"Mini" Le Mans 2003 - November 2nd

"Mini" Le Mans 2003 - November 2nd

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beast

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368 posts

284 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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If you can't wait a whole year

ACO have a 4hr race over weekend Nov 1st/2nd this yr with some automatic pre-qualification for next yrs 24.

...there may well be some interesting UK entries - quite nice Indian summer time to re-visit your favourite track ?

jvaughan

6,025 posts

283 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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beast said:
If you can't wait a whole year

ACO have a 4hr race over weekend Nov 1st/2nd this yr with some automatic pre-qualification for next yrs 24.

...there may well be some interesting UK entries - quite nice Indian summer time to re-visit your favourite track ?

Might be up for this one.. get a weekend return on the ferry, sleep in the car

hansgerd

1,274 posts

284 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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Do you have some more info about this ? Is there something on the web ?

littlegearl

3,139 posts

257 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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hansgerd said:
Do you have some more info about this ? Is there something on the web ?


it was decided at le mans but details are pretty sketchy at the moment

basically it will be called the "Le Mans Endurance Series" this year will be the first race as a prelude to next years four races at Spa, Nurburgring, Silverstone and Monza...

the race is open for the same cars as Le Mans and has been set up so smaller european teams can compete in a high profile series (without going to america) and get a selection for le mans, rather than the odd-ball entries you often see (witness: Norma, XL Ferrari, no Morgan - though that was their fault!)

if you want a "second le mans" this is the only year it'll be running in france (on the buggati circuit only) so head down now!!!

...well, not now obviously, you've just come back!

reealfast

42 posts

251 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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Ill be going missed (regretably) LeMans this year so will be up for going to this one!
Get a weekend ferry pass, jobs a good un!

DustyC

12,820 posts

254 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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Sounds like it could be a better PistonHeads gathering the real "24 heure du mans" was.
I have asked Ted to put it in the calendar.

Mungo and Co, You up for a drive down to this one? Im gonna have a chat to some of my lot and see if they are interested.

Anyone got a large heated beer tent?

ginettag27

6,297 posts

269 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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Also quite tempted by this, but why not stay in one of the hotels?? We usually stay in one for the PreQual weekend.

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DustyC

12,820 posts

254 months

Friday 20th June 2003
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ginettag27 said:
Also quite tempted by this, but why not stay in one of the hotels?? We usually stay in one for the PreQual weekend.

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Even better idea!
Could we recreate the Square without the Thunderbirds knowing?

beast

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368 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Sorry, been negelectful - here is some info. There are "lots" of things implied within here that could be dramatic for the future of European sportscar racing. Suspect that hotel availability will be much more prevalent (and desirable in Nov).

Le Mans Endurance Series

1. The end of season race will be on the Bugatti Circuit on November 2 (not in October, as initially announced by the ACO, in their newsletter), with 48 cars permitted to start (over a maximum of six hours duration).

2. As expected, four major races will take place next year: discussions are under way with Monza, the Nurburgring, Silverstone and Spa.

3. The 2004 calendar will be known in September.

4. Le Mans Endurance Series is a working title – more in September.

5. 12 cars (three from each class) will receive automatic entries for the 2004 Le Mans 24 Hours, based on the results of the November 2 race.

6. For 2005, 24 Hours entries will be allocated thus: eight from the 2004 ALMS, eight from Le Mans, eight from the new series of four races and four from the FIA GT Championship.

7. The ‘Le Mans Endurance Series’ will be organised by the ACO and Stephane Ratel’s SRO company, but with the ACO providing the chairman and playing the leading role.

8. Teams gaining automatic entries for Le Mans (28, more than half the field) will have their places confirmed six to eight months before the race.

hansgerd

1,274 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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That looks very much like the final nail in the cofin of the FIA SCC. LM Endurance Series (LMES)... hopefully a bit more successfull than the former ELMS. Please, not another nightmare on ELMS street.

>> Edited by hansgerd on Wednesday 2nd July 10:03

Danster

221 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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According to DSC this morning it's moved to the 9th November. Gonna try to make it, just have to dig out the thermals first

beast

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368 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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you're right - back to 9th now.

will that tie in with Beau-jolly new-vo run ?

jvaughan

6,025 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Ahh its 3 days after my Birthday ... Invites will be for a Party at Le Mans then.

Danster

221 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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And 3 days before mine!

jvaughan

6,025 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Danster said:
And 3 days before mine!

In that case .... We should eat, drink and be merry at Le Mans.






Danster

221 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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jvaughan said:
In that case .... We should eat, drink and be merry at Le Mans


Nothing new there then! Sounds like a plan

Only 4 months to go, do you reckon we'll be able to get tickets in time?!? Judging by the ACO's track record....

Don't forget that there's a Sportscar race at Donnington on the 9th of August as well

jvaughan

6,025 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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already made enquiries about tickets .. none of the uk agencies know anything about it yet

GrahamG

1,091 posts

267 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Only it won't be on November 2nd!

Thumper

171 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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That's right . . . they're very generously giving the PLM guys an extra seven days to get back home. I recall Hugh Chamberlain muttering about this at Le Mans when the event was first announced, suggesting that he couldn't afford to do both if they were only a fortnight apart. The extra week may mean more entrants in each race, although the Le Mans race already looks likely to be oversubscribed. Sounds like the perfect recipe for more Gallic tact and diplomacy.

ginettag27

6,297 posts

269 months

Thursday 3rd July 2003
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Does anyone know if they'll be having support races for this event, or who I can contact about the finer details of it? tia

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