Nissan GTR help
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You will undoubtedly lose a lot more money buying new than used. I sold my 2009 GTR for £40k over 3 years ago. Used values have therefore firmed up over the last 3 years and show no signs of moving south. If the market stays strong you could expect to lose comfortably less than £10k over 3 years on a used one. Yes running costs are likely to be greater but not massively so.
Best bet is to talk to Ian Litchfield. He gets a steady flow of good used ones and he won't sell anything that's not right. You can also buy a warranty from him at reasonable cost for peace of mind. If you've never owned a gtr before you won't notice a lot of difference in the ownership experience of used v new.
Best bet is to talk to Ian Litchfield. He gets a steady flow of good used ones and he won't sell anything that's not right. You can also buy a warranty from him at reasonable cost for peace of mind. If you've never owned a gtr before you won't notice a lot of difference in the ownership experience of used v new.
rog007 said:
jonah35 said:
...no warranty and potential for big big bills.
If you're buying privately (after asking the seller to put it through a fresh MOT and you having put it through a specialist inspection), you can purchase a third party warranty. Might even be worth checking Nisssn if they'd warranty it (obviously then having to meet their T&Cs via an inspection/service).If buying from a dealer, you are covered by the 'Sale of Goods' Act. And if you pay by credit card, you get additional protection there too.
Good luck!
I thought about warrantying the 2010 one but I bet that would be £150pm so then it makes the 2017 one look even better value
I reckon (mileage dependent) you're way underestimating the consumables it'll need. If you drive it properly you could easily get through a set of rears within a year, if you're heavy on the brakes and do track days pads will need changing, you may well even need to change the discs within 3 years/30k - again depending on what you're using it for. Find out how much these things are and budget for them over the 3 years, new or used.
Can you buy one through an approved used scheme from a Nissan MD? That way it will have had an inspection and a year's warranty. You'll pay a premium but nowhere near that of a new car. You can probably also extend the warranty after the year is up for a yearly fee - mine is around £2k on the Aston. Or you could stick the money away as a bork fund and self insure - if it's reliable you'll still have that money left in addition to what you sell the car on for at the end.
Can you buy one through an approved used scheme from a Nissan MD? That way it will have had an inspection and a year's warranty. You'll pay a premium but nowhere near that of a new car. You can probably also extend the warranty after the year is up for a yearly fee - mine is around £2k on the Aston. Or you could stick the money away as a bork fund and self insure - if it's reliable you'll still have that money left in addition to what you sell the car on for at the end.
Shrimpvende said:
I reckon (mileage dependent) you're way underestimating the consumables it'll need. If you drive it properly you could easily get through a set of rears within a year, if you're heavy on the brakes and do track days pads will need changing, you may well even need to change the discs within 3 years/30k - again depending on what you're using it for. Find out how much these things are and budget for them over the 3 years, new or used.
Can you buy one through an approved used scheme from a Nissan MD? That way it will have had an inspection and a year's warranty. You'll pay a premium but nowhere near that of a new car. You can probably also extend the warranty after the year is up for a yearly fee - mine is around £2k on the Aston. Or you could stick the money away as a bork fund and self insure - if it's reliable you'll still have that money left in addition to what you sell the car on for at the end.
Tyres in a year? Try six months Can you buy one through an approved used scheme from a Nissan MD? That way it will have had an inspection and a year's warranty. You'll pay a premium but nowhere near that of a new car. You can probably also extend the warranty after the year is up for a yearly fee - mine is around £2k on the Aston. Or you could stick the money away as a bork fund and self insure - if it's reliable you'll still have that money left in addition to what you sell the car on for at the end.
3 years for discs sounds just about right but definitely not if you've done proper 30k miles. Pads definitely won't last 3 years/30k.If miles are high (>1k/month) probably looking at a service every 6 months.
You would have to be clinically insane to take the 2017 GTR deal. Total cost over 2 years amounts to £35-40k for an £80-90k car. That 40-50% cost ratio is double the 20-25% ratio for a typically "good" lease deal (yes, know it is PCP).
The "old" 2010 car will prolly cost £10-15k at most over 2 years. And a quick £1-3k remap will make it pretty much as fast as the 2017 model.
As others have said, get a 2011 or later model, to save on annual servicing costs.
