A quiet campsite - we need a few more people

A quiet campsite - we need a few more people

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wsn03

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Monday 14th October
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Jim on the hill said:
wsn03 said:
UPDATE:

Ok I have sent out the latest information to everyone who expressed an interest - what is happening, what I need from you etc.
If I have missed anyone please let me know.

You now have my contact details and can keep posting questions on this thread.

I'll be confirming the inspection being ok (I hope) and the cost / how / when / who to pay in early to mid December.
Nothing received yet
Ok just sent (or re-sent), hopefully you get it. Cheers

wsn03

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Monday 14th October
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B'stard Child said:
My Group for Classic next year is up to 12 cars so far (likely to be 24 people - ie 2 people per tent) I'm expecting to end up with a group of 14- 16 cars
That's a big group, thank you for letting me know, I'll add it to the list

B'stard Child

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Tuesday 15th October
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wsn03 said:
B'stard Child said:
My Group for Classic next year is up to 12 cars so far (likely to be 24 people - ie 2 people per tent) I'm expecting to end up with a group of 14- 16 cars
That's a big group, thank you for letting me know, I'll add it to the list
I was a bit concerned regarding capacity for that many but I figured as it's for the Classic and it's not as well attended as the normal 24Hrs it would probably be OK??

If I need to cap the group please give me an idea on the number - you've been at the site several times - my criteria is a good sized pitch space (ie not tents on tents) most places have a pitch "dimension" but I can see not so much for this one.

If there is space for more and you don't have other takers for the Classic I can can increase the number of slots open to the group - that's your call

wsn03

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Tuesday 15th October
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B'stard Child said:
wsn03 said:
B'stard Child said:
My Group for Classic next year is up to 12 cars so far (likely to be 24 people - ie 2 people per tent) I'm expecting to end up with a group of 14- 16 cars
That's a big group, thank you for letting me know, I'll add it to the list
I was a bit concerned regarding capacity for that many but I figured as it's for the Classic and it's not as well attended as the normal 24Hrs it would probably be OK??

If I need to cap the group please give me an idea on the number - you've been at the site several times - my criteria is a good sized pitch space (ie not tents on tents) most places have a pitch "dimension" but I can see not so much for this one.

If there is space for more and you don't have other takers for the Classic I can can increase the number of slots open to the group - that's your call
You're the only person down for the classic, and as he has no booking system or anything in English I would guess he's as empty for the classic as he is the normal 24 Le Mans.

The 24hr Moto is probably slightly bigger in numbers than the classic, and he was empty, all the other sites were full.

I reckon you could comfortably get at least 30 - 40 tents in, parking without too much trouble for 20 cars...assuming the bottom car park is empty as it normally is, plenty can park along the lane.

If he had a ramp onto the grass cars could park on the grass next to the tents.

The limiting factor is the washrooms - how many toilets and how many showers. When my PH friend goes to check it out first week in December I'll let you know. Definitely ok for the number you've already put in, but if the facilities are plenty you can bring many more.

Hopefully my PH friend finds a way to viably sub-let it, with numbers like this it would be worth it, and he would run it properly / handle any issues.

We will know all in December.

B'stard Child

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Tuesday 15th October
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wsn03 said:
You're the only person down for the classic, and as he has no booking system or anything in English I would guess he's as empty for the classic as he is the normal 24 Le Mans.
OK so this could work quite well and I have some scope to go over on my numbers it's early days yet biggrin

wsn03 said:
I reckon you could comfortably get at least 30 - 40 tents in, parking without too much trouble for 20 cars...assuming the bottom car park is empty as it normally is, plenty can park along the lane.

If he had a ramp onto the grass cars could park on the grass next to the tents.
This would always be a car enthusiasts preference but first year probably livable

wsn03 said:
The limiting factor is the washrooms - how many toilets and how many showers. When my PH friend goes to check it out first week in December I'll let you know. Definitely ok for the number you've already put in, but if the facilities are plenty you can bring many more.

Hopefully my PH friend finds a way to viably sub-let it, with numbers like this it would be worth it, and he would run it properly / handle any issues.

We will know all in December.
The toilets/showers is the critical point - acceptable facilities and my group would be happy there - they are used to a basic std of what I call "transportable toilets" - the towable sort with split Male/Female 3 in each side for 500 people and warm Portaloo Showers so not the ultimate in luxury - just acceptable for a few days

stting in the woods and cold hosepipe shower and we need to find an alternative

if we said max 20 people, 10 cars, 10 pitches (2 people per tent) and 125 Euro per pitch then 1250 Euro in total?

wsn03

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Tuesday 15th October
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B'stard Child said:
wsn03 said:
You're the only person down for the classic, and as he has no booking system or anything in English I would guess he's as empty for the classic as he is the normal 24 Le Mans.
OK so this could work quite well and I have some scope to go over on my numbers it's early days yet biggrin

wsn03 said:
I reckon you could comfortably get at least 30 - 40 tents in, parking without too much trouble for 20 cars...assuming the bottom car park is empty as it normally is, plenty can park along the lane.

