2021 - Don't get too excited

2021 - Don't get too excited

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Cass63

271 posts

119 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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eps said:
You only need to join the ACO if you want seats in Tribune 17 (Durand) or 18 (ACO) (i.e. the ACO ones, that are linked together)
What about a camping pitch, I though you needed to be a member to get a pitch at an official site.

eps

6,297 posts

269 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Cass63 said:
eps said:
You only need to join the ACO if you want seats in Tribune 17 (Durand) or 18 (ACO) (i.e. the ACO ones, that are linked together)
What about a camping pitch, I though you needed to be a member to get a pitch at an official site.
Don't think so. There is a reduced price for ACO members, for Camping, but they are available for non-members and members alike.

Koen_Chevy

16 posts

33 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Cass63 said:
What about a camping pitch, I though you needed to be a member to get a pitch at an official site.
I am not a member, I have camp site tickets.

Cass63

271 posts

119 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Brilliant, see you there.

a.christie

262 posts

276 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Seems like Les Frogs or more like the ACO have found an answer to Covid.
Reduce the membership renewal amount ,add this ,add that at extra cost . Chuck members and non members and locals all in together and voila!
The more Euros you donate , the greater the chance of infection. Or am I missing something?

cn7k7

213 posts

144 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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a.christie said:
Seems like Les Frogs or more like the ACO have found an answer to Covid.
Reduce the membership renewal amount ,add this ,add that at extra cost . Chuck members and non members and locals all in together and voila!
The more Euros you donate , the greater the chance of infection. Or am I missing something?
My guess is they have reduced membership fees to encourage non-attenders to remain members and bring money in.

Re throwing members, non-members and locals together.....wasn’t it always thus.

I don’t see how and increase in Euros spent equates to transmission....one has a choice to go, or not, and in doing so mitigate your risk how best you feel you can. At least we can attend and live a little. One thing is for sure, corona virus will not be going away and any rush and as such I am more than happy to start living with it.

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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The change to ACO membership packages came pre-COVID.

lowdrag

12,892 posts

213 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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It is reported today that 92% of all new cases in the Sarthe are of the South African Delta variety.

Galand

21 posts

45 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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lowdrag said:
It is reported today that 92% of all new cases in the Sarthe are of the South African Delta variety.
I suspect you've got your variants in a twist...

South African is the Beta variant and the Delta variant is the variant originally known as the Indian variant. I believe it's the Delta variant that's dominant in the department, not the South African Beta variant. From a British perspective, that's a good thing, as it's the Beta variant that's sending our government into a blind panic.

lowdrag

12,892 posts

213 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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And here is someone who can still knows the Greek alphabet by heart! Please forgive this OF for his error. Yes, it is the Delta and not the Beta. We have the Gamma and Lambda, but what has happened to Epsilon Zeta Eta and Theta Iota Kappa before Lambda?

Galand

21 posts

45 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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Haha no, just someone who's massively hoping to be able to go to the race this year and knows that 92% Beta would probably put the race huis clos! wink

cn7k7

213 posts

144 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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I gather that 96% of those infected have not had a jab

chrisring

204 posts

145 months

Saturday 24th July 2021
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a double jab is doing a pretty good job against Delta.
Beta os a different story and I don't think the data is in yet

Galand

21 posts

45 months

Sunday 25th July 2021
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I believe quite high efficacy of the vaccines against the Beta variant is now being reported (a Canadian study), so the panic over the variant is easing. I understand the biggest concern was that a person could contract the Delta and Beta variants at the same time leading to a new mutation which was highly transmissible and vaccine tolerant.

Signs now are that France will move from Amber Plus to Amber in the next round of travel list updates, meaning no self isolation for fully vaccinated travellers on return to the UK, and with a potential three week travel window before any further changes, which would cover race weekend, there is now good reason for a little optimism.

But as the thread title says... don't get too excited! wink

OvalOwl

924 posts

131 months

Sunday 25th July 2021
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The other variants are deemed "of interest" rather than "concern"

Epsilon was first identified in California
Eta in the UK/Nigeria
Iota in New York
Kappa in India

Zeta seems to have been removed from the "of interest" list in the USA, indeed there all other variants seem to be out-competed by the Delta variant which is the cause of the third wave here in Europe.

Chrisgr31

13,478 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th July 2021
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Output Flange said:
The change to ACO membership packages came pre-COVID.

It did but it seems to be stunning poor value now

Great Dane

Original Poster:

2,723 posts

166 months

lowdrag

12,892 posts

213 months

Sunday 25th July 2021
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Completely off topic I know but I wonder just how many 12-yr olds take exams like this today?




sahajesh

365 posts

153 months

Sunday 25th July 2021
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lowdrag said:
Completely off topic I know but I wonder just how many 12-yr olds take exams like this today?



Only Rees-Mogg’s kids.

ewand

775 posts

214 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Jim on the hill said:
LM240 said:
eps said:
Not sure - I just clicked on the 'refund now' button in the email.

As per usual they seem to struggle with anything digital.
I did the online refund request and sent an email with details to confirm I wanted a refund. This was acknowledged as received and will be processed soon.

Not sure why or whether it should have changed from the ‘automatic’ process first published.
I did the same and only realised yesterday it's been a couple of weeks and no monies have come back to me yet.
I'm still trying to understand what (if any) logic is happening with refunds. First it was "do nothing, and if you haven't used your credit note, you'll get a refund".

Meanwhile, I got a letter from the ACO asking me to confirm by post if I wanted to take tickets or get a refund; there was a URL in it to locate the order, and the URL is a dead link...

Then it was - apply for a refund here - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScpMKO-QX... There's nowhere on that form to say how you want the refund to arrive - I filled it in a month ago but heard nothing.

Logging into the my account site - https://account.lemans.org/en/profile/infos - has no "my tickets" or anything, but clicking on through as if I want to buy more tickets eventually leads to https://ticket.lemans.org/en/my-commands, which shows my previous orders.

...but doesn't include any of the 2020/21 race tickets or the credit note... AArgh! How can the ACO make such a meal of this kind of process? I know, I know, we shouldn't be surprised but still...

In the end I've just emailed them all the same details as the Google Form, but also included an IBAN - surely they should just refund the tickets to the credit card that bought them? or is that asking too much - and we'll see where that goes...

Edited by ewand on Monday 26th July 10:01