The "old" 2010 car will prolly cost £10-15k at most over 2 years. And a quick £1-3k remap will make it pretty much as fast as the 2017 model.
As others have said, get a 2011 or later model, to save on annual servicing costs.
When I think of £750/month, I just hear a voice in my head saying £25/day. Go away for a long w/end without the car and I've paid £100 to hire a car and not use it. I wouldn't be able to sleep nights if I didn't drive it that day, not because I can't afford it, but because of the pure wastage.
jonah35 said:
Re the £750pm my man maths says the used one may need say £1k pa in services, £2k on bits and so on so call the used one £300pm or so in upkeep then the difference between new and old would be say £450pm which seems more palatable.
But yes this is my quandary.
But you wouldnt own the 2017 one at the end.Buy the £40k one, have some fun for a few years, maybe throw what £5k or so into maintenance and wear and tear, and that same car will still be worth £35-40k after a few years. They hold their money well, factBut yes this is my quandary.
ChocolateFrog said:
No new tyres needed in the first 3 years of ownership! What's the point in owning/renting a car like this if you're either a) not going to use it or b) drive everywhere at 1200rpm/40mph.
It be expecting 4 new tyres at least once a year, I doubt you get more than 6-8k out of a set.
This, the rear tyres on my S2000 barely last 5K miles.It be expecting 4 new tyres at least once a year, I doubt you get more than 6-8k out of a set.
A GTR will shred its tyres in no time...
My wife had a 2013 GTR as her daily - it wasn't driven hard, 30 odd mile round trip commute most days.
Servicing is £1k a year - there's always a bit extra even if it's nothing major!
Tyres last 10k Miles tops / 12 months without going on track and driving pretty conservatively which is £1,200 easily.
Road tax is £500 a year. Petrol is c.20 mpg driven fairly gently - all super unleaded.
We're very easy on brakes but I think they're pretty expensive - depends on how you drive obviously!
So that's your effective running cost for a car covered under warranty - base cost of £2,700 a year plus brakes and tracker subs. Nissan extended warranty is about £3,000 a year - never bothered. Oh and windscreen wipers are about £200 each!!
To be honest not much that's really expensive goes wrong with them, it's generally just expensive consumables.
In short I'd buy a 2013MY car so you get the 550bhp engine but depreciation isn't too steep at that point. It will soon be winter so wait a few months and they'll be a lot more flexible on price for used ones!
In summary they don't depreciate much after the first year or two but the maintenance costs are consummate with the performance - can't be avoided even with a new one that's under warranty, so in short go used but perhaps slightly newer!
Servicing is £1k a year - there's always a bit extra even if it's nothing major!
Tyres last 10k Miles tops / 12 months without going on track and driving pretty conservatively which is £1,200 easily.
Road tax is £500 a year. Petrol is c.20 mpg driven fairly gently - all super unleaded.
We're very easy on brakes but I think they're pretty expensive - depends on how you drive obviously!
So that's your effective running cost for a car covered under warranty - base cost of £2,700 a year plus brakes and tracker subs. Nissan extended warranty is about £3,000 a year - never bothered. Oh and windscreen wipers are about £200 each!!
To be honest not much that's really expensive goes wrong with them, it's generally just expensive consumables.
In short I'd buy a 2013MY car so you get the 550bhp engine but depreciation isn't too steep at that point. It will soon be winter so wait a few months and they'll be a lot more flexible on price for used ones!
In summary they don't depreciate much after the first year or two but the maintenance costs are consummate with the performance - can't be avoided even with a new one that's under warranty, so in short go used but perhaps slightly newer!
TwigtheWonderkid said:
When I think of £750/month, I just hear a voice in my head saying £25/day. Go away for a long w/end without the car and I've paid £100 to hire a car and not use it. I wouldn't be able to sleep nights if I didn't drive it that day, not because I can't afford it, but because of the pure wastage.
But you could say the very same about a car (any car!) depreciating....northwest monkey said:
ELothian said:
Oh and windscreen wipers are about £200 each!!
Why?
GroundEffect said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
When I think of £750/month, I just hear a voice in my head saying £25/day. Go away for a long w/end without the car and I've paid £100 to hire a car and not use it. I wouldn't be able to sleep nights if I didn't drive it that day, not because I can't afford it, but because of the pure wastage.
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