If he had a ramp onto the grass cars could park on the grass next to the tents.
This would always be a car enthusiasts preference but first year probably livable

wsn03 said:
The limiting factor is the washrooms - how many toilets and how many showers. When my PH friend goes to check it out first week in December I'll let you know. Definitely ok for the number you've already put in, but if the facilities are plenty you can bring many more.

Hopefully my PH friend finds a way to viably sub-let it, with numbers like this it would be worth it, and he would run it properly / handle any issues.

We will know all in December.
The toilets/showers is the critical point - acceptable facilities and my group would be happy there - they are used to a basic std of what I call "transportable toilets" - the towable sort with split Male/Female 3 in each side for 500 people and warm Portaloo Showers so not the ultimate in luxury - just acceptable for a few days

stting in the woods and cold hosepipe shower and we need to find an alternative

if we said max 20 people, 10 cars, 10 pitches (2 people per tent) and 125 Euro per pitch then 1250 Euro in total?
He did a makeshift ramp in 2018 for some French guys, you're only talking about 4-6 inches. I will tell my PH friend to ask him for some proper ramps - they could easily be made with 4 or 5 access points. It will make parking better.

Everything hinges on the facilities - our PH friend will advise in Dec when he's looked at them. I hope its not a hole in the ground and a bucket! This guy was able to show me the hosepipe, and how to use it, without so much as even a grin on his face this year. At least last year it had like a makeshift surround, this year nothing because the surround got destroyed by the wind! I remember the first time he showed me the makeshift surround with hosepipe shower I was thinking oh ffs...is this a f*ckin joke? I was properly p1ssed off, amazing how quickly I got over it after a couple of tins had been opened sat in all that space with a view of the forest and absolutely no d1ckheads with loud music though! But this guy is on a different planet, although to be fair to him the landscaping is very high standard, the place looks really good, so who knows? I'm quietly optimistic.

I'm definitely targetting 125 Euro, its more than 2018, and more than some other sites nearer etc I think....plus I've now got him lots of punters, I'm sure that's better than the 1 tent he had this year (besides my group).

Lets hope Dec brings decent feedback. I would also be happier if my PH friend takes over looking after it if he could make it work - issues like ramps etc could be sorted easily as he is local some of the year. We shall see.

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wsn03

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Sunday 1st December
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The site visit did not go well.
Im very sad to report this site does not look like it will have proper facilities in place.

Im hugely disappointed more by the dishonesty than anything else, we've been lied to.

Trying to give everyone a heads up to give you time to make alternative arrangements, thinking Im probably going to consider the same.

wsn03

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Further update, site owner has contacted my friend in France with promises of "a" shower in April.

I suggest I'll stay there in June, see if its any good, then I'll advise its suitability for 2021. I cannot risk trusting things to be satisfactory for 2020, based on the past and the present.

I wish I could find as good a location for what we need, but including the peace and quiet element I simply can't, even if I have to dig a hole in the woods!

B'stard Child

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194 months

wsn03 said:
Further update, site owner has contacted my friend in France with promises of "a" shower in April.
April is always the month for showers hehe

On a serious note I really do wonder why he can’t see the benefit of putting some decent facilities in, actually maybe I do - is he flying under the radar “planning”, “land usage” or “tax” wise and hence the promises never materialise

Shame really - Thanks for all your efforts but I’ll have to start looking elsewhere for the 2020 classic





wsn03

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852 posts

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Tuesday
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B'stard Child said:
wsn03 said:
Further update, site owner has contacted my friend in France with promises of "a" shower in April.
April is always the month for showers hehe

On a serious note I really do wonder why he can’t see the benefit of putting some decent facilities in, actually maybe I do - is he flying under the radar “planning”, “land usage” or “tax” wise and hence the promises never materialise

Shame really - Thanks for all your efforts but I’ll have to start looking elsewhere for the 2020 classic
Oh ffs...that's probably what he meant by a shower in April laugh

I do suspect you are right regarding planning, land usage, tax! Ha, nothing would surprise me.
Real waste of an opportunity though, the place could be a little gold mine.

I wish I could find somewhere that suited our itinerary better, but for what we personally do its the best we can find, especially because of the location. But this year we could answer the question - do bears st i the woods? We don't know, but humans do at this campsite! Not good. That said you get satisfyingly used to it after a while laugh

Makes you really appreciate the hotel on the way home mind....