non-zero emission cars will either be excluded or grandfathered in with restructions to give them a similar deficit to the top class as we currently have between LMP1 and LMP2.

Who exactly is going to throw cash out the window developing a brand new car that, without throwing yet more cash at it, will be obsolete after 2-4 years - and might not even have an advantage over the existing LMP1P cars durig that limited window?



Also the new 935 is rear engined, so probably going to be slower than the current, mid engined 911 RSR.

Edited by //j17 on Friday 28th September 14:11
A zero emissions race car for the duration of the LM24 by 2024. It’s going to be an empty grid!

wsn03

471 posts

37 months

Sunday 30th September
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//j17 said:
Thats a great article, thanks for posting

wsn03

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//j17

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Monday 1st October
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DS240 said:
A zero emissions race car for the duration of the LM24 by 2024. It’s going to be an empty grid!
Not really as they are talking hydorgen rather than electric, and why the latest round of pit upgrades will both replace the current petrol supply to each garage but also add a hydrogen one.

Worst case they could go with burning the hydrogen in internal combustion engines, replacing some of the lost calorific value by removing some of the current MPG/intake restrictors but clearly the plan if for hydrogen fuel cells and to me taking something that's not quite ready for the mainstream and pushing it to the limits to get it ready is what Le Mans should be